In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
Saeji Unlocks Gen Z Lingo and Social Media Fear (while non-stop talking about her friends)
What if the secret to understanding Gen Z lingo was just an 18-year-old's perspective away? Join us as we sit down with Saeji, our youngest ever guest, to decode the mysterious term "Sigma" and explore its intriguing role in both personality archetypes and internet memes. With a mix of humor and insightful observations, we reflect on generational differences and the rapid evolution of cultural trends. Saeji's youthful outlook reminds us all of the joy in life's simpler pleasures before the weight of adult responsibilities sets in. This segment captures the essence of our show with candid conversations and relatable experiences.
Switching gears, we venture into the realm of workplace communication, uncovering strategies that enhance team collaboration. Discover the power of active listening, clear messaging, and the subtle art of non-verbal cues as we share engaging anecdotes and expert insights. We tackle common communication barriers and provide solutions that ensure every team member feels valued. Packed with practical tips, this discussion aims to refine workplace dynamics and foster an inclusive, productive environment. Tune in to unlock the keys to navigating the complexities of modern communication with ease and success.
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Sigma, sigma on the wall. Who's the rizziest of them all? Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. The dragon warrior it's me.
Speaker 2:Dragon warrior what? Hey, hey, can I ask a question? Go ahead, what the fuck is Sigma? The fuck Like I keep seeing this term and I'm like I don't even understand. Is this like an alpha beta sigma, like delta?
Speaker 1:stan, is this like an alpha beta sigma, like delta? It's? It's just, yeah, yeah, just it's what I?
Speaker 2:it's brain rot. Don't worry about it. Okay, just don't. I mean, I'm good at not worrying about things, but I did want to know, I know there's two.
Speaker 3:I think there's two versions of sigma, because there's sigma, the, the alpha beta sigma and sigma is supposed to be the thing where you're like you don't follow anything, okay and then, and then. I think there's Sigma, the meme which probably came from somewhere, somewhere, and people are just saying Sigma.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just opened an entire brain rot discussion. Let's, let's, let's move past this.
Speaker 2:You're using all this gen X or not Gen X fucking Gen Z lingo that I don't even know if there's brain rot now, like I can't keep up with the fucking trends. Man, I don't know, I'm fucking. I just turned 33 years old and I I've already been an old man since I was young, but like I've really come to embrace it and I enjoy it immensely oh well, yeah, I'm the exact opposite from you.
Speaker 1:I'm, I'm 18, I'm gonna turn 19 in like three months, and people say that I'm still like a middle schooler at heart.
Speaker 2:So and hey, listen, do that, live up, be, let me tell you, anybody out there is younger. Live that shit up and just enjoy it, because you're gonna fuck up and just I feel like just kind of eventually you're gonna have kids and you're never gonna sleep again yeah, like there's time for all the fucking misery later on.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, like I was in my I married my high school sweetheart and we were together for 10 years. So like after we broke up at like 28, I had like this you know, okay, I've only got a couple years left in my 20s, let me try and like live this up like I had to go through the whole like 20 year old thing in just that span. So like be, be fucking young and just do your shit.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, my God, are you going to introduce me, or are you?
Speaker 3:going to do the whole opening. Oh, look at her wanting to be introduced. You're supposed to introduce yourself. That's the thing we suck at introducing.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:It's a whole thing. So why don't you introduce yourself?
Speaker 1:whole thing. So why don't you introduce yourself? All right, here we go. Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode. My name is Seiji and I am here as the very first mentoree on the in moderation podcast it also makes you the youngest person on the podcast the youngest person on the podcast, that's me, because I'm 18. I'm turning 19 in january, so still they heard that part yeah, yeah, they're, they're.
Speaker 2:I mean hopefully people, their intention span isn't that tuned out yet so you're good okay you're good people are coming from tiktok and shit to listen to this, but you know, I think they can manage they might swipe away after 10 seconds. Oh no, I think it's down to 7 seconds now.
Speaker 1:Probably less than that, I'm not gonna lie. But yeah, maybe I should redo that intro.
Speaker 3:What? No, we just roll with it.
Speaker 1:Roll with it, okay.
Speaker 3:Dad, you don't listen to the podcast, do you no, just?
Speaker 2:automatically. I don't listen to this fucking shit. You're 18 years old. You're gonna listen to something that's an hour long? Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3:That's so true, so true.
Speaker 1:Now what.
Speaker 2:This is your guess, rob, like I'm letting you do things, I'm here, I am. I am awaiting anything, but, like you, you take it. You got this bud, you two together. I believe in you. No, you don't, it's not important.
Speaker 1:Oh, what no I believe you.
Speaker 3:So yeah. So we here at In Moderation like to do things a little differently. People may have noticed. So instead of hiring some big ass million follower, fancy athlete, athlete to hawk our wares for us, we're just going to recruit young kids and throw some shirts at them and be like hey, no.
Speaker 2:Should we put that on the poster? Rob In moderation, recruiting young kids since 2024.
Speaker 1:Are you?
Speaker 3:a young kid, no other.
Speaker 2:How many children can we get our?
Speaker 3:hands on Exploration. Exploration is wild, cancel. Well, your career lasted a whole day.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 3:Best day of my life. Have a good one, guys, but no, a whole day awesome. Best day of my life. Have a good run, guys. Um, but no. Liam and I have decided that, uh, what we want to do is find some new creators that want to make content, make a difference and mentor them, and so this one's mine.
Speaker 1:Hee, hee.
Speaker 3:This one's mine. I might be regretting this choice at this point, but um you know, you'll eventually get Liam's, but in the meantime you're stuck with mine.
Speaker 1:Dude, you know, honestly speaking, like I could be your kid, like aren't you like 40?
Speaker 2:Oh no, speaking like I could be your kid like that's fucking great. I will skip gen z this. They know how to roast people. They're really good at that. I, I, if I there's a lot of things I'll take away from gen z, but I will give them. Roasting people is is very they're very good at that she's also good at swearing at me.
Speaker 1:I took her to the gym today and every other word out of her mouth was fuck you, rob, oh yeah we filmed my very first uh gym reel, or like just video in general, that I'm gonna put on tiktok and instagram. It's basically a 20 second compilation of me saying fuck you, rob, because he put me on leg day so, oh okay, yeah, good profanity, always gonna be sure you're anywhere already in liam's already like yeah, yeah there we go, awesome sauce
Speaker 2:the complete opposite of rob I like, instead of saying like fuck, yeah, you go, awesome sauce, like I'm not gonna swear to the them saying profanity, my profanity is good oh my gosh, I'm I'm known for like silly and stupid catchphrases, so like awesome sauce.
Speaker 1:When I say bye to my friends, I say toodaloo, or like I give horrible nicknames to the people closest to me, my dad. His contact name in my phone is get ready for it, portable toaster. That's what I refer to, my dad as portable toaster. So you can kind of get the gist of like how, how things like vocabulary I know why.
Speaker 2:Or should we just leave it at that?
Speaker 1:um, so my dad even though my mom likes to dog on my dad for his cooking my dad makes the best sandwiches in the entire world, so whenever I'm having like a bad day or just like anything in general, my dad serves like a beautiful homemade sandwich, just like right in front of my eyes and he's like enjoy, and so hence, yeah, portable toast.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever met someone that I could guess their age more just from what they say. Right, Not even no looks, or anything If you just put like what you said down on paper, like this person's absolutely a teenager.
Speaker 3:Thanks, but what caught me there was she said she gives the people she likes weird names. You didn't give me a weird name. That means you don't like me.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I call you Viking man.
Speaker 3:That's not weird.
Speaker 1:No, I religiously call him Viking man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's normal, so it's not a weird name. You don't like me, she doesn't like me. I'm regretting my choice. Should I leave you?
Speaker 2:two to your arguments, or should?
Speaker 1:we continue on. I'm fine doing whatever. Let Let me take a good look at your face and let me think of something.
Speaker 2:Okay, you do that. A podcast is a great time to do this.
Speaker 1:Yes, let's do that.
Speaker 2:Let's do a visual thing on a podcast yeah, all of this has made total sense so far.
Speaker 3:It has, hasn't it? Well, in the meantime, why don't you tell us why you're getting into fitness?
Speaker 1:Okay, oh gosh, are we sure? All right, anyways, so well, the entire reason why I had gotten into fitness in the first place is probably one of the most common reasons Yep, it is. I can confirm that it's the most common reason which was to attempt to get over my big heartbreak because I had just gotten out of a really, really serious relationship. And the first day that I went to my gym I was driving around with my dad and I asked my dad hey, dad, there's a gym right there, could we please stop so that I can go in and like ask about prices and stuff like that? And he was like okay, I will wait in the car. And I was like okay, thank you, portable toaster. So I opened the door and I trot my merry way into the gym and I don't even get past the front door and I already have tears running down my face. So I walk into my local gym and the receptionist looks up at me and she just sees mascara streaks down my face and she goes Are you emo.
Speaker 3:No, no, oh, bitch For those listening. That was her hitting me.
Speaker 2:I think people picked up on that from the slapping, but yes, so she was like, do you need assistance?
Speaker 1:And I was like, how can I get a gym membership? And she didn't even say anything. She just pointed to the guy sitting at the desk and I was like, okay, so I trot up to the guy at the desk, he's writing on a piece of paper and I go excuse me that he looks up and has just wide eyes with horror, because now there's not two mascara streaks running down my face, there's three mascara streaks running down my face.
Speaker 3:now You've increased the amount of mascara streaks.
Speaker 1:And so I'm like I just got my heart broken. I need to come back to the gym right now. And he was like don't say another word, sit your ass down and let's deal with this right now. And I remember I was so happy because I got an insanely, insanely good deal, because normally, like at normal gyms, right, you pay like 60 bucks to like activate your membership, and then it's like like what, 20, 30 a month to continue or something like that it depends.
Speaker 2:A lot of times with gyms there's an upfront fee and then depends on how much my upfront fee was two dollars.
Speaker 1:The guy gave me the fucking membership to start off for two dollars and I was like yo bro, this, this is a sign that it's time for me to that.
Speaker 3:I need to get some mascara and start crying next time I go to the gym.
Speaker 1:No, this is a sign that it's time for me to actually start locking it, basically. And so that was day one of my entire little fitness journey, and so I started going basically every single day, day and I started working on like things here and there and stuff like that, and the thing is that I didn't know what I was doing basically. So I would essentially go into the gym, find something that I thought looks cool, do it for like two minutes, be like okay, let me look at myself in the mirror.
Speaker 3:Wow, my muscles she already knew to look at herself in the mirror. Time to go home.
Speaker 2:Most important part I think that's really all most people know when they go to the gym. It's like you look at yourself in the mirror, you flex and then you go home so, yeah, that's, that's basically what I did.
Speaker 1:I would pick up something like two dumbbells and I would go one, two, three, four five. One, two, three, four, five. All right, I look awesome, let's go home. I want to play League of Legends, you know. So I'm like. And then, yeah, that went on for like 10 months, basically on and off, ish. And then after that I met rob over here at twitch con and then I was like wait, you guys are fitness content creators. And he was like yeah, and I was like whoa, and then conversations struck up which led to planning of this event.
Speaker 3:And then here I am now I'm glad you skipped over all the drama.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, the drama at TwitchCon was crazy sauce we did a drug deal.
Speaker 3:That's what.
Speaker 1:We did, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally, guys, we did, we did my bad, my bad, my bad.
Speaker 3:I was a little silly right there. Dog the memory. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're cool yeah, we're cool. Yeah, we're cool yeah, yeah, I'm just chilling over here, I mean that's, oh, that's, that's awesome yeah, this episode is has also been the quietest liam's ever been I can tell I, yeah, I don't I I had no direction going into this and I'm just kind of along for the ride, along with the listeners. I'm like one of the listeners right now all you have to do is give her a prompt and she'll talk your ear off.
Speaker 3:Oh, basically, yeah, I like talking he right so now, now you have to, you get to ask us things you want to learn oh, I have to ask you guys, you can, you can ask us?
Speaker 1:you got us right here okay, you, you can you can do questions. How long have you been growing that?
Speaker 3:son of a bitch I'm sorry as long as you've been alive? Actually, no, Okay, no you're older than my beard.
Speaker 1:I'm older than your beard. You're older than my beard. How old is your beard?
Speaker 3:About 15.
Speaker 1:Does it have a birthday?
Speaker 3:That legit. No one has ever asked me that.
Speaker 1:Guys, guys, guys. You know what we have now. We are going to pick a date for, oh my God, we're going to have a birthday party. Happy beard day. Happy beard day, dude. We're going to have a birthday party for your beard. I'm going to put like a little bow tie on it right here and stuff like that, that's it.
Speaker 3:I put more than that on Christmas.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember the Christmas lights.
Speaker 1:That was a good idea oh wait, I just thought of a really good horrible nickname for you. You ready? Oh god ginger santa claus ginger santa yes, oh, my gosh ginger santa claus ginger santa claus ginger santa ginger, let's go back to Viking. Man Alright.
Speaker 3:Viking man.
Speaker 1:Liam, I can't help but notice the concern on your face.
Speaker 2:The concern wouldn't be the correct word, I think in this situation, bafflement, a little bit of confusion. I don't know those sorts of things mixed together, I see.
Speaker 3:Corey, if you're listening, I blame this on you. No, I love Corey.
Speaker 1:Corey, if you're listening, I blame this on you. No, I love Corey, Corey, Corey.
Speaker 2:Corey.
Speaker 1:Wonder man, corey, wonder man, dude. He was the one that basically brought us together, because at TwitchCon I was hanging out with Corey and then after that Corey introduced me to Viking man, and then after that Viking man introduced me to Scotty and Johan and everybody else, and then after that it just kept on spiraling and spiraling from there.
Speaker 3:She had a thing and TwitchCon was kind of going bad for her and I was like, okay, yeah, twitchcon was actually horrible for me.
Speaker 1:I have a lot of really bad stories.
Speaker 3:She was at a bad time and I was like, okay, yeah, twitch con was actually horrible for me. I have a lot of stories. She was a bad time. And I was like, okay, guess what, you're my plus one. Come on, you're hanging out with the cool kids and she got to meet everybody and now I'm stuck with her yeah yeah, liam, okay, hi what's up with the soul?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry what the sigma? All right, my bad well, you asked me about the beard okay, but like okay, hmm, I'm, I know I have like I have a lot of friends that are like familiar with your content and stuff like that I like how she has the opportunity to ask us anything related to health and fitness, and I I love my friends. I will talk about my friends at any given opportunity that I can.
Speaker 2:Just like any 18 year old should, and yeah, but oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I have a lot of friends that are like really big fans of you and stuff like that. However, I am not entirely familiar with your content, which is going to change today, now that you know I'm on the podcast and stuff like that at least she's honest do you, can I get some backstory on the plant slant, like why are you called the plant slant?
Speaker 2:okay, yes, that's fine, the plant slant comes from the blue zones I've I have talked about this before places in the world where people live into their 90s, 100s. There was a recent report that came out saying that a lot of people in these areas are lying about their age, which makes total sense, right, because you know, about 100 years ago records weren't the most, uh, accurate. So people would just be like, yeah, I'm way older than I am, and then you have a bunch of people who are old, but not quite as old as they say, but any who's. It's essentially there's a five blue zones sardinia, italy, icaria, greece, okinawa, japan, loma linda, california, and one in costa rica. Uh, where people live and to you know like older age, let's just put it that way and their diets, uh, I think only one is vegetarian loma linda, california. They are.
Speaker 2:They are the largest gathering of seven day adventists, which are a very interesting group of people, but anyway, they also don't eat meat. I think they're the only ones. All the other ones do. They just eat it in, basically how we eat vegetables in america, kind of a little bit here and there. So, yeah, so their diets are focused or slanted towards whole plant food. So I was like, yeah, that sounds like fun. It seems like it would go well on a bumper sticker. Which is all I've really wanted in my life is for my name to be on people's bumper stickers.
Speaker 1:I see, and, of course, like every good human should want, and uh, in the store yeah, I was just about to say why don't you, why don't you make that part of like the merch or something like that?
Speaker 2:I'd put it on my car listen, I don't know why I do anything, so you know that's.
Speaker 1:You shouldn't be coming soon to in moderationnet oh my gosh the plant slant bumper that would be so cool. Actually, my car would be the first one with the bumper sticker.
Speaker 2:There we go. I feel like with bumper stickers, you need zero or you need 37. And there is no in between Having one bumper sticker, which now I think about I might only have one, but I need to get a lot more. I feel like you need to fucking commit to some shit like that.
Speaker 2:You need to be the bumper sticker guy or gal that people are like what is going on there, or you're just covering up a bunch of holes and shit because yeah I mean we've got, we've got the don't be your worst, we've got the.
Speaker 3:Uh, I think the bananas in sticker form, the eat a banana one yeah, thanks we just slap some of those on your car, in your car, yes, my car, all the car, everybody's car. Go get some stickers, people.
Speaker 1:I love my car so much, yo wait. Oh my gosh, my car is the goat. You guys don't understand, okay?
Speaker 3:so I do understand.
Speaker 1:I've been in it he has been in my car, so I drive a 2004 honda odyssey, so it's a silly little minivan and welcome to in minivans yes, the best part about it?
Speaker 1:right, it's a seven little minivan. Welcome to In Minivans. Yes, the best part about it? Right, it's a seven-seater. But you can take out five of the seats, which is exactly what I did, and I took out five of the seats in the back and I replaced it with a six-foot-long mattress. And bless the motherfucking minivan's heart. It is so much fun to bring on road trips and to kidnap people. No, I'm just kidding, I wouldn't kidnap anybody.
Speaker 3:But I'm just thinking. I guess I did willingly go with you.
Speaker 1:He did yeah you did willingly go with me when we were at twitch con. I was basically like the uber driver. I was driving cory to his, to his airbnb, to twitch con, airbnb, twitch con, airbnb, twitch con. And I did that, like what? Seven or eight times and that's also how I met rob, by driving to the airbnb, and at one point I had these two. I'm not gonna get arrested for saying this on air, am I? Of course you are Okay. Well, I already committed, but I had these two in the back of my car laying down on the mattress.
Speaker 3:Not like that, not like that.
Speaker 1:Not like that, but laying in the back on the mattress while we were going bumper to bumper in the horrid San Diego traffic and we were yo, we were blasting fucking. What were we blasting? Opa, Gangnam Style yo, that was actually so much fun. Yeah, Actually, listening to myself talk. Maybe I am 18 years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just a little bit. So back to fitness. Back to fitness. I'm not going to get. Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 1:That's very good. So back to fitness. Back to fitness. I'm not going to get a ticket at my front door.
Speaker 3:You absolutely are. Am I actually You're fucked? Am I actually?
Speaker 1:You're fucked, wait, hold on.
Speaker 3:So I'm just sending this to the police down in wherever.
Speaker 1:You don't know where I live. You don't know where I live.
Speaker 2:Somewhere. I don't care, let's do it. Okay, continuing on. Yeah, so that's how I came up with that name, and so, but most people mostly people just call me Liam because that is my, you know parents, not God-given A God-given name. Do people say that it's like your God-given name is like the one your parents gave you, right? Why?
Speaker 1:do you say God-given name?
Speaker 2:Government, officiated government. It's not a government like mandated name. The government doesn't be like you're born, you're a jeremy, get the, get in fucking line. You know what I'm saying? Like. So it's like, why do we say so? Your god-given name, is that just your last name? I don't understand.
Speaker 3:I don't know birth name understand, I don't know birth name. Birth name yeah, let's go with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I found somebody who, like, goes off the rails even more than liam.
Speaker 2:Yay, yay, I think liam's enjoying the vacation listen, I'm I'm more than happy just to just to chill here and let other people you know uh rant about whatever they feel. Like.
Speaker 1:That's, that's fine any other topics you want to hear me yap my head off about for the next 10 minutes um, you know what?
Speaker 2:how about? How about your, uh, your lingos? You know, your, your gen z's? You're always talking about like shit. I don't fucking understand and none of it makes any sense.
Speaker 1:But well, okay, the the brain rot honestly started out as a joke because, you know, I saw everybody like I saw the fucking um, what the sigma on tiktok and I was like yo, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard, I'm never going to say. And then my friends at that time around me started saying it as a joke. And then I started saying it as a joke and then it got to a point when I stopped myself and I was like wait, this isn't really a joke anymore.
Speaker 2:And so I unfortunately say what the Sigma unironically which a lot of people don of people don't think. A lot of things start off with like we're gonna do this ironically, and then you just kind of keep going and pushing and pushing it. Like you know, when you have two dudes and they keep trying to one-up each other with how gay they can be, and eventually you just sleep together. That's just how it works. You end up waking up and you're like, oh shit, we just took it all the way.
Speaker 1:And they're like, no, homo, no homo, and then they keep moving. Question is this speaking from personal experience.
Speaker 2:Listen, I know, I just I don't pretend, I just go straight for it. There's none of this, like you know, pretending or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's no one-upmanship. It's just get it in the hole, Get it over with Okay.
Speaker 3:Wild sauce first of all.
Speaker 2:Well, so our over 40 audience just dropped, but our 18-year-old audience and our homosexual audience just went through the roof. If you have your list, I'd have to put Ryanyan reynolds still first. Like on that. Like the dude's just like a sexy beast, like there's. There's no way around it, but like I feel like there's definitely some other people on there for sure yes yes I like I legit have never thought about.
Speaker 3:I'm gynosexual, so I'm literally only interested in femininity. Yeah.
Speaker 2:See, for me, I like a good masculine, more of a masculine man. There's guys that like more feminine men, but I like my guy just kind of a little more on the masculine side.
Speaker 3:I gotta say Sorry, guys, if you want to get with me, you better put a damn of more, a little more on the masculine side. I gotta say no, sorry guys, if you want to get with me, you better put a damn good dress on.
Speaker 1:I like feminine men.
Speaker 3:Do your nails up. You know, get the hair up in a bun. Interesting, there we go. Interesting yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm more of like, you know, like a Henry Cavill, like that dude, that's just like a sexy dude right there, like there's no one that doesn't find Henry Cavill sexy, right, he's Superman, he's other things, I don't know. Oh yeah, he was a witcher. Yeah, what's that Witcher? Yeah, gerald, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you know who Rob and I were talking about in the car today. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:James Bond bond, my beloved bro.
Speaker 1:He's the fictional character, or someone who has played james bond, the fictional character, just the character james bond in general, like there is a reason why probably the movie james bond.
Speaker 2:James bond she doesn't know what a novel is, so I would assume what's that?
Speaker 1:what's that supposed? Hey, I enjoy reading hey, back in my youth.
Speaker 2:Okay, Back in my youth, which is now correct. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, but Okay. So I think I don't need to further explain the whole reading part besides saying I'm part Chinese, so I was in. A lot of academics, a lot of reading Might. I brag, I got a perfect 5 on the AP Lang test. That's right.
Speaker 2:Can you speak Mandarin?
Speaker 1:Huh, can you speak Chinese A?
Speaker 2:little bit.
Speaker 1:What Wait? I can't.
Speaker 2:Really, I took Chinese in high school for a few years and you know, I took, like, did like pimsleur for like a little while and just kind of like learned the basic phrases and then I eventually kind of gave up on it. I'll be honest, because learning a tonal language when you come from a non-tonal, originally from a non-tonal language, it's very difficult. It is. I found it to be incredible, like just trying to understand with all the different. When you come from a non-tonal, originally from a non-tonal language, it's very difficult.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:I found it to be incredible, like just trying to understand with all the different tones, Like a word for anybody listening. Like a word can mean like four different things depending on how you say it, and then how it fits in with other words will also affect what the word is, and it's just you know, I just got frustrated. This means they can now insult me behind my back. Fuck, I don't know any good insults in Chinese.
Speaker 3:That was the nice thing about growing up in Canada is you're forced to learn at least a little bit of French, so you get a little bit of that immersion, and so it's a little easier to pick up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, french, I think, just sticking with the Latin-based languages. I started doing German and that was a lot easier. Just because it's all based in Latin, it makes it much easier.
Speaker 1:My dad. He's Romanian and so, since Romanian it's part of the Latin root base, it was very, very easy for him to pick up other languages that are also in the Latin root base. So, my dad speaks six languages, which I think is wild sauce.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. He's a polyglot Polyglot.
Speaker 1:Polyglot.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love my dad, if my dad is listening. I love you dad.
Speaker 3:You know he's going to listen.
Speaker 1:He's going to listen. I love you so much, dad. You're awesome.
Speaker 2:I love you too, I love you too, toaster man Shout out to you Toaster man.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the portable toaster bro.
Speaker 3:How can I help you?
Speaker 1:portable toaster no that's actually how I answer every single call, like I'll be in the car, like with my friends and stuff like that, and my dad will call, right, and then I'll pick up the phone and I'll be like hello there. Portable toaster. I am with my friends. Love my dad, I love my dad. It's impossible to not love my dad. He's just, he's just awesome that's great, you know.
Speaker 2:It sucks when you know you hate your family or something like.
Speaker 1:That's not fun yeah, that was me for a very long time and obviously there's still some like unresolved, like holes, but overall holes is also our other other podcasts that we do besides in moderation oh well, guess where I'm going next welcome to.
Speaker 2:I don't even remember unresolved holes, episode 69 oh yeah, baby, yeah, I did not do that.
Speaker 3:No, I did what?
Speaker 1:okay, moving on I'm the innocent one you and innocent don't go in the same sentence.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry. Are you embarrassed yet?
Speaker 1:Why would I be embarrassed?
Speaker 3:Because you're being seen with us.
Speaker 2:Can I say embarrassment's like the stupidest fucking thing ever. Like I get it. Like when I was young, when I was actually younger, when I was in like high school and shit, I remember, you know, I'd be so terrified To like go up in front of the class Like I would have like a piece of paper reading from, and by the end of it my hands hurt because I was grasping the piece of paper so hard, just like sweating everything.
Speaker 2:And now, like I don't give a fuck, like you get once, you just let go and you're just like yeah, people aren't going to like you, or people are going to have problems. Like, fuck them. Who gives a shit? Like, yeah, let. Though are you gonna let other people's opinion make your life worse, because that's the only way it's going to make your life worse is if you let it. Oh, exactly like what's the point of being embarrassed, like, fuck it, I'll do whatever. I don't give a shit. I'll do whatever. I'll be butt ass naked, doesn't matter, just oh fuck whatever. Who gives a shit?
Speaker 3:pink booty shorts, I'll wear whatever also available on in moderationnet. I'll wear some stupid ass costume or whatever ridiculousness, I don't fucking care but on that topic, uh, one of the things she was actually worried about was haters oh my god.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I'm not. I'm not scared of embarrassing myself, but I'm really really, really, really terrified of people not liking me for some reason. Why? Because yeah I've been. I've been a people pleaser my entire entire life and then the moment somebody is like, yeah, I don't fuck with you, I actually kind of hate you and I think you're ugly automatically I'm like yo, maybe tonight's tonight, maybe maybe it's tonight, maybe today's my last day here.
Speaker 2:You know I'm not that serious, but you get what I mean I will tell you when you start off, it's's normal to be like I want people to like me, but you have to realize you could make videos solely saying love thy neighbor and be kind to others and people will be like fuck your mother and I hope you die. Like that's just the internet. It does. It literally doesn't matter. And so when I started off, yeah, like I get that you want, it literally doesn't matter. And so when I started off, yeah, like I get that you want. You know you want people like you. But like I'm here for the people that want help and enjoy my content.
Speaker 2:If other people don't like that, I hope they continue to comment and watch my videos and tell me how much they hate me, because that boosts the algorithm just as much as the people who like me does. So you know, like fuck it what I. I really you have it's. I can't give you like some advice. Be like oh, that's now I get it, now I'll just let go. But like you have to just throw yourself out there and try and be like fuck, like who fuck them?
Speaker 3:like a lot of those, a lot of those haters that are commenting are like the well, the lower end of the list. You know, like frick.
Speaker 3:I got one guy on instagram right now. I, I. He's just so stupid. He doesn't know. He's stupid, right, shout out to him. I told him that he's restricted. I put him in restricted because you're like you can't even embarrass him off the internet. He's so stupid. I told him that I put him in restricted mode. No one else can see his comments. Yes, he still responds to everybody. I'm like dude, you're restricted.
Speaker 2:Nobody can see your responses I didn't even know you could do that.
Speaker 3:That's interesting yeah, I'm gonna start doing that. And it's great because he, like he's, he's still watching the videos, he's still commenting on them. He just doesn't bother anybody.
Speaker 2:That's a going tool by instagram.
Speaker 2:That is a really good tool actually yeah, yeah, I think you just gotta lean into it. I enjoy it, like I do, like a whole reading my hate comments. Um, you know a playlist? I have that like it's just like I. I gotta have fun with it. Like life's about having fun and like they're.
Speaker 2:When people's lives are miserable, it's much easier for them just to try and bring you down to their level. That's really their only way of of seeking enjoyment. So, and that's and total like, go ahead, please, you know, say whatever you want. Oh, no Little words on the screen. What will I ever do? I might just have to cry myself to sleep tonight. I don't give a fuck. I might just have to cry myself to sleep tonight. I don't give a fuck. Please, do you know, say whatever you like.
Speaker 2:It's totally, totally cool what I, you know, I've just, I've been, you know, blown away by. Like lately I've been meeting more people in person. People come up to me like, hey, I follow yourself on Instagram. It's helped me out, like so much. I really appreciate it. I had someone the other day who came up to me and was, like I started I went to go become a personal trainer because I was watching you and Scotty, I think she said as well. I was like that's fucking dope, like this is why I do this. It's for people who can get something positive out of it, and the haters like, have that Come along for the ride.
Speaker 1:If you want to hang out with me and just hate me the whole time, sure, oh, my God now oh my god, because, okay, so like last year, so 2023, march of 2023, so a year and a half ago, I had posted a tiktok with my now ex and it was one of those like really cute trends. It was to like a cute uh song by cigarettes after sex and it was basically this trend where the girl is like putting on lipstick on her face but she like smears it by accident a little bit and then the guy's hand like comes into frame and like wipes like it off of her lips and the camera pans to him with like kiss marks like all over his face and stuff like that. Just just something cutesy like that.
Speaker 2:You know, just like couple tiktoks kind of thing people are going to fucking come for your throat after that. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I learned that the hard way because I posted it and I was like LMAO, what's the worst? That's going to happen. I woke up the next morning to like 20,000 likes and the entire comment section was just oh my God, what am I doing wrong? He's so fine and she's so ugly. Siblings are dating Holy shit, I bet he would like me better instead. And I was terrorized by these TikTok girls for the next two months, with them sliding into his DMs being being like oh my god, you're so fine, you would like my tits better than hers. You should break up with her and get together with me. I bet you'd love to pound me and just shit like that.
Speaker 2:And then welcome to the internet and social media, that's moderation I like, and that's what I'll say. Doing it at 18, though, is rough, because I'm glad I started doing it in my like I don't know late 20s it was early 30s, even like I was very. I was pretty grounded at that point and I was like, yeah, fuck it what, it's fine, whatever, but like doing it as a teenager early 20s, it's gonna be tougher?
Speaker 3:yeah, it was it was.
Speaker 1:It was horrendous. Like my self-confidence during that time was non-existent, like I was gonna say plummeted down to like the core of the earth. But not even that like it, just it just vanished overnight. I'm gonna be so honest and like I, that video reached to like 850 000 views and like 120 000 likes and it was still like even like three months later. I was getting like, oh, she's ugly. Comments and I was like all right guys Cause like, okay, my, my best friends, right, my current best friends, bless their hearts, I love them so much. Like literally the other day I was, I was not feeling good and I was with my best friend in the car and I turned to Ronan, bless his heart, I love Ronan so much. I turned to Ronan and I'm like Ronan, do you think I'm ugly? And he just started laughing in my face and he was like oh, you don't want me to answer that. And I was like, oh, ronan, don't you you piece of? So? I don't, I don't mind. Like my best friends, like telling me to my face.
Speaker 3:Haha, you're ugly, fuck you. But it's like are you really somebody's friend?
Speaker 1:you don't know yeah but that's yeah very fair I just I don't know why it's like I am so like nervous about like the hate that I received before coming back, but in like a different form, when I'm like actually trying to like do something, and it's just, it's just like some little thing that's been like haunting me at the back of my mind.
Speaker 3:It is just, you know going back to what liam said about, uh, how he deals with it, when I the first time I ever painted my nails, it was it was the guy that does the cloth menstrual pads, do you know?
Speaker 2:little helper, something like that.
Speaker 3:I don't shout out to that guy. He wanted to paint his nails. And so josh coddle got a bunch of us to paint our nails with him, just to be like, hey, we're gonna do this with you. We know you're scared, so we're gonna do it together.
Speaker 3:And of course and of course you know all the uh, all the bigots on the internet came for me like oh, you're painting your nails, you're a faggot. And you know I could have been like fuck that, that's hurt, you know, scared, you know all that. It's like no, now I paint my nails just to like fuck with them. It's like fuck you guys, you, you want to hate this, go for it yeah, I just don't do it because it's extra work.
Speaker 3:I'm so glad listen, listen ladies, you know me, I put all the extra work in. I wanted the six hour long video. Oh yeah, all that too.
Speaker 2:But I want to give a shout out to the ladies and like all the extra work they do and they do for, like you know, they they do the hair, the makeup and the nails Listen, that's the work you put in is as commendable, because, like I fucking wake up and I'm like, oh, my hair is a little skew, now I have to move it a little bit. Oh, there we go, and then like I'm fucking out the door, like shaving is a big deal for me, and that's like I'm not doing anything. I'm just not doing anything else. So, you know, shout out that's. I think that's dope that you're doing that and spending money on it, cause that shit seems expensive as fuck.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is up with.
Speaker 2:Sephora, and why is everything $900?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy, holy shit.
Speaker 2:Gosh.
Speaker 1:No, because I um I to sephora to go and look for like some setting spray for like my makeup and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:She was like yeah, I definitely know what setting. Spray is definitely 100, so do I, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know exactly different brands like introduced to nail polish and chinalwa like yeah, for sure, oh my god, so okay.
Speaker 1:Setting spray is basically the spray that you spray on your face when you're done with makeup. What it does it?
Speaker 3:wasn't even close.
Speaker 1:I thought it was for hair no, no, it locks in like your makeup, so that so when you cry you don't get raccoon tears no, oh my god, you're talking to two way men here.
Speaker 2:We don't know let's change the subject yeah so shout out to that, because I ain't doing all that.
Speaker 1:I ain't doing all that stuff what else is there to talk about?
Speaker 3:like I said, you got us here. Do you have any questions for us?
Speaker 2:no, I also have like videos to edit and shit to do and fucking mice to catch in my basement. Those fuckers stealing my food they're stealing my food down there. My oats, they got to my oats, and now it's personal. I already have fucking three dogs. I don't need a cat on top. I got fish too. This is this.
Speaker 3:This it's I mean, I have a two year old. Well, no, I want to, I want to. Yeah, she just turned one.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and she she knows sleep. So she's does not sleep, and it's just it's, it's, it's, it's it's destroying your life.
Speaker 3:It's, it really is. Yep, I know. Me, and me and me and her are like yeah, yeah, I don't know sleep either, but yeah, I guess you don't really need to ask too many questions, since you literally have my number now true yeah I'll text you at like three in the morning and I'll be like hey, rob, can I give your beard a name?
Speaker 1:sincerely sage, it's got.
Speaker 3:Gotta give it a birthday first, come on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it needs a birthday first.
Speaker 2:I'm probably just gonna go drink some scissorp and then probably go to bed or whatever. Do the kids call it? Lean? Now I don't know what do they call it the? Name of it changes.
Speaker 1:What is lean? You don't know. Scissorp.
Speaker 3:She doesn't actually do that stuff Lean.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure lean is the more common term for alcohol mixed with NyQuil.
Speaker 1:What the fuck People do that.
Speaker 2:That's a very common yeah. There's like fucking. You know rap songs and all that shit. Alcohol it's generally called lean, but I like scissor better. Scissor is fun to say.
Speaker 1:I agree, say scissor right now. Scissor.
Speaker 2:Scissor that's a fun word Scissorp, scissorp.
Speaker 1:Like you know syrup, but it's scissorp, scissorp yo. No, hold on, I still can't get over it.
Speaker 2:People mix NyQuil NyQuil and alcohol. Yeah, why?
Speaker 1:Who discovered this Fucking drugs, bro? What's the thing with?
Speaker 3:the um the gallon of milk. You take the or not the? Gallon jug rather not the gallon of milk and you half alcohol, half like Gatorade or something Tommy was talking about it that's understandable.
Speaker 1:That's something that I drink it's also called purple drank.
Speaker 2:lean or purple drank is a polysubstance drink used as a recreational drug. It's mixing prescription grade cough or cold syrup containing an opioid drug and an anti-histamine drug with a soft drink, sometimes hard candy what the fuck?
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. My mind has just been like expanded.
Speaker 3:Hold on, oh, we're giving her ideas. I mean I mean, yeah, probably shouldn't be giving people ideas, guys.
Speaker 2:as a disclaimer don't drink purple drank or lean or scissor or whatever the fuck it is it's not a good idea to mix multiple drugs together.
Speaker 1:Oh my god ew wait, I, oh, my god, dude, I have to pinch my nose anytime. I have to take fucking cough syrup just to like get my sore throat to like. See, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:I love the taste of cough syrup. Like I love that cherry NyQuil taste. When I was younger, my dad would be like here, drink it quick. I'm like why? Because it's like it tastes terrible. Like what the fuck are you talking about? This tastes great. Luckily I never developed an addiction to it, but it was definitely possible. I mean, listen, I take it once in a while, but I'm not a big. It tastes great, though. Man, I fucking love. I love the taste of NyQuil.
Speaker 1:Okay, what is your opinion on cough drops then? What do you think about cough drops?
Speaker 2:I mean, they just kind of help soothe a sore throat a little bit, but they're not like actually healing it like the taste of it, like oh, just like the taste of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's basically like candy. But they're like, oh, it's medication. It depends on the, because the cough drops are obviously trying to do a bunch of things I don't need to find ways to get high.
Speaker 2:I'm friends with fucking teenage boys bro yeah, that's true yeah, don't do drugs, that is the official statement of in moderation. I honestly I was a really fucking like what's what? Do they call it straight edge or whatever? Oh my god loser loser, I think, was the term. I didn't, just I didn't. I never did any drugs, or I didn't start even drinking alcohol until I was in like late twenties.
Speaker 1:You have no idea, cause I was the goody two shoes kid my entire fucking childhood. The first time I drank alcohol was this summer, when I was in Japan. The first time I ever got high was like a month ago.
Speaker 3:Let's admit all this. I hope your dad knows about this already. My dad knows about this already.
Speaker 1:My dad knows about this already but no, cause literally the first time that I ever did these things was actually in like approximate time and it's like you know, damn bro, I got got, I got. I got ronan's stizzy hat right here. I've been wearing it to like the gym and I've been. Oh my god, I love, I love my friends so much. I love you guys. I love ronan, I love tyler, I love ben I think you mentioned that about 10.
Speaker 3:Oh, my god, you are such a teenager I love my friends so much.
Speaker 1:I wish they were in Canada too.
Speaker 3:She's in Canada, by the way, oh yeah, I'm in Canada with Rob.
Speaker 2:Let's mention that at the end of the podcast you might have got the hint from that when she hit me at the start of the episode.
Speaker 1:What else is there to talk about besides my heartbreak and my friends?
Speaker 3:As an 18 year old, Fucking nothing, because that is your life this is, this is where you go and start being like okay guys, this is where you follow me, watch my journey yeah, there you go, I'm gonna be super cool, got to plug yourself.
Speaker 1:Come on, plug yourself wow, thank you all so much for watching me on this podcast. My instagram is saeji007 s-a-e-j-i-0-0-7. Go check me out, go follow me, go look at my big, strong muscles and go watch me say fuck you, rob. At least 12 times in my latest video well, that's gonna get a lot of hits. It is, oh my god, it's gonna be so funny, legit.
Speaker 3:No she did. She did actually like the entire gym session there.
Speaker 1:Just fuck you, rob, because he maybe he made me do leg day and I hate leg day. I don't know why, but the end of the video I we were walking out after we were done taking photos and then I was like yo, you know what would be really, really funny because you know you tortured me with leg day. What if at the end of the video it was just like a two second like cut of just you, like like carrying me over your shoulder and like dragging me out of the gym, and he was like that's funny, we should do it. So the end of the video it's me slung over his shoulder and him kicking down the door of the gym and him like just carrying me out of the room.
Speaker 1:And I was like fuck hands, I'm just gonna use my leg it was so funny but you guys will see it in the video.
Speaker 3:Watch that don't watch that. Yeah, now, every like the next month, I'm just gonna get fuck you rob as my comments. Everybody's just just going to comment Fuck you Rob, fuck you Rob.
Speaker 1:That should be like my first piece of like exclusive in moderation, merch, it's just like a picture a picture of, like my leg cramping and it's just the slogan Fuck you, rob Yo, that's a moneymaker right there, guys, guys.
Speaker 3:Is there going to be people walking around? With fuck you rob merch oh my god, go to the patreon and let us know if you actually want to see that.
Speaker 1:That's actually. That's actually kind of funny.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna lie because I I mean, I hate to say it, but if people actually want that, I will make it we will.
Speaker 1:We could also drop your full legal government name. Fuck you, robert, I don't know. No, no, no, we're not going to do that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I mean fuck you, rob Fuck you.
Speaker 1:Rob is nice and short.
Speaker 3:Nice and short Straight to the point.
Speaker 1:Straight to the point.
Speaker 3:Robert has too many syllables.
Speaker 1:Robert does have too many syllables.
Speaker 3:When you're talking to an 18-year-old, you need to use the least amount of syllables as possible. Correct, yeah, so people, don't be your worst and don't do drugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't do drugs.
Speaker 1:Don't mix cough syrup with alcohol, ew why.
Speaker 2:Ew and go listen to our other podcast Unresolved Holes, Something like that.
Speaker 1:That's what it is it was something do you guys just talk about like unresolved trauma or something like that like on there or what is? What is that podcast about?
Speaker 2:you have to listen to find out oh, there you go.
Speaker 1:Is that? Is that how I'm supposed to plug in my social media stuff? Oh yeah, guys go. If you want to learn more about me and you want to see pictures of me hanging out with my friends, go. Follow Sagey007 on Instagram. That's me.
Speaker 3:And cut.
