In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
THE Alex Allen Takes Over II: The Alexing!
What if your vasectomy came with a "nutsack switch" or your favorite candy could change Hollywood forever? Join us as our guest, Alex Allen, adds their own twist to the wild tapestry of life's peculiarities. We reminisce about our firefighting days, ponder the mysteries of cats in trees, and unravel the tangled web of fad diets like keto and Atkins, all with a healthy dose of humor and curiosity. Between penis piercings and the quirky challenges first responders face, there's never a dull moment in our exploration of life's oddball themes.
Self-expression takes center stage as we swap stories of our artistic trials—and errors—with nail painting and beard braiding. We also tackle the world of nostalgic gaming, sharing our misadventures with fried feta and our gaming gear fantasies. As we laugh over the infamous David bars from TikTok and our game choices like Baldur's Gate 3 and The Sims, we reveal the humor and excitement that comes with embracing our unique interests and unpolished skills.
We round off the episode with a candid chat about creating new habits, using the playful term "neuroplastizing" to highlight our attempts at self-improvement. With gaming challenges on hard mode as our metaphor for life's unexpected hurdles, we explore the colorful spectrum of personal preferences, including the quirks of substance use as a metaphor for life's varied approaches. Through humor and reflection, we challenge societal norms surrounding parenting, health expectations, and social media's influence, all while encouraging a journey towards individuality and informed choices.;
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What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of In Moderation, where we believe in eating, drinking, playing in moderation because you can't have too much of a good thing with your hosts, liam and Rob, and your guest me, alex, aka the Alex Allen, as Dr Tommy Martin likes to say.
Speaker 2:Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah ah.
Speaker 3:I was not put in on this. I don't know what's going on. Just so you know. Alex, don't ask me, you keep doing your thing.
Speaker 1:No, Rob's just tied up in the back right now. It's fine. I'm just holding them hostage and I'm actually poking Oakley every hour to make her cry.
Speaker 3:It feels like something is doing that.
Speaker 1:William's just tortured.
Speaker 3:It's just, I don't get it. I don't understand children, I don't get them. All of that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was saying that your situation seems like great birth control.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You know what else is great birth control, a vasectomy which my wife won't let me get, and it's bullshit really oh, does she want more kids? Uh, maybe, and I'm like I feel, what about one of those?
Speaker 2:uh, little toggles that they can put in, so you can go on and off is that real?
Speaker 3:I don't think that's real the way he's saying it.
Speaker 1:It's making it sound like it's real. That doesn't sound real to me.
Speaker 3:It doesn't it's real, I'm calling bullshit they can put a little toggle in.
Speaker 2:Do you want that, though?
Speaker 3:on off on off, how, what happens when it's in my nutsack? That's my question, because like that's or that's a real choice, you know, like I get people have, like you know, horns and stuff and ear piercings, but like nutsats, nutsack switch is a is a people get piercings in their penis yeah, though, what's it called? Uh, prince, prince albert that's what it's called.
Speaker 1:That's what it's called the prince albert. It's like a specific type of like penis piercing I wonder, I feel like that would hurt so badly. I don't, I can't even.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's got to feel great. What are you talking about? Well, I've also heard from people who have it. Is that like urine just drips out too, like because you have holes in there and shit? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Which that doesn't sound like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that doesn't sound worth it. Like the payoff versus reward does not sound worth it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've never been a big piercing person to begin with. So when you're like, hey, why don't you start with your genitals, I'm like, hey, how about no?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't have any piercings anymore. I had to take them out when I was firefighting. So, you can put them back in when you're not on duty, but it doesn't make sense that you and scotty have in common right firefighting it is, we're both firefighter, emts. I did not get my head burned off, though. Did you, did he? Did you hear? His story on that. Yeah, I was like I would have no hair he probably told us.
Speaker 3:I'm sure he told it to us when he was on the podcast.
Speaker 1:I my everyone's joke was that I was like a white cloud, literally whenever I was on shift. Nothing bad happened and it was just it would just be like sunshine and rainbows. We would just move from station to station to cover people and I was like this is boring. So this is the horrible thing. Is you it's not like I like want bad things to happen to people?
Speaker 1:but like you want bad things to happen, I've said you're 100, alex it's more interesting when stuff happens, because otherwise you're just sitting there and literally you're just like they're working out watching tv, like you're just. You're just sitting around and you're like are the pyromaniacs?
Speaker 3:where are the old people falling over? I need? There was only like three.
Speaker 1:There was like three old elderly people who fell, who had like gashes on their head, and it was like okay, like we can just cover it, cause they just bleed more. And then we had like three fires in the time that I was there and I was like this is this is not enough for not a single one, unfortunately.
Speaker 3:Is that? How the fuck did that become like the joke? For like cat aren't like. Do cats really get stuck in trees? That I again bullshit.
Speaker 1:I don't think they get stuck in trees. I feel like people see them in the tree and then they get scared and they're like get my cat out of the tree and then it's like, yeah, your cat's not in any danger like it's a cat.
Speaker 3:Just it'll climb out. It's fine, just leave yeah it'll come down eventually people.
Speaker 1:So I don't know too much stuff people do get very alarmed over. Yeah, not the seed. I just saw another post about that and I was like, not the seed oils.
Speaker 3:We were we're finally getting over it. Don't't bring it back.
Speaker 1:That's how everything works. Everything always comes in cycles, oh, everything does. It's like keto. Isn't keto just redone, oh gosh.
Speaker 3:Was it Atkins?
Speaker 1:or something. Yeah, I think it was Atkins.
Speaker 3:Atkins was like low carb, but it wasn't as like strict.
Speaker 1:And I find the keto.
Speaker 3:So funny because keto is like what 90% fat.
Speaker 1:But people doing keto are eating tons of protein Like keto is not supposed to be a high protein diet as high of protein, yeah.
Speaker 3:But that's exactly what people make it and that's one of the reasons it works. Yeah, because you're suddenly not hungry anymore, because you're satiated as fuck, because you're eating a lot of protein and no more of the like refined carbs that you were eating before Magic. Oh my God, I'm so tired. Also, guys, can you fucking stop asking me about intermittent fasting? I'm tired of getting asked about that Holy shit.
Speaker 1:You mean intentional starving. You don't want to intentionally starve yourself.
Speaker 3:I'm so tired. It's a way to restrict calories, but I heard autophagy and it'll give me like laser eyes and shit. Like this guy who's selling me the supplements tell me how awesome it is, like what the um?
Speaker 2:just no stop. Scotty's success on social media is because he intermittent fasts.
Speaker 3:Intermittent fasting has the power to gain you millions of followers on social media if fucking cats could enter, and fast, they wouldn't get stuck in trees as much yeah, no, I think all the all the fad diets are literally just everything repackaged. It's not that, it's not that serious comes back around pretty much what's your favorite fad diet, alex?
Speaker 1:to do personally, or that like just favorite, like fun one you know like what's your fun favorite?
Speaker 3:I'll tell you mine's carnivore. It's what the cookie diet what is the cookie diet? The cookie diet is uh, you would eat these cookies and then you drink water with it and there was something in the cookies that would go and blow up real big and then you'd be very full.
Speaker 1:Wow, isn't that from like the 90s?
Speaker 3:that's way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's decades ago, but I was like that was a while ago.
Speaker 3:It'll come back. I was like that was a while ago.
Speaker 2:It'll come back. Oh, it for sure will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to bring it back. Wow, I haven't thought about that.
Speaker 3:I'll sell that before I sell Unicity. Fuck that shit. At least you get a cookie.
Speaker 1:I like the people on the cutting boards, the carnivore people on cutting boards.
Speaker 3:That one's fun to me creative with, like what's on the cutting board? Well, yeah, no, I like that it's carnivore. But then also, like I have avocado and I've got some. Yeah, I've got some apples and I've got I have things that aren't just meat like I have that's okay oh, here's my animal based pasta.
Speaker 1:That's a fucking squash bro and then they have their cheat days and I'm like, okay, you're like what's with the cheat day? And they're like I just want to indulge in the things that I enjoy. What a wild concept of just enjoying it in moderation.
Speaker 3:Fucking A man.
Speaker 1:Plug yeah For the podcast you're currently listening to.
Speaker 2:Plug. Don't listen to In Moderation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say those are my favorites. The cookie one's a good call, though that one I haven't heard in a while. What was the my favorite? Okay, this is workouts now. I love the like step class. You remember, like Jane Fonda, like the step class that she used to do, like that was my jam.
Speaker 3:Okay that, or biggest loser, where they just yell at people, where they just scream at them.
Speaker 1:The disappointment when people didn't lose weight on that show.
Speaker 3:Oh, you only lost five pounds this week. You fucking loser Get out of here.
Speaker 1:It's like God damn. I was like I would be mortified yeah, and there was always these sound effects that was just like jaws, but on steroids yeah, and there was, like, always these sound effects that was just like jaws, but on steroids.
Speaker 2:Any TV producers out there want to produce a proper version of a weight loss show, hit us up, that will get no views. I was supposed to say no views, but hey, no views.
Speaker 3:Hey TV producers, do you want to throw money into a furnace? Well, let's help people lose weight in a realistic way and we'll film it furnace.
Speaker 1:Well, let's help people lose weight in a realistic way and we'll film it. I literally was talking to my assistant coaches about this because I was like, yeah, I kind of want to like go through a deficit and like show people what it's like to do that, but also I know I'm not going to stick to it because I really don't fucking want to lose weight right now. And they're like well, you can talk about that. And I was like it's not sexy to be like hey, guys, I'm maintaining weight right now and this is how I live my life, that's it. Well, that's what the internet not always, but often wants, is they want to follow people through a journey of like bulking or cutting. You always have to be doing something. And I was like is it really that bad to just be like hey, I just work out and eat because it's fun?
Speaker 2:Either that or you need to be wearing a really revealing bikini like you mean like in a show or like just in general just in general, because like that's the guy people, guys on the internet either want a journey or just eye candy I am very proud of the fact that I do not hypersexualize myself and I have like a very strong male.
Speaker 1:I have a very respectful male following. I've never received a dick pic, ever in my life. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good I was like so that's. My friends say that all the time. They're like I'm shocked you've never gotten one. I was like everyone's really nice guys literally send me like very nice messages where they're like I respect you and I really appreciate everything you put out. Or it's very helpful, or it helps my body image and I'm like you're welcome.
Speaker 3:So I don't think everyone needs a bikini well, no, I'm just saying for views, though, like, have you seen? Like the like, the love shows. They're like, hey, what if we? Put behind the wall and cover them and I don't know fucking silver or some bullshit, like whatever you know, naked and afraid I oh well, naked, afraid that's. That's not even a dating show, that's just like we're. What if we, what if we put him on the wilderness and we stripped him butt, ass naked?
Speaker 3:it's literally just past the fucking like green light process. No one in that chain was like wait, are you fucking? You got to be joking right Like there's no way that.
Speaker 1:No, they were like this is a good idea. Yeah, what's the? What's the dating show where they, like you can't see anybody, but you interview?
Speaker 3:But like blind.
Speaker 1:Love, love is blind. Yeah, yeah, they're just, but clearly love is not blind.
Speaker 3:No. Like that's all that show has proven. I mean, it's just it gets more and more ridiculous. Next, I'm guessing, clowns. You got to dress up as clowns and then date. Ooh, I'd be on that.
Speaker 1:There was a. This is not clowns and this is not meant to reference it and it's no offense to people who choose to live this life. I have to get like my little pre-frame. There was a throuple show and people I know were on it. Like literally it was like a couple goes on and then there's a bunch of people who are single, who are trying to be part of this throuple.
Speaker 3:And there's a whole show on it Listen, listen.
Speaker 1:all I'm gonna say is, when you have a family, it starts to make more sense.
Speaker 3:Where you're like sister wives, brother husbands whatever the fuck you want, I don't care there's more people to help out with the baby.
Speaker 1:I knew it just makes.
Speaker 3:It just makes sense like oh, we didn't get time to clean two of us, oh, the third one did.
Speaker 1:There you go, it's all solved you know it's called a like a maid or like a house all sorts of shit, just like things get done more when there's more people.
Speaker 3:This is just, and this is damn near economics at this point, you know fucking. It just makes sense. That's all I'm saying I I that makes sense that tracks, but wouldn't validate that dirty more if there were more people no that's what I mean, yeah, sure like, but there's one more person but there's a lot more could be able to get cleaned chicken chicken's done. I'm just saying listen for any throuples out there. I get it, I understand it.
Speaker 1:That's all I get he's like we're hiring, I can get you can apply for liam's throuple on in moderationnet.
Speaker 3:That's on my fucking only fans.
Speaker 1:We'll just throw it up there what do you post, just like plants, on your only fans?
Speaker 2:well, you have to sign up to find out, alex he doesn't give you it for free, come on thought we were friends.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, you don't sexualize yourself. That's all I do to myself. Okay, deal with it. Oh shit, you don't sexualize yourself.
Speaker 1:That's all I do to myself, okay, deal with it Rob's, like I just braid my beard, that's it.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm a good braider.
Speaker 1:You're doing great.
Speaker 2:I'm doing great.
Speaker 3:I'm still learning to paint in the lines on my nails, though, liam, do you paint your nails? I have never done it because I'm not artist artistically inclined.
Speaker 1:Let me put it that way. It sounds similar to rob where he doesn't paint in the lines I would just every.
Speaker 3:Anything I do is like a fucking mess. People see the recipe reviews I did I. I'm holding a fucking bag of ice right now because I burnt the shit out of my hand trying to fry feta. Like you think I'm gonna be able to paint my nails?
Speaker 1:the fuck you tried to fry it like on your stove yeah, what do you not understand about that alice?
Speaker 3:because you can air fry it no, you had to put it in oil and I put in oil. I fucking blistered up my goddamn finger, so I'm just holding a bag of ice now. My life is amazing. I it's just so great and we all aspire to be you. You want me to fucking paint my nails?
Speaker 1:get out could be bonding time with you and your wife.
Speaker 3:You know just, she paints you the time we guys just fucking take care.
Speaker 2:Take care of the liam the changing a diaper with one hand as the wife does the nails in the other yeah, and then the no.
Speaker 1:The thruple can take care of the baby, then he can get his nails painted there we go.
Speaker 3:Have you tried the David bars, have you guys?
Speaker 1:how did you get your hands on them? Aren't they really hard to get?
Speaker 3:so there's a thing called tick tock shop, and you go on it.
Speaker 1:oh, they're on're on TikTok shop and you say I want and they send it to you in like a few days Like they're fucking getting on Amazon territory.
Speaker 3:This shows up in like three, four days.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised. Okay, I'm going to order it. I have not tried it yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you get four of them.
Speaker 1:Do you like them?
Speaker 3:They are actually pretty good, like they are surprisingly good for.
Speaker 1:Aren't the macros insane?
Speaker 3:For having 28 grams of protein and 150 calories. What, which is crazy, that's like, can't have it seen. That's because they use EPG, modified plant fat, which is not really absorbable. Like it cuts down the absorption by like 90%, so you're not getting any calories from well. You get two grams of fat. There's only two grams of fat in these and it definitely doesn't taste like that, because normally two grams of fat shit would be dry as a brick.
Speaker 3:I was about to say You'd be like, yeah, that would not be fun, but they figured this shit out, man.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just ordered some.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just get the four, Because the pack of 12 is $40 for a 12-pack.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God Wait. This sample pack is one of each.
Speaker 3:That's $16 for one of each $16 for four of them. That's insane.
Speaker 1:That's not worth the Mackeys respectfully.
Speaker 3:It's good, but is it that good?
Speaker 1:Because what that's? $4 a bar.
Speaker 3:Do you have fucking Bobby money?
Speaker 2:That's Canadian prices right there, yeah, well, imagine the us dollars and canadian dollars.
Speaker 1:So wait, do you think it's worth it?
Speaker 3:I think it's worth it to try. Just to try them for the four pack, like yeah, it's 16 bucks, but it's like interesting and the different. You know they get one of each flavor and the smell out of it. You smell this, it they. They did not hold back on that scent like it's like you go to fucking like Yankee Candle shit. Like you open up you're like oh my God, that is a strong smell.
Speaker 1:But they also look tiny and like when you're holding them. It's average.
Speaker 3:This is this is an average size bar right here.
Speaker 1:You know that looks a little on the smaller side. Where are?
Speaker 3:you measuring from alex.
Speaker 2:Look at this, I'm measuring, I'm gonna be honest, that's kind of small up here in canada like there you go big.
Speaker 3:This, this is a, this is a, perfectly the fact that you're holding it up against your mouth is a really great like way to determine that looks a little small we have been distorted by social media in what is so average okay it's on the small side wouldn't be satisfying.
Speaker 1:Shit that could just go down in one, that could just go down in one big bite. I like how I'm like. I never hypose, hyposexualized myself. I was just thinking that but meanwhile I'll make dick jokes all day long fuck and this is why you need to come stream with us. I'm going to. I got my computers. I'm very proud of myself.
Speaker 3:I spent $2,000 on today. I bought fancy. I'm very proud of myself. Alone she's trying.
Speaker 1:I spent $2,000 today, oh really I bought, I bought fancy.
Speaker 3:She went all in. Yeah, is that for the monitor as well, or is that just straight?
Speaker 1:It was for everything. Okay, okay, so it was for a screen and a monitor, and I spent like 45 minutes with the best buy guy and I felt like an asshole because he was like so what games are you gonna be playing? And I was like I don't know. My friends just told me to get one and he was like what?
Speaker 1:And I was like they said Baldur's Gate three, and he was like that's a big game. And I was like is it really? They told me they were going to give me a sword. I was like, oh, I got this. And I was like maybe like Sims, and he was like that's not a big game. I was like oh so you're hitting both ends of the spectrum there. Sims was a big deal to me, yeah. That's what I grew up with. Yeah, that's what I grew up with. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Sims is like Whenever I broke up with somebody's what I grew up with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whenever I broke up with somebody, you just make them, make them in the game and you kill them yeah, no ladders yeah it's like we're talking about like player base.
Speaker 3:I think that's like a lot more females we're into like sims, like sims, was that's fair? Yeah I accept that that had a really strong base man it did.
Speaker 1:For sure, I played runescape growing up, is that it?
Speaker 3:fucking runescape bro. Like the gen c years listen to this are like what the fuck are you guys talking about?
Speaker 1:runescape was.
Speaker 2:I think you can still I think it's still around like I think you can still play it yeah yeah a lot of those old games are actually are still around, whether officially or neopet oh my god pets.
Speaker 3:I love neopets. That was. I thought that was the coolest shit when I was like eight, nine years old I would always play neopet and then that penguin game I don't know the penguin.
Speaker 1:Oh, you guys didn't play the penguin game. Okay, I'm gonna see if I can find that. But yeah, neopet was my shit. I think I still have a Neopet. I have the same email.
Speaker 3:No, are they still? I know that game is still around and people still play that. Let's turn this episode into like we all play Neopets. All right, neopets.
Speaker 1:Oh, Club Penguin.
Speaker 2:It sounds familiar, I was.
Speaker 1:You get to like dress up your penguin.
Speaker 3:Bro, they're on their 25th anniversary, as they should be.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. We just all get our Neopets back.
Speaker 3:I haven't fed them in 18 years.
Speaker 1:Like all right, we're starting off a fresh slate here, but yeah, I'll start twitching with you guys Starting Twitching.
Speaker 2:I like that. I love it Is that not I was explaining.
Speaker 1:We did like a client call yesterday with like all of our clients and we were talking about basically like rewiring your brain through like habits and things, and I was like, basically, you're like neuroplasticizing and I was like that's not a real word, but that's what I'm going to call it. I'm like all my clients are like that's what I'm going to call it. Whenever I'm doing something that's a new habit is I'm neuroplastizing and I'm like there you go.
Speaker 3:I said like photosynthesizing once and people are like no, and I'm like listen, that's fucking fun. All right, I'm still saying people know what you mean. Yeah, exactly that's what's. And what is language, if not to get across what you mean, like I like those. I've been doing those reviews where, like that one, uh, andy, she's great. She just says like one word for things like good shake, tasty, like I love that. Why say big word when little word do trick?
Speaker 1:this is, this is traumatizing me from under moderation. We do a whole episode.
Speaker 3:So Rob how go Go.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's two syllables.
Speaker 3:Damn it. Too many words, you already fucking failed.
Speaker 1:You know good, you know good, I play game, I win game. But yes, I'll Twitch with y'all starting tomorrow.
Speaker 3:Alex, no sexualized, but dick joke okay.
Speaker 1:Twitch is different.
Speaker 2:Everybody come watch Alex stab us in the back with a giant flaming sword On gaming in moderation.
Speaker 1:I'm willing to bet that I'm way better at Mike on video games Way better at Mike. Way better than Mike. Yeah, I don't know how well Adam and Scotty play. Better at Mike Way better than Mike. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how well Adam and Scotty play, but I bet I'm better than Adam Mike.
Speaker 2:Adam. When he started he picked me up and spiked me like a football. He stabbed me in the back three times. He blew us all up. He blew us all up yeah, got us into a loop with a, an enemy that kept bugging, and so we thought we were gonna have to abandon our game. Do you guys listen, okay?
Speaker 3:no, no, alex rob, right off the bat is like okay, we're going into the hardest mode possible in this game, where you only get one save file and if you die, that's it. And I'm like bro, you're putting fucking adam and mike in this shit right off the bat they don't know their ass from their elbow in this game.
Speaker 3:How the hell are they gonna do anything? And he's like nope, right to this. I'm like all right, let's see how this goes. And it went exactly as I thought it was gonna go. It was so worth it.
Speaker 1:He's just like if you die you die, if you die, you die.
Speaker 2:That's it. You die, you die. That's fair. It was so worth it, though, the the amount of shenanigans we got into.
Speaker 1:That's like. That's like the nutrition space as a whole. If you die, you die.
Speaker 3:It's not that Fuck. I'm fucking joking. I've gone more towards Scotty's side, where it's just like I used to go through and try to explain all this shit, like oh no this is fine because of this.
Speaker 3:And now I'm just like, oh, the chemicals. No, that's it, that's the end of it, because that's all people want at the end of the fucking day. Yeah, I showed a video. I once said there was that. Have you seen the video, the viral video going around with a guy that's a soda addict and he's just like going through his day and he's drinking diet soda after diet soda after diet soda just tons of it.
Speaker 3:And honestly like people in the comments are like this is so healing for me. I was so worried about my one diet soda, or my two diet sodas, you know, and this is what did it. You could show them like all the fucking research in the world and it doesn't matter, but you show them a dude, that's fucking deep throating sodas 24, 7 and they're like oh, I feel so much better and I'm like all right, I guess that's what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1:I guess that's what makes people feel better I show people that I eat bagels and people will message me and be like.
Speaker 3:This is so healing for me and I'm like oh you, okay, so that I don't give a fuck foods. Uh, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't give it a. I don't give a fuck foods. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't give it, I don't give a fuck foods.
Speaker 1:You've probably seen that guy around.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen that guy. I'll send it to you?
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, I have. No, I know, I saw you.
Speaker 3:I don't give a fuck if this is filled with seed oils and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I used to smoke, crack rocks and crawl around on the carpet Like I. I had no idea that just that was more healing than like actually showing People don't care about the science.
Speaker 1:They don't care.
Speaker 3:They just want a guy to be like I smoked so much meth that my brain is a coral reef and I'm eating these foods and that that's better for them. Like that works. I'm like all right, I guess that's. This is what we're doing now. People fuck all the signs, fuck all the research. People are doing this shit and they're fine, and so are you.
Speaker 2:Are you going to pick up the meth for us? Oh my God.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I feel like I'm definitely more of a.
Speaker 1:There's some science behind meth.
Speaker 3:I need more of a downer thing, like a heroin situation maybe, or like you, know what I'm saying Like at least like something trippy like acid or like mushrooms or something like that.
Speaker 1:You know where you get. Shrooms are a good time. Shrooms seem like a good time. Have you never tried them? I've never tried shrooms.
Speaker 3:I've never tried any hallucinogen. I've tried shrooms. They were very fun. I feel like people say like just as long as you don't have a bad trip, you're fine.
Speaker 1:I'm like, just don't do too much and some people try and say like on an empty stomach.
Speaker 1:There you stomach, there you go. It's heavily researched in California, especially right now because they're doing the microdosing. So that's, it's in moderation. But what you do is you do like a heavy dose and then you like microdose throughout the week. Some guy I dated actually did it and I was very alarmed when he was like, yeah, today's my, so I can't see you, and I was like your heavy day of what? And he was like it's my, like, it's my shroom day and I was like, oh, we're not gonna have another date, no offense legal disclaimer we do not advocate for the use of any illegal drugs I was like, uh, that's fine.
Speaker 1:I'm like more power to you, but I don't want that in my life. Uh, uh, but yeah. No, I tried it once I sound. I sound like a hypocrite Cause I was like we're not going another day.
Speaker 2:I don't want that in my life. I tried it.
Speaker 1:Okay, to be fair, I tried it years after I went on a date with this guy, but it was. I tried it like twice and I probably won't do it again. I don't know if that's really advocating for trying it. Then it was, it was nice, I was very happy, I was calm, I saw pretty colors. I didn't get so far to like hallucinate or anything, but the everything was brighter and then I was like I'm just a happy person anyways, so I don't need this in my life that just seems better than a lot of these other drugs that people are just like fucking going bananas.
Speaker 3:You know, like, oh, like.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh for sure. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't need anything that hardcore in my life. You know, it's really good for your life, Just taking a moment to be like well, I'm actually really grateful to be here.
Speaker 3:Straight up, though Sometimes I sit there like and something's annoying me and I'm like we're on a fucking space pebble hurtling through the you know nothingness and we're here. Yes, that's amazing, like the fact that we are the only life that we know of and we've looked a lot of places. I'm sure it's out there, but like that we know of, yeah, right, and that's. That's crazy and that's and I'm mad about some guy who fucking cut me off in traffic.
Speaker 1:Like you know, sometimes you gotta put that shit into perspective get really upset sometimes like they get really defensive when you say that. And a lot of times it stems from people wanting to drag themselves down into, like, the depths of their despair. And I'm like but you don't have to be sad, you don't have to be like, life doesn't have to be hard, it can be. You don't have mushrooms instead, it's no, you don't have to worry about the fucking microplastics in your Costco chicken. It's fine. It's fine saying that like bananas and your smoothies are bad. And he like stitched the video and he was like, probably when we figured out that if you have bananas in the morning on an empty stomach then you're getting like a rocket full of cortisol or whatever, and I was like I literally responded to the video and I was like you must be fun and I'm just like you stressing this hard about stuff like bananas in a smoothie, Alex.
Speaker 3:You go on a date and you spend the night at a guy's house. We don't have to talk about what happens during that night, it's fine. But then he wakes up and he's like and you're like, let's have a banana smoothie. You're like oh no, we can't do that. That's going to spike my cortisol.
Speaker 2:My insulin is going to be through the roof.
Speaker 3:We need to have something and we got to have this crap. Go get the grass-fed butter. We cannot have that conventional shit like immediately you have a real story.
Speaker 1:I have a real story. Oh no, this is okay. This was my friend at the time. We actually dated after this. Like way after not immediately after we all went out drinking, there was a bunch of us I don't drink and so I was d but they drank next morning after being very drunk. I was like, hey, you want to go grab breakfast and you're probably hung over and stuff. So we go to breakfast and I'm like, oh, so what do you think about getting? I'm probably going to get like the pancakes or something like that. He's like I'm probably going to get eggs and like sausage and just keep it really clean, Cause I'm breaking my fast right now.
Speaker 3:Keep it clean. Don't worry about the fucking toxins you put in your body last night.
Speaker 1:Let's go I literally said that I was like so, did drinking just like not mean anything last night, or like what? And then I have never let him live it down since, like I still bring it up regularly.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 1:So people really do that. So moral of the story is it's not that serious, it's not that serious and if you're gonna fucking, if you're gonna like go out drinking or you're gonna like do drugs or even if you're just like having stuff in moderation, you don't need to stress that bad about like I need to break my fast with something that's going to be okay for my cortisol levels. Just eat the food I just want people to eat. Like that's what stresses me out the most. People will literally like refuse to eat because they're scared of the toxins that they're going to put in their body. Like they're like I don't have access to clean food right now. I just I have no options and I'm like you have options.
Speaker 3:Like it's still food, no, but it's got sugar and dyes and fucking all this shit. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:So, everybody out there who's looking to shoot their shot with Alex. Just eat the food.
Speaker 1:Didn't we talk about this the last time I was on here? It's like standards are on the floor. They're still there.
Speaker 2:They're still there. All you have to do is eat the food, people, and you might get a second date.
Speaker 3:There you go. Don't tell her about your heavy day on shrooms and don't try and keep it clean after a night of drinking. And yeah, you're doing better than most like on the floor.
Speaker 3:It's fine, I think, rob I have no idea where to go from there. I got nothing on anything. Man, my life's fucking like. I'm just for me like everything's so crazy. And then I just see people worried about like all this little shit. I'm like what the fuck are you doing to yourself? You know, I, just I, I can't stop, stop fucking freaking out and worrying about everything well, that's the crazy thing, right?
Speaker 1:obviously, like you work, you have a kid who's crying very frequently and making it very difficult to sleep, but it's like you're probably still getting in nutrients. You're probably still doing like baseline level, taking care of yourself, things besides sleeping. Oh, that's questionable.
Speaker 3:He's like you just fucking like get done what you can get done, and like I just I filmed a video recently, cause there's this like, uh, this, this mother, who's?
Speaker 1:like I decided to not give my kids uh grains anymore, like I don't want any more refined grains.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to give them, you know, like yogurt bowl, and I'm going to make them a second breakfast with, uh, eggs and avocado and all this stuff. And I was honestly like you know what I love this, Like I love that you're doing this.
Speaker 3:this is great for you, what I have an issue with is just like, then we take that to the next step of like, okay, if you do this, if you feed your kids cereal, then that then you're a bad mom, then you know you, then you're doing, you're doing harm to your kids, that sort of shit. That's the stuff I have an issue with. Like do whatever you want. If you want to eat only single ingredients off a cutting board, I love that for you. Like I truly do. I think that's so great. But like, because I have doritos here and there, that doesn't make it so it doesn't make me unhealthy.
Speaker 2:Like I just there's just, it's just so much it's no, it's the child you had that is making you unhealthy.
Speaker 3:They just like some of your life force, just you know, gets just sucked out and just you know it leaves your body forever and you replace it with as much as you can, with doritos your life.
Speaker 1:your life force will be reinforced as the child ages and starts to sleep and things and you get to like make great memories, but I am hopeful.
Speaker 3:I am hopeful, yet skeptical. Let me just put it that way.
Speaker 1:I going back to what you were saying earlier, I do. I think that it is wild how people will like there's so many double standards for if they see somebody who, in their brain, looks healthy and they're doing something like getting McDonald's or something they're like, oh this is so healing for me, but then somebody else who doesn't fit the standard mold of like whatever a healthy body should look like, then they're like oh, you should really. You should really stop with the McDonald's, or like you really really need to calm down. And it's so interesting because I, as much as I want people to be healthy one you can't just tell by looking at somebody anyways but also it's like it's never my place to be, like you are unhealthy because of what you're eating. You're unhealthy because you're doing these things. It's none of your fucking business, your fucking business. Like everyone's so entitled to give their opinion. But also they need to check their the double standards that they're like coming in with.
Speaker 2:I love talking about the, the disability that I was born with, and then I get the people in the comment section being like well, if you ate better, you wouldn't have that bitch. I was born with it.
Speaker 1:I didn't eat anything to get it I have celiacs and people get real upset if I'm like I, I can't eat gluten, and I'm like I actually can't. And then people are like oh, should I not eat gluten?
Speaker 3:and I'm like uh, no, no, that's not what I said in a video I said how much I hate stevie and they're like wait, wait because that? Because stevie is bad? Is that? Because, like, we should stop eating? Like what the fuck? No, I just don't like the taste of it.
Speaker 2:I've seen that in your comments.
Speaker 3:It's like shit and then people get mad Like but I like it, though, also dope. I also fucking hate oysters, but if you like those weird fucking slime boogers, then have at them.
Speaker 2:That's more for you eating bananas, just so that people don't get that impression.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like fucking what. But like saying you don't like something should not equal than people being like he doesn't like it. I can't have it.
Speaker 3:It's like that's not what that means it just means the preference we get caught up, though, in like our favorite, like influencers and stuff, and they're like well, we see them and we want to try and do the things, and that's that Like well, we see them and we want to try and do the things, and that's that Like, how do you feel? Like the what I eat in a day is I don't have any inherent issue with I don't either, right, but like you know, when you see someone who's like ripped to fucking shreds just like dick, skin level body fat, you know and like With or without piercing.
Speaker 3:Oh God, no, oh, oh, yeah. And and then you see like oh, and this is what I eat, and people are like okay, so like bro that's what they associate it with.
Speaker 1:That's how I can look that way. That's what I do. Yeah, get like this guy.
Speaker 3:Uh, meanwhile he's fucking, you know, starving himself and doing all sorts and taking fucking the kitchen bologna sandwiches the trend bologna sandwiches.
Speaker 1:Start your day off with that you're good for the rest of the day and yeah, but that where like, that's where we just we need to be smart consumers and like obviously I understand it's difficult in this day and age and we shouldn't just expect people to like not associate that, especially cause some people start them off with body checking.
Speaker 3:Like, they're like hey, this is what I look like.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it already sets the expectation I look like this. So if you eat like this, you can look like me. So just like I think what I eat in a day, videos can be very helpful because it can give you ideas of like foods you can eat. It can set, maybe, better expectations of how much to eat. But then also you see the people who are like I've seen a lot of models who will do like what I eat in a day. That's not to like pin against models, but they just happen to typically eat less and a lot of them will eat very few calories. And then it's like okay, now we're being potentially a little problematic because we're showing like us under eating severely and suggesting that this is how people should live, when it's not.
Speaker 2:So there's live when it's not so there's. There's always pluses and minuses. Like I need to be about alex's size to have a basal metabolic rate of 1200, alex.
Speaker 3:How many calories do you eat in a day?
Speaker 2:because you're like on the shorter side right.
Speaker 3:I don't know how tall you are. I'm assuming you're short.
Speaker 1:It just seems that way I have so many people say that I have tall girl energy. I think the energy is great.
Speaker 3:I love it but, like you know, just I'm just looking at like measurements here. You know, I'm just telling you guys, think I am um times, yeah, sizing you up, I think I would say probably like five, two I was literally about to say five, two, two I am in fact five two yeah, there we go. I am five. Two guessing people's height.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I eat usually about 2,000 calories a day to like maintain.
Speaker 3:So that's for like someone who's 5'2".
Speaker 1:But I'm also active. I also make sure to always add that Everybody's different, like you can't base off anything.
Speaker 3:Right right, right, right, right. But like I, did a bunch. She's been trying to lose a lot of weight and she's eating like 2,300 calories and I've been I posted on Facebook and it kind of took off and I just like comment after comment like she should not be eating 2,300 calories. That is way too many.
Speaker 1:She's 1,700 max to lose weight, and I'm like we're so skewed on what people need to lose weight and I'm like everyone's different. Like what a concept. They also think they need to be starving themselves.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like if you're not hungry all the time, that you're not losing weight, right, yeah, but to be fair, for me, like a deficit would be like 1600 calories, which, yeah, I mean that's like 1650. I mean it's it's just what's required of my body. I've been in like deficits before and that's like literally I need to, that's like that's doable. I mean, it's just what's required of my body.
Speaker 1:I've been in like deficits before and that's like, literally, I need to be at like. If I've tried like 1750, 1800, it's just not enough, and so I usually have to go to like the 1650-ish area pretty consistently.
Speaker 3:But I'm sure doing that long-term's gotta be tough, like you know oh there's no shot, I would do it long-term. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That would be for just for a deficit.
Speaker 3:Right, so like if.
Speaker 1:I'm just going through a fat loss phase to just and that's the thing too, though, is like this is kind of what we were talking about earlier, where I was like I kind of want to go through a deficit.
Speaker 3:I really don't want to. At the same time, though because, like I, I have no reason I was just going to say, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1:I'm already limited at 2000.
Speaker 3:How dare you.
Speaker 1:I don't have to stop at 2000 calories, but I don't feel good when I have significantly more than that. So that's part of the reason I just don't overeat is like I just don't feel good when I do. Oh, I get you, but I don't want to go through a deficit because I don't want to be hungry.
Speaker 3:Fat loss phases Like how long can you go before you're?
Speaker 1:like I have not. I have not done a fat loss phase in probably three years. Um, I usually would do probably like 12 weeks 12 weeks.
Speaker 3:That that's even long for me, like when I I haven't done in like a couple of years, but it's like six weeks, like six eight weeks and I'm like do you go like really aggressive? Not even really Like honestly I'll go like, but I eat generally like 33 to 3,500 a day. So yeah, I know, so like I eat 3,000 or 2,800 for like a deficit. You're hating him so much right now, but even then, for me I'm still hungry, like at 2,800, like I'm still like hungry.
Speaker 1:Oh see, at like 1600, I get hungry, Like I'm for sure hungry, and like very aware that food is a thing and thinking about it more frequently, but I am not like uncomfortable. I've gotten down to like 1250 for calories.
Speaker 3:You're just hungry all the time.
Speaker 1:I was pretty, I was literally so awful, because this is this is back when I was doing my bodybuilding show. I did one and I literally doused everything in as much hot sauce and stuff as I could just for extra calories.
Speaker 3:I had salsas and stuff and I was like, okay, how can I add more? You got your dipping pickles into mustard Like God. I just need something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was literally like okay, just zero calorie anything. Uh, so that was awful. But like 1650 is not like uncomfortable for me, it's just. It's just. The thing about that is like you're kind of saying with like how many calories you can eat, you're so limited you have to do food volume Like there's no if ands or buts. Like that, david bar or whatever, I would lose my mind wasting calories. Like I would be thinking about wasting calories on that Cause I'm like this is so small.
Speaker 3:It gets bad when you, when you get into the wasting calories, you're like, oh I can't have, like I need, I need. Like fucking cauliflower, I need cause.
Speaker 1:If you have like a protein bar, like I love Aloha bars, they're so good, they have a good amount of fiber in them, but they're like they're calorie dense. They're like 230 calories for like not that big of a bar and I'm like if I was on a deficit and I'm like I only have so much volume. Because the thing is I see people who are on Ozempic, who they do this and I'm not going to go in the depths of Ozempic here, but your empty here, but your hunger is downregulated, so you're just not as hungry and so having a bar isn't that big of a deal. My hunger was not downregulated, so having a bar would not satisfy me for more than an hour.
Speaker 3:I will tell you like it got bad for me at points where I was like okay, there's this bar that's 190 calories and this one's 180. I don't like the 181 nearly as much as the 190, but fucking need those 10 calories, man. I need those 10 calories. Those are coming with me you know, so like pickle later that's extra mustard right there, because it's not actually zero calories. That's not. They round down, they round down. So I gotta be.
Speaker 3:People hate to hear that oh, yeah, so like it got to the point where I would have like dry chicken breast and just dip it in mustard and just eat that, like, like that's all I was you know I can't judge because I've been there. Right, like when you get into fitness, like you see these things, you're like okay, I'm getting into this and like it works. I'm not gonna lie, that shit works. But you're just like miserable and hungry, and you know low energy.
Speaker 1:Well, and then people wonder why you, like you, have such a skewed perception of your body because you go through these like grueling, just awful times of intense fat loss. And then you're like, oh, why can't I stay at this really, really lean body that I've worked so hard to get at? And it's like, well, it's because I had to do ridiculous things to get there Because your body's like please fucking sustenance, for the love of God give me food? Yeah, so I did. Is fucking for the love of god, give me food.
Speaker 3:Yeah so I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I get one more dry salad, I'm gonna fucking scream the worst would be like when I would have salads, because that salads obviously big ass salads. They're big, they're a key when in a deficit. But when I was in like the depths of like the twin, like 12, 50 calorie range, my gosh, if I had like a mustard packet to like put some, like cause I wouldn't use dressing no dressing here. So I was mustard and hot sauce. I would always make sure to like squeeze the mustard packet into my mouth after.
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, it's so bad. I feel it Like, I feel it like, I feel it oh I would get the skinny girl dressings.
Speaker 1:That ones are like five calories no, that's too much, man, come on mustard, no listen I could deal with like, as long as I had a lot of greens and radishes I'd blow that shit up with radishes I didn't even really like radishes, but I still fucking ate them.
Speaker 3:And like it was just some pickles, like it was oh it was not good. Literally, you just picked the most zero calorie. You just picked the most zero calorie things and you put them into a bowl and that's where I was at.
Speaker 1:And then like a tuna packet.
Speaker 3:Or five calorie dressing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't. People wonder why I'm so adamant about the whole, like you'll never hate yourself into a body you love, and I was like it's because I was there. I was there for years, I was in like the depths of it and the worst part was because I just didn't have that much education around nutrition at that time. I always wondered why I could down like five giant sushi rolls when I would go out with my friends. Like they were huge. I think I have a video of it. If I find it I'll send it. But it's, they were giant, like so much rice and I could eat five no problem. And I didn't realize it's because I was starving and I was like, oh, it's because my body needs food, great.
Speaker 3:So that was my experience with it you find it like, and so like I am like one. I don't even weighed myself in months, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Like I don't have a scale I, I have a scale.
Speaker 3:It's dead, I haven't charged it but like, yeah, I usually I fluctuate in like the 190 to like 195 when I'm not thinking about food and I just kind of stay there and I'm like I could get down to 180 and just be like pretty lean, but then I'm just think I have to plan everything I have to. I think about food a lot. It's just not worth it and like, yeah, you're leader, you can take pictures, you can post on instagram like, look at me, check it out. But like, is that worth it? Is that like just to be hungry all the time and I'll be like, oh no, I can't go out and get pizza. Guys, sorry, I'm just gonna eat my lettuce with mustard. Have a good time.
Speaker 1:Let me know how it is. It smells delicious. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Oh, wow, it must've been even longer since I've tried to be in a deficit, because I think the last time I tried I was living in LA, so it was like 2019. And so?
Speaker 3:it's been like five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, during COVID. To be fair, though, and this is like a testament to having gone through a deficit, like an intentional fat loss phase, and what you can learn from it, because during COVID I gained weight I gained probably like 15, 20 pounds, because I feel like most people did, because I went from COVID.
Speaker 1:Well, it was like I was acting at the time and doing stunts, no-transcript balanced meals throughout the day and like listening to my hunger again, but I'd already done it. So I like lost the weight without having to be like I'm doing a fat loss phase. I was literally just like, oh, I need to get my shit together a little bit and I'm like for I would say for like a lot of people, like probably 70% of people that alone would make such a big difference. I'm just like I just need to do a couple things.
Speaker 3:I don't need to be in a fat loss space just like how everybody has kind of this different point where they they feel more comfortable. And some people, you know, like there's the people that are like in the 200s, you know they're like, oh, it's like 230. If I get below that, you know I'm I'm starving and you kind of have to just find that area that works for you and for some people. Just they got fucked genetically, like I was about to say.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about, like the big physique guys at the 230s?
Speaker 3:so like there's the dudes, you know, like they're like, there's dudes that are like I can't get below 230, but I want to get there and I'm like, hey, that's awesome, you feel great there. Like that's, that's super dope. But like I think some people, they just their body is just fighting them like every step of the way yeah they just don't like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they can get lower, they can reduce their calories, but then they're just miserable, like for me, it's like 190 to 195, I lucked out and that's, like you know, a quote-unquote healthy body weight range. But for you know, for a lot of people it's just much higher and they're fighting their. They have to do like what we're talking about, you know, in order to get to. That was how I was.
Speaker 1:Cause I'm I'm like one 30, one 35 right now, that's usually where I like hang out and I'm five, two, so I'm short, so that's like a, like an average ish, I think, weight for my height. Uh, and I I'm definitely not overweight by any means, like I'm very aware of what I look like. But when I wanted to get lean it took a lot. Like I was doing like 20,000 steps a day and I was teaching like group classes. I was always on my feet so I was just very active throughout the entire day. So it made it a lot easier where I didn't have to like be as intentional about it. But if I wanted to get that lean again I would take so much effort.
Speaker 3:So I got that 104 pounds. I think there's a lot of people that have to do that effort just to get to a, you know, healthy body weight range, a healthy weight. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Do you think it's a lot of genetics or do you think it's also just like what they've gone through in their life to get them to where they are now?
Speaker 3:I think everyone's going to say it's a combination of both, right Like I don't think anyone's going to like. It's definitely gonna be a combination of both, but I think genetics plays a large, a bigger factor than even people will say.
Speaker 1:Are you saying for them to even maintain it once they get there? Are you saying the fat loss stays in general To get there to maintain it?
Speaker 3:everything. There's some people that you know, let's say they're your height, but they're like 200 pounds and they want to get down to the 130, 140, whatever, and they feel like they have to do what you do to get like really lean just to get to that healthy weight range and I'm like, yeah, you could do it. How much is it worth it?
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 3:better to do that, or is it better just to be like? I just want to be healthy, so let me eat a more balanced diet, let me just exercise more, because that will go a long way.
Speaker 2:You know that goes back to the um not being able to judge somebody's health based on how they look yeah and like even if you are a heavier weight, if you're being active, then a lot of that fat is going to be subcutaneous instead of visceral.
Speaker 3:So the visceral fats would surround your organs and they've shown that, like, moderate intensity cardio can shift fat away from visceral fat and move it more towards subcutaneous. Even without a deficit, like you, actually, it actually shifts. So, like, is it better than just to be like, okay, I'm going to get energy, so that I'm going to get food, so I feel energized, and then I'm just going to have more energy to exercise and do all these other things that are healthier for me? And I think you, just I can't give you what that balance is, but, like, I think everyone just kind of has to find that for them and not focus solely on the scale and getting there.
Speaker 3:Because if that's the case. You might just do some shit that's so unhealthy to get there Like you. Just do some shit that's so unhealthy to get there like you. There's people that you know obviously like throw up they do also eat the eating disorders develop and stuff like that, and I'm like that's not healthy to get there. Like yeah, you got to 130 throwing up after meal. I don't think anyone would say that. Maybe some people say that's healthy, fuck them.
Speaker 3:But like, that's not the videos I get tagged in, people are like if they just did like fuck, get fucked. But like you know, throwing up to get down to a healthy weight is that healthy? I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Well it's, that's the like, really unsexy side of fitness, right, Is like if we take, if we stop focusing so much on the scale, like we're literally just like if the scale didn't exist, we stopped worrying so much about gravity, and you're just like, hey, every day I'm going to try and have a couple balanced meals, I'm going to try and make sure I move my body, I'm going to try and make sure I get some sleep. Like if you just do the baseline things, if you can, um, it's like. It's like, don't attack me when I'm down, um, but if you just do the baseline things and just focus, let it just be that. But that's the unsexy thing, right, because everyone's like no, I have to be trying to lose weight, I have to be smaller.
Speaker 2:I have to do this. There has to be some sort of secret to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like, and I get it, it's not. I don't want to tell people not to have physical goals either, because I know that that's such a predominant thing where people are like you shh like telling people, telling them, like should be fat, I'm like what the fuck.
Speaker 1:I've gotten both ends of the spectrum where people are like you're promoting obesity because you're telling people to love themselves, like no matter how much they weigh, and I'm like, I'm saying you should take care of yourself and like you should move your body, work on your emotional intelligence and you should eat well.
Speaker 1:Like emotional intelligence is such an underrated aspect of this, because that's usually one of the biggest correlations to eating disorders, but that's not talked about or it's just disregarded when it comes to people having problems with food, and I'm like, well, most people weren't taught how to deal with their emotions and so we're basically turning to food or exercise. Also, look at the gym bros. No, like this is going to be a different example, but seriously, so many of the like the biggest dudes in the gym are people who were bullied in school for being really, really small or for being overweight, and so they went to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and they still struggle with immense insecurities because they're scared of being the small guy, they're scared of being the fat guy, and so they just get really like nervous about that and that's why they're so big, and some of them are, like, still very, very nice, but they're also very insecure.
Speaker 2:They still feel Well and they're they're teddy bears out of that because, like they know, they were in that experience, so they don't want to pass it on to other people.
Speaker 3:There's a great satire I forget his name, but on YouTube, very funny. He's like only big people think about being small. Small people don't think about being small. It's like, if you're, that's why they're big is because they think about being small so much they don't want to be small. Like Bill Gates isn't like damn, I'm small, he's just fucking Bill Gates.
Speaker 2:He's fucking doing his shit, but the big guys in the gym, it's just like, if they get.
Speaker 3:They, you know, body dysmorphia is fucking real man, you know, and they can go. It can go any way yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's my two cents on that, because I just think that I think people need to. I think it's fine to have aesthetic goals. I think it's fine to want to change the way that you look. That's fine. It's fine Like again, people get so angry about it, but it shouldn't be the only thing. And God forbid, if the scale doesn't go in the direction that you want or the pant size doesn't drop as quickly as you want, that's not an indication to just stop, like you can't control the scale, you can't control your actions.
Speaker 2:You can control the baseball bat, control the scale. You can't control your actions.
Speaker 1:You can't control the baseball bat hitting the scale. The scale is just a number, but that's literally how people need to think about it, because so many people are like, oh, I just don't. I know we just talked about how we just don't use it anymore, but we just talked about the biggest loser.
Speaker 3:We're like, literally the only thing that was progress for them was the scale.
Speaker 1:And that's it. Fuck your mental health. Fuck was the scale yeah.
Speaker 3:Was the scale, and that's it. Fuck your mental health, fuck anything else?
Speaker 1:Just the scale, that's all you are, wasn't it like 85% of the people who were on the Biggest Loser gained the weight back plus more within like a year?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they didn't teach they literally just taught them to like hate themselves and just exercise constantly and not eat.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I was like you're on a show, like you're literally you're being paid to not eat exercise, and so the second you're out of that and back like thrown back into reality. You have to deal with all the other shit going on.
Speaker 3:Fucking the scale is one factor.
Speaker 1:It's not the only factor, so but it also shouldn't like you, shouldn't be scared to step on it.
Speaker 3:in my opinion, and that's a tough thing for so many people like that. You know, they just can't do it at all and I'm like honestly like, if that's the case, like you know, do you just want to focus on other things? That's totally cool, but it does kind of suck that you can't even use it, as you know.
Speaker 1:I just I don't, I don't, I'm never going to tell anyone you have to step on the scale by any means ever. I don't like things having that much control over me. Like to the point where, mentally, if I stepped on it and it was a number that like some random number that's just in my head and it just it made me spiral, like I don't want something to have that much control over me, and I think more people should view it that way of like I need to have more control mentally and deal with whatever's going on with my relationship with the scale. Like I talk so much about how we were brought up to believe that we need to look a certain way throughout different decades, like literally every decade we were told to be something different and so like that's what skewed our perception of like how we look, and so I just get.
Speaker 1:I just don't want people to be victims to their circumstances either and I'm not saying people are always being a victim, but a lot of times if we're like I just can't do it, this thing is bad, it's scary, I'm like that's. So it's okay to be scared and to still do the thing, and it doesn't have to control you, it doesn't have to ruin your life, and so that's where I think that it can actually empower a lot of people to deal with the thing that they're scared of. We're literally doing that. Um, we're doing a candy challenge. It's like a popular thing around this time of year where you do like candy challenges, where it's like people who are scared to eat candy or scared to eat a certain food for like 10, 15 days.
Speaker 1:This is really common with a lot of people, uh, with like a lot of dietitians who deal with people with eating disorders, where it's basically exposure therapy, and so every single day you have one small piece of candy, and so you do that for like 10, 15 days in a row and that's literally it. It's. You have your big because it's halloween, you know, everyone has their big candies. You get the big mixed bag of candy.
Speaker 2:they're all pre-packaged every single day are you telling me that you're somebody that doesn't give out the full-size bars?
Speaker 3:I don't even think I'm getting out of this too expensive, what I was like in this economy where you are what do you do?
Speaker 1:you think I'm some like secret billionaire.
Speaker 2:To be fair, I only get like two kids.
Speaker 1:You go to the rich neighborhoods for that. But seriously, if you, if you like, struggle with candy, it's actually or like a food, like a trigger food. Not everyone can do this, but like doing it every single day and knowing that it's going to be there, the exposure therapy can make it easier for you to actually navigate it and it takes away the novelty of it, so it doesn't feel as restricted, so it makes it a better relationship with food. I like it. You knew the same thing with the scale.
Speaker 3:I thought the candy challenge was just pronouncing it correctly Reese's, reese's, reese's.
Speaker 1:Wait is that not right, reese's, it Reese's, reese's, reese's. Wait, is that not right Reese's? It's not right Reese's, but I love it. I like it more, reese's.
Speaker 3:Reese's, it rhymes and it's fun. Reese's but people, it's Reese's Pieces. That's why they created.
Speaker 2:Reese's Pieces is so.
Speaker 3:People would say Reese's right, but all of us fucking shenanigan people over here are like no we're just going to keep it but change pieces. Reese's pieces. Reese's pieces.
Speaker 1:What are the rest of the candies Snickers there's not really any other ones, snickers.
Speaker 3:There's only one candy Reese's.
Speaker 1:It's Reese's pieces. I say Reese's, I get it.
Speaker 3:Do you know? Like what was it? What's the ET? They were going to do M&M's and M&M's said no. So they went to Reese's and they were like yeah, sure, fucking, worst decision M&M's has ever made.
Speaker 1:It's so wild to hear companies say that I'm like come on, guys, you're getting free ad. Well, it's not free, but you're getting good advertising.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're like no, don't use. Like it's fucking Steven Spielberg, you fucking losers.
Speaker 3:What are you talking about? Throw your candy in there. Was he that famous before ET? I'm going to say yes, I don't know when Jaws came out.
Speaker 2:I don't know, jaws is a thing. I said Jaws, no, no, I was thinking something else. You know that Apple Actually, no, no idea.
Speaker 1:I'm terrible with movies so.
Speaker 3:I'm terrible with movies.
Speaker 1:Apple doesn't let villains hold their phones at all Like you cannot.
Speaker 3:Oh no shit.
Speaker 1:Villains are not allowed to have Apple products in any show or movie. So that's a really. This sounds so weird. That's a really good way to tell if someone's a villain in like a show or a movie is like if everyone has an Apple. Yeah, Isn't that wild.
Speaker 3:Interesting. They're a good guy if they've got apple, so apple is good and I need to buy apple.
Speaker 1:That's basically their, that's their mindset around it, because they're like we don't want the bad guy to have the apple phone but the bad guy is always the one that makes all the really cool stuff yeah, that's great to me. I would buy the villain stuff. Do you know? Like there's?
Speaker 3:people that have like their contract they can't lose a fight Like I'm pretty sure the Rock has that in his contract Like he can't lose a fight in a movie and he has like I thought he lost a fight in Fast and the. Furious like six, I heard like him and then the other guy in like Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 1:What are we on Fast and the Furious 27, 27 now something like that.
Speaker 3:We're like like 11. It's tough, whatever. It's fucking ridiculous. 69 there's like two of them that also have a child in their contract.
Speaker 1:They can't lose a fight so they're always in stalemats, stalemats, stalemats stalemate.
Speaker 3:So they're always in stalemates because neither of them can lose the fight, because it's in their contract, so they always have to write it in that makes so much sense I love. That that's. That's just like your ego being like no I can't even lose a fictitious fight in this fantasy world. That is fast and the furious.
Speaker 1:18 oh my gosh, that actually makes a lot more sense now, because I always wondered why their fights like ended the way they did, and so now that makes a lot of sense yeah, I've seen every fast and furious movie.
Speaker 3:Or like I can't die in a movie. They'll have that in their contract. Some people have that as well.
Speaker 1:What's his face? Definitely doesn't have that Ned Stark, the guy who plays him, oh gosh. Oh, what's his name? Boromir? Oh, I don't remember his name.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, his name. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know you're talking about.
Speaker 2:He dies in everything. Yeah, he dies in everything. It's the same guy as nick stark. I forget his real name.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna be like all this conversation is just over my head. Man, I fucking loved uh game of thrones, sean bean. So yeah, being so much, and then, man, that's they destroyed it.
Speaker 1:They destroyed season eight.
Speaker 3:We're changing the whole fucking in moderation. Now it's just fucking. How mad I am at Game of Thrones for like the final season.
Speaker 2:I was finally going to watch Game of Thrones. I was waiting for it to finish, and then season eight came out and everybody told me how trash it was.
Speaker 1:So I was like, oh well it's still worth watching up to season three season seven I like what's this? Oh, oh my gosh, the bastard, not Jon Snow Bolton.
Speaker 3:Come on.
Speaker 1:Ramsey. Ramsey yeah, it's probably going to sound so weird that I say I like him because he's like he's but he's such a good villain.
Speaker 3:He does a lot of terrible things.
Speaker 1:He's such a good villain and that's what, that.
Speaker 3:What do you like about villains Alex, what, what, what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you seem to have a thing for villains.
Speaker 1:I love me an enemies to lovers book, fourth wing. Fourth wing's not really enemies to lovers, like rivals to lovers, but give me like a good enemies to lovers book just eat that shit up.
Speaker 2:I love it. I don't know why. What.
Speaker 1:So all you people shooting your shot with alex, just eat the food and be a dick. There you go. A little bit of a villain, treat me like absolute trash and it's gonna be great start being a little bit nicer and then I'll be like wait a minute.
Speaker 3:You might not have an Apple phone, but I'm sure you can figure it out.
Speaker 1:Okay, to be fair, on the real end of me dating, I always end up dating very, very, very nice people Like I date the like very nicest human. But when it comes to books and fantasy stuff, I love me and enemies to lovers. I don't there's something interesting about it. Because it's, I'm going to go with the first word that it technically is. Which is it's a little toxic? Which is it's fantasy? It's not real.
Speaker 1:So, are you like in the Fifty Shades of Grey territory here or where we are? So Fifty Shades of Grey is not enemies to lovers. Okay, that is just. That's like what's.
Speaker 2:There's like an actual word for it it's like bondage or something that's just like hurting each other yeah, like that's what that is.
Speaker 1:Enemies to lovers is when they like legitimately have reasons to like. A example is the book that I'm reading is the main character man. His dad, was killed by the woman's main character's mom and he, his dad, also killed her brother are we like a romeo and juliet thing?
Speaker 3:hate each other, though, and romeo and juliet, I was about to say, they never like hated each other.
Speaker 1:So like these people actually like have beef, like they go to school together and they actually have like problems with each other, but then eventually, they're like a happy Ellen McCoy. I don't even know what that is. Oh, you don't have to.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, whatever, even I know that one, two feuding families, it's nevermind.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, not west side story no, okay, that's something else but yeah it's basically romeo and juliet, but then with, like people in new york anyways, uh, so they just like actually like have beef with each other, but then, eventually, they like realize that they have tension and then it turns into love. Interesting, I don't know, there's something about it. I, to be fair, though, I do like that, but I also think there's something to be said about people who are like friends first and then it like turns into love, like. I really like that. That's thrown a glass, rowan and alin for anyone who's listening, that one's. That's. That's what happens there. Wait, is that a spoiler?
Speaker 3:spoiler alert we would love, we would have. Yeah, I don't it's fine.
Speaker 1:So I just read my.
Speaker 2:I just talk about nutrition and read my romanticism, but soon I'll be a twitcher, yeah you need to just set up your twitch and just read chapters from your books on it I I want your Twitch handle to be enemies to lovers, though, and if it's not. I'm going to be extremely disappointed.
Speaker 1:That's honestly probably taken. I mean okay, Well, maybe enemies to Twitchers. I'll do enemies to lovers 13. No one, take it. I'll take it. I'll get it out to this. 13 is my favorite number. Fun fact. The reason 13 is my favorite number it, I'll take it. I'll get it out to this. 13 is my favorite number. Fun fact. The reason 13 is my favorite number is because I felt really bad when people would always say it was unlucky and so I was like, well, I want to tell my lucky number.
Speaker 2:I felt bad for 13 when I was a kid, you felt bad for a number.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 13's getting left out in the cold and I need to bring it in and give it some soup.
Speaker 1:Maybe this is explaining the whole like toxic side of it, because I'm like, yeah, I feel bad for the mean guy and so let me try and fix him, let me fix them. Yeah, that's classic. Yeah, so that's my answer to that. Do you guys not read?
Speaker 1:I don't have time for that I'm too busy reading billions of studies billions and billions of studies billions and billions of studies clearly, the studies don't matter, because all you have to do is say no yeah, I've been wasting my life you spent so much fucking time doing these fucking deep dives into, like these just the nitty gritty.
Speaker 3:And then I love that scotty comes through and goes, no, and like everyone's like yes, scott, let's go. It's so fucking great it's not that serious it's not that serious. And then everyone's like, oh, scotty's figured it out I've wasted my life you just should have just yelled at the camera, no I should have just you already yell at the camera. I yell at the camera a lot oh yeah, no, I'm definitely going that way, like I'm just like nope, that's, that's it, nope.
Speaker 1:I like when you do the responses to like six videos. Oh yeah, the bullshit. Speed rounds are great. I like those People don't give a shit. Like am.
Speaker 3:I going to spend a minute talking about someone saying like you know, bull testicles are the best thing you should eat, fuck. What am I going to talk about? Like I don't. Oh man, oh, I, oh man, nope, oh, I have. I'm gonna give you guys like a little sneak peek. I found I found a great video that maybe you can help me out figure out for my bullshit speed rounds oh gosh, I just got it.
Speaker 3:You don't really need to hear it. She's got a bottle of like sea moss. You guys know sea moss, right, great that's very popular right now I was worried he was about to say a bottle of semen. Well, that's foreshadowing, foreshadowing, oh dear, a little foreshadowing here.
Speaker 1:Oh, were you sleeping? My dog sleeps better than your child.
Speaker 3:Anybody and everything sleeps better.
Speaker 1:Hi the fuck. You also don't cry. I love you. Oh, you look so grouchy. Why do you look so grouchy? She's like you've awoken me from my slumber.
Speaker 2:See, my cat also just curls up with me and sleeps the entire night, never wakes me up, okay.
Speaker 3:All right, hold on. I found it here. Listen, listen, listen. You can put somebody's yogurt blaster in your mouth. You can also put a tablespoon of sea moss gel. That will actually benefit your health in your mouth.
Speaker 1:That's the whole video she called it a yogurt blaster, and my idea, what do you guys think?
Speaker 3:I've got a couple I've got a couple thoughts. That's what I'm starting the video, because that's a start. That's a start to a video.
Speaker 1:No, let me do my video. First I'm cracking the news on this you can do it first, I'll do it like next week, it's fine.
Speaker 3:So what I'm thinking is what are you? I'm thinking like I don't know, with the yogurt. Considering each one of those jars costs almost 30 dollars and the price of groceries, I feel like my wife would be less mad with me if I went with the yogurt blaster. Let me know, honey, what's next. That's what I'm thinking, and then I can have her like comment on the video or something like that, like go with the yogurt blaster, it's fucking that shit's way too expensive, or whatever, something like that.
Speaker 1:That's funny. I would do that straight into that. Yeah, you don't need the fluff before it, just go straight into it With the price of groceries.
Speaker 3:I'm just going for the yogurt, considering that jar costs 30 bucks and the price of groceries. I'm going yogurt blaster all day.
Speaker 2:To be fair, you are married. If you're not asleep, you're getting. It's more like a yogurt drizzle.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, my god, go with the yogurt drizzle. You might have to do a little too much. To be fair, you're married, so it's a lot safer. But even people who aren't married it's like it's probably cheaper to get an std test than it is to get some cmos in canada, it's free. Oh shit, they go to Planned.
Speaker 2:Parenthood.
Speaker 1:I think that people try and argue that there is protein in yogurt blasters.
Speaker 3:In yogurt blasteds.
Speaker 2:We need to get us that picture of Cuckles and put that on a shirt with yogurt blaster.
Speaker 1:I'm fucking dead, dead. I can't believe that she said that oh, but that's great for social media.
Speaker 3:That shit fucking works right, like I was gonna say her video probably blew up.
Speaker 1:I think I got like a million views, so like I thought it'd be more good that's pretty good.
Speaker 3:I thought it'd be more.
Speaker 1:That's fucking hilarious, that's fucking yeah.
Speaker 2:I've started putting clips before the episode when I put them up on YouTube. This is that clip. That's the clip. This is the clip. We're going to start off strong with the yogurt blaster.
Speaker 1:Because I'm assuming you're going to make that video like tonight or tomorrow.
Speaker 3:I don't know, because it's like a bullshit speed round, so I have to like find other videos, you know. So I'm like, okay, what am I doing next? And like, you know, how do I transition all these things?
Speaker 1:You get very different things on your feed than I do. I got that guy who, like, lifted the 107 pounds on one side.
Speaker 3:Did you see that?
Speaker 1:saw that that was insane yeah I was like that grip strength. It's stronger than my will to live. I'm like damn, just kidding, I don't have anything problems like that anymore I thought you were saying just kidding, I don't have not since this rooms no, I went to therapy. It was great. I recommend it.
Speaker 3:I highly recommend therapy. We talk about all this other shit and like what's it like, Therapy, Therapy.
Speaker 1:Working on your shit solves a lot of problems, Turns out. If you just work on your shit, you can be like 90% happier.
Speaker 3:Oh, here's another one I'm just giving sneak previews Like this. This morning I woke up craving breast milk ice cream. So I grabbed my electric pump and pumped a few. So it's just her making breast milk ice cream and I just want to like, look at the camera and just be like no and then just end the video right there.
Speaker 1:I honestly wouldn't be opposed to that. No, no. That IFBB Pro was like talking about drinking breast milk oh really yeah, I can't remember his name. It was like really popular. I actually think you did a video stitch to him. Uh, I'll find it. But there was a. There was an ifbb pro because, because, or something like that.
Speaker 3:Uh, I don't know. He's always yelling with his shirt off in the pool, or is that a different guy? No, oh, I don't even know who you're talking about yeah, he's the guy that like doubled for like ryan reynolds in like the movie oh yeah, no, that's not.
Speaker 1:I looked up breast milk and I heavily regret it. Like on tiktok, I'm like I, uh, I think people are probably making bank on only fans on this side of tiktok oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's a reason people so many people promote their only fans.
Speaker 2:That shit works heck, just look at bell delphine right I don't know selling gamer girl water gamer what is bell delphine, right, I don't know who that is Selling gamer girl water Gamer girl what is Belle Delphine? She was a streamer and she sold her bath water.
Speaker 3:Bath. Okay, yeah, I remember you saying that story, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay so.
Speaker 2:I haven't.
Speaker 1:Okay, I haven't been sent dick pics, but but there is somebody.
Speaker 2:Have you been sent foot pricks?
Speaker 1:So so there is somebody even said foot pricks. So so there is somebody, there is somebody who added me to their close friends and I was like, why am I on this person's close friends? And then it's all foot fetish stuff, like all it is is, and I was like, oh, that's, that's a no from me.
Speaker 2:Foot fetish is interesting.
Speaker 1:I've heard that. It's just like that's a no from me.
Speaker 3:Foot fetish is interesting. I've heard that it's just like there's a in your brain where, like it's that senses your feet is like connected to, or is right next to, another place that has to do with sexual arousal, and the idea is these things get like crossed. I've also heard that yeah.
Speaker 2:I've heard this. I don't know if it's true, I've not looked into that.
Speaker 1:I have not looked into it, but that's what people tell me, that and I'm like that would, I could, it would make sense, I could see like people also have fetishes like really unhinged fetishes and all sorts of shit.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just that foot fetish is so common it is.
Speaker 1:Is it that common?
Speaker 2:it's very common, it is very common, I don't know I don't really get it.
Speaker 3:Sites are such a thing't I don't really get his sights are such a thing yeah, I don't really get feet like I don't really understand. It's yucky to me you're fine, I guess, like they're not as bad as kneecaps. Kneecaps fucking suck, they blow. I hate, but like knees look weird. I don't like knees. Of all the things, of all the human body parts, I don't like knees the most. I have the dis, most dislike of knees I, I literally did a video.
Speaker 1:I did a video where I was like, oh, like it's a fake skit, where I'm talking to myself and I'm like, oh, we need to figure out the next insecurity and I'm literally like wrinkly knees, wrinkly knees, I don't like knees man. There's something about the shape. I don't like them. I don't like about the shape of them. Liam was in charge of that.
Speaker 3:I don't like them.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's a part of the human body that I'm so like About.
Speaker 2:For those who want to Apply for Liam's thruple Make sure your knees are covered. Given all the dating tips, don't have like the worst knees.
Speaker 1:What makes?
Speaker 3:Bad knees. What makes a bad knee? Disproportions maybe, like you know, where you just have like a huge kneecap and then like everything else is just like not, it's it. The proportions are off.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm gonna say how much time have you spent like looking at people's knees to? Be more than I'd like to admit I'd like okay to me the the feet thing.
Speaker 3:I don't think feet are ugly or anything but like what's the least attractive body part besides the penis? Obviously like that's both balls, I mean. Yeah, those things are freaking ugly there's just like balls are just gross looking. Like there's no getting around that, like we're not. We're not talking genitals here, just other than that there's a reason. Other species like retract yes, they have, so that we don't have to see them all the time.
Speaker 3:Just have the testicles in the body. They've decided we will just hold those in place and it's fine. Humans are like no, we just let that shit hang okay, you know what's weird?
Speaker 1:I guess I I can see what you're saying because, like the only thing that comes to mind to be like unattractive would be like knees or elbows, knees and elbows.
Speaker 3:Right, that's what I'm saying. The joints, the knees and elbows, like elbows, aren't as bad because they don't have like a cap on them.
Speaker 1:I don't mind that no, but like when you're like this and it's like all like wrinkly and stuff.
Speaker 3:I guess that's true, like it has, that it's got to be able to contract and expand. It almost has the dick skin thing going on, but it's just unattractive. You know what I'm saying? It just hangs. Knees and elbows, I'm telling you, are the least attractive parts of the body Besides genitals, Obviously besides genitals aside yeah.
Speaker 1:Besides like obviously besides, genitals aside, yeah, yeah, I can't. Oh, I was going to say the feet thing. To me it's just gross because they get stinky.
Speaker 3:And they get and like they get, really, they're always in shoes, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, I'm like.
Speaker 3:Are you walking barefoot through your house?
Speaker 1:One of the things. One of the things on their story was literally like I want to suck someone's toes after the gym and I was like I'm like, I'm like I don't even like to like get frisky after the gym. I want to shower. I'm like, I don't like it was really sweaty like that's like an you're literally like go suck a toe like he.
Speaker 3:Why would you listen? It's fucking like 10 pm here. We've been recording for almost two hours like it's just gonna devolve more and more.
Speaker 1:To be fair, no, we said we sat here for like 30 minutes while you yeah, we were handling oakley and I'm trying to fucking get my life's a fucking wreck and my life it's just.
Speaker 3:Everything's just to devolve worse and worse, more into id the more time goes on.
Speaker 1:More into id, oh in moderation, super ego.
Speaker 3:Oh wait, you remember oh. So that your id is like it's like your base, like your brain said like oh, sex, sleep, food, you know like deteriorate, yeah, like you're no higher.
Speaker 1:No, your higher learning cut off, it was just your id yeah, that makes sense so yeah I wasn't sure if that was, but at least everybody got plenty of dating tips for alex tonight I don't know why that's been a thing that was that's become. That's become a topic of conversation.
Speaker 2:In our group for some reason, and I don't know why, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was like okay you guys are meeting more of the fitness people. You guys can play matchmaker. And then suddenly it was like, oh, alex is dating people and I'm like Great, I'm just moving the conversation away from me from you? Oh, do they talk about you dating people? You did no I didn't you made that joke?
Speaker 2:oh, I made a pussy joke, it's fine, so I made one conversation away from me back to you I made one joke, one meanwhile my dating life has come up probably like five times in this, it's come up like that's how effective I was come up like five times in our group chat I'm like I don't know why it's so popular that's how effective I was.
Speaker 2:The instant you did that, I was like oh hell, no, this is going back to alex it was one joke, it was harmless. I literally was like I think it was you, you found your cat and I was like great. Now I hope you's fucking good so you can't pass those up what did you say?
Speaker 3:so you can't pass those up. When you see an opportunity like that, you have to go, yeah thank you see, mine are just jokes.
Speaker 1:Y'all are being like dead serious about my dating life and I'm like it's not that, it's not that serious it's not that serious no, listen.
Speaker 3:You said you were attracted to, like the, the.
Speaker 1:You know the enemies, friends, and I'm interested, that was you just said you like that and I'm like I said, I like it in books okay, I I'm just I've never heard.
Speaker 3:I'm like I don't understand that. So I'm curious and I want to know like, what is you know, uh, what is uh attractive about this? Not attractive?
Speaker 1:it's only in books. In real life it's not attractive to be a douche.
Speaker 3:Be a kind person but in books it can be a little bit in books wow, if you're listening and you're in a book.
Speaker 1:Be a dick be just like the biggest dick. It's different though oh fuck, all the authors listening, taking notes I legitimately think that there are some guys out there who think that that's how it works, like if I'm just mean to this woman, like because they never graduated from second grade. And then they were just like, if I'm mean and I poke the bear, then like, like, that's how I'm going to show them that I love them and I'm going to, that's how I'm flirting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're 100% right, 100% right.
Speaker 1:Liam's like. That's why the standards are on the floor. Standards.
Speaker 3:I love low standards. I'm just going to be honest With everything. I'm not talking like just anything. Just have your standards low so you always supersede them and then you feel better you do. It's facts. I like it, it's the same. Just give it a try. Don't knock it until you try it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Keep the standards low when you try it.
Speaker 2:Stop reading billions of scientific papers and just say no, just say no.
Speaker 3:Just say no, it's so good, I love it.
Speaker 1:I'm depressed now. Why are you depressed now? We literally just said it.
Speaker 3:Because he's realizing how much time no one cares about it.
Speaker 1:No one cares.
Speaker 3:They just want to hear Scotty say no, so good, so good.
Speaker 1:Is that?
Speaker 2:why you put Scotty in the background of your video. Oh, that one with scotty in the picture yeah that was a picture scotty took of me like he was sitting on the sofa and I was like in the background leaning back a foot rest, and he did a selfie. But of course the only thing you see is scotty in the in the frame, except for, like right, briefly, when I slide in. That's when you can actually see me in there.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm not sad about mentioning missing twitch con you're just sad about missing TwitchCon. You're just sad about that you didn't get to hang out with all of us. Yeah, we're trying to plan a Houston trip, liam. You're not invited because you have too much life going on, but we'll come visit you in Ohio.
Speaker 3:Listen, I will eventually come and visit things and do stuff. Okay, my life is just a disaster right now.
Speaker 1:That's fair. We can all come. We can all come to Ohio and we can babysit Oakley. There you go.
Speaker 3:Come visit Ohio just to watch my daughter. For me.
Speaker 1:Wouldn't that be nice.
Speaker 2:How hard is that you and April can go have a date night?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we saw Beetlejuice 2, the other night, did you like it? It was what you expect I guess.
Speaker 2:Okay that's fair.
Speaker 3:It's nothing like oh, that's so good, but they did that thing where they try and put like 20 main characters in and you're like brah brah brah, you got like an hour and a half. You need to reel this shit in, dial it down.
Speaker 1:You need to reel this shit in, dial it down.
Speaker 3:You're trying to give character arcs to character arcs to character arcs for all these different characters. Like you, can't do it in this short time. You know Beetlejuice is the main character.
Speaker 1:All right, let's focus on him a little bit. Yeah, I have low expectations for the new Joker movie.
Speaker 3:I've heard not great things about it already which makes me sad. But if you have low expectations and you go in and you see it, I know and it's gonna be great and it's average, then it's good. Yeah, are we good? No, I think we were good a lot. I think we were good a while ago. We just kept going past.
Speaker 1:Good yeah we just kept exceeding expectations.
