In Moderation

Laughter and Movement: Redefining Exercise Routine

Rob Lapham, Liam Layton Season 1 Episode 61

Ever found yourself chuckling at your cat's antics while simultaneously reeling from the aftermath of a ginger and turmeric shot? You're in good company. Today, Liam and I, feeling the weight of exhaustion, embark on a journey through the humorous ups and downs of daily life. But don't let our low energy fool you—there's plenty of motivation to be found as we explore how to start exercising without waiting for those New Year's resolutions to kick in. Whether you're a complete beginner or just looking to reignite your fitness journey, we promise you'll pick up tips on setting realistic goals and crafting a routine that won't leave you burned out.

We dive headfirst into how to ease into a fitness regimen, offering practical advice for both gym lovers and home workout enthusiasts. Imagine turning your living room into a fun cardio zone with a game of "Just Dance," or experiencing the guided support of gym machines. The key is to find what makes you move, whether it's through dance, resistance bands, or simple bodyweight exercises. And let's not forget about the balance between cardio and strength training—debunking the myth that every workout must be intense to be effective. With lots of laughs and relatable stories, we help you find the joy in exercise and understand the importance of recovery as an integral part of the process.

As we groove through the conversation, we emphasize the flexibility of fitness routines. Workouts can be short, sweet, and sprinkled throughout your day. We even chat about crafting a killer dance party playlist, drawing inspiration from classic hits like "Fire" by the Ohio Players. By the end of our chat, you'll be armed with a fresh perspective on fitness, ready to explore different exercise forms and break free from unrealistic expectations. So, grab your comfy shoes and get ready to move at your own pace, because embracing the simplicity—and fun—of exercise is just a few laughs away.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Dead in Moderation. Liam and I are just absolutely dead today.

Speaker 2:

And we don't have guests, so it's just going to have to be us. It's fine.

Speaker 1:

Cats are killing us At Billabelle's babies.

Speaker 2:

Fucking cats man. The cat like on top of the baby. Jeez, it's a lot, but you know what it's fine.

Speaker 2:

It's fine, like we always say. You know, we always say it's fine. The nice thing about me is I've already set the bar so low that I already surpass it. Um no, yeah, exactly, I got some tea. See, I just did a video on like those ginger and turmeric shots and like those taste like, uh, booty cheeks and I don't like them. They like burn your throat. It's not fun. But ginger and turmeric yeah, it's ginger and turmeric, because they're, you know, like you, you juice ginger and turmeric. If you don't mean, those little shots are like wellness shots. You know, wellness gurus like put them up their butt or whatever. And so I just got some ginger and turmeric tea, oh, putting in your tea, and then, you know, a little soy milk here. I'm good, I'm good, it's all good. Uh, you know, I think you're supposed to be like. I wonder if they have pepper in it, cause, yeah, I don't know if you've heard this, but like it's for turmeric, you need black pepper in it. To what?

Speaker 1:

is it that you activate? It's something that absorbs it? Yeah, it's got really poor. What's the word I'm looking for? But yeah, bioactivation, bioactivation.

Speaker 2:

Something you got. You're supposed to have a little black pepper with your turmeric bioactivation, something you gotta. You're supposed to have a little black pepper with your turmeric, which I mean when you do it in your cooking. It just makes sense because you know, you put, you know, your black pepper into your food with your turmeric and boom, there you go. Uh, but that's not what we're talking about at all this week, completely we're not talking about shoving ginger and turmeric up.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I'd rather do that or drink it. Both sound terrible, I mean. I mean I don't know Like I'd rather be stabbed or shot. That's the question.

Speaker 2:

But we wanted to keep it simple this week, probably not going to be super long, not like an hour plus or anything. I just want to. We want to talk about exercise, because that's something not only we've talked about too much we've brought like one or two guests on. You know, we definitely had Cage, we had Ziegler Monster, ziegler Monster I can never remember how to pronounce his name.

Speaker 1:

I can never remember. I always thought it was one and then it's turned out to be another. I know there's like three different ways you pronounce it.

Speaker 2:

Well, we had them all. They talk about like bodybuilding stuff, like that. That's all cool, but I wanted, like it'd be cool, do on talking to people who are just new. Maybe it's like hey, man, I want to like exercise, but uh, fuck, I don't know shit. How do I, how do I get started when I know like next to nothing, especially?

Speaker 2:

before I get my coming up with the whole new year, new you thing oh yeah, people do that for two weeks and then, yeah, immediately give up on that man I'm sure here's the first advice start now, don't wait for new year's there you go. I like that, that's actually. It's actually good, um, but with, like you know, I'm sure planet fitness cash is in.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I'm like in like january they have to yep, and then they'll sell like the, they'll upsell like the six month or one year thing, and then that person they go for two weeks and they're never seen again yeah, because, like, if everybody you signed up to like a plan of fitness went, it would just be packed like you wouldn't be able to do anything.

Speaker 2:

So that's like you know how they stay in business. But uh, before I give my two cents, what was like what would you, you know, tell someone? What do you say if somebody's like I'm trying to exercise, I don't know dick, what do I do?

Speaker 1:

well, the first thing you need to look at is what your goal is Right, because that's going to determine what sort of programming that you're going to need.

Speaker 2:

Right, because if you have like a goal of, say, fat, if you want to lose weight, then exercise can be a component to weight loss, but a lot of that will be through your diet.

Speaker 1:

So you know you want to get better at playing rec league soccer. It's going to be different than if you want to become the next mr olympia very true, but I don't think we're talking to too many, mr olympias, no.

Speaker 2:

So I think, well, let's do just like a general one. Let's just say you know somebody like, hey, uh, I want to be healthier, I want to be less, not healthy less, not healthy, less, not healthy.

Speaker 1:

What do I do for that? Well, when we, when people start getting into the gym, the first mistake everybody makes is they think they have to go hard right off the bat jump in the deep end. Yeah, and that just ends up with you being extremely sore, hating life, not able to work or do any of your your you enjoy, and that's going to lead to you quitting because you're not going to enjoy it yeah, like you're like, you know like, oh, you're gonna do this five, six, seven times a week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fuck that shit. I say man, I honestly, like I say like one day, like if you're starting right off, you could start with one day a week. People like, oh, what's one day a week gonna do? I'm gonna tell you what it's good, what it's going to do. It's going to do a lot more than zero. It's going to do a fuck a lot more than zero days a week.

Speaker 1:

So when I get new clients, I will be like, okay, we're gonna, especially if they're new to the gym, I'm gonna be. I'll be like we'll maybe do two week, two days a week, three exercises, maybe two sets of those exercise, not to failure, nowhere near failure, and I will get the. Some of them understand, but some of them get the response of what's that going to do? Like I, I want to go hard, I want to gain muscle, I want to do all this and I'm like, no, we're going to start easy, so that it's your. You need to let your body get used to moving.

Speaker 2:

Your body's not used to moving I think at the beginning people like, okay. So when we say failures, like you do as many reps as you can until you can't do any more reps, and that's like at the beginning you don't even know what failure is like you haven't tested yourself yet, so you know, do it till it's, you know, somewhat difficult, like that was tough. If afterwards you're like, oh man, that's all right, that was a little tough, perfect. There you go. That's, that's, that's your metric, use that shit. You know, if you drop the weights you're like, wow, I felt like I could have done a lot more. That was super easy. Then that probably wasn't enough. It's not that complicated, we don't need to be going crazy here.

Speaker 1:

And that's just the first week. Like the next week we'll be like OK, how do you feel? Are you super sore? Are you? So? If you press the poke, the muscle does it hurt like hell? We'll take a little break, that's okay. If it doesn't hurt, maybe we'll step it up just a little bit. Maybe I'll do three sets instead of two sets.

Speaker 2:

I say, and you know, like two days a week is pretty good. Let's start with that. Let's say like, hey, two days a week, I think a lot of people can manage two days a week. And now it becomes like, where do you have from here? Like, are you, do you have a gym? Do you have a plan of fitness? That's great If you do.

Speaker 2:

What I would really do is try and this is just you know my, my personal opinion but just do two like full body days. So you have, let's say, you know, some type of pushing exercise, some type of pulling exercise and some type of leg exercise. If you do like I don't know like two sets of each thing, I mean that won't take you that long two sets of some type of chest press, some type of row where you pull a thing towards you, and then some type of leg exercise. So easy, right at the start. It's easy, you know leg press, so you just do that. You do like two sets of each of those. How long is that going to take you at the gym?

Speaker 1:

like 15 minutes, 20, you know not you don't need to be there an hour, especially you don't need to be there an hour and you're not even going to get much more benefit from that.

Speaker 2:

Like the benefits really got to trail off after and, like I said, you're going to get so sore afterwards that you're going to hate life so like on a monday, you do it a monday and then you do go again on like a thursday. You have a few days in between for your body recover, maybe a friday, whatever, just something like that, and so that's great. If you have a gym, fantastic, phenomenal, you can go. Look at the little machine. There's a little design that says push like this and then you push like that. You push like the little guy or gal's pushing on the on the machine, awesome. And I like machines honestly. Like you know, you don't need especially the beginning, like it's just, it's, it's, it's one plane, it shows you you go from here and you you end there.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, your body is getting used to moving. That's one off the start, kind of hard to mess that up.

Speaker 2:

So like, yeah, I think that's awesome at first and then you know so if you're not doing a gym, you know people like I don't really want to go to the gym, I'm not comfortable, I'd say there's so many like, just guys, I say this all the time, 21st century, come on, like we have YouTube, we have things you can look up. Just like you know full body workout with what you have. I don't have any weights, I'm just going to do body weights, do that, look for one. That's like 15 minutes. That way you know it's 15 minutes. You don't even have to travel anywhere, so you don't even lose that time.

Speaker 2:

If you have I've talked about bucks maybe you know $80 Canadian, whatever it is, get those. And you know you could look up. You know full body workout with bands and do that at home, like, I think, most people. Youtube's free, you got ads. But like YouTube's free, you hit the little skip ad after five seconds, you know you got that. And just you know two days a week, like that. I think that's something. You were even like I said one day a week, that's think that's something. Or even like I said one day a week.

Speaker 1:

That's oh, that's better than nothing. Yeah, take it one step at a time and like, especially when you're beginning. I really want to emphasize that when you're beginning you need to go slow. If you just jump in the deep end you are going to get hit by delayed onset, muscle soreness, doms so hard that that is going to make a lot of people quit and so, like you could also do one, just like one day.

Speaker 2:

If you maybe say you have two, let's go back to you have two. You have one day a week, um, you do one like strength training and another day where it's cardio, where you try and do some cardio again. If you have a gym machine's awesome. I like little. I'm personally I'm not a big fan of like a lot of the uh, uh, like biking and stuff like that. I prefer, like I'm usually like a stair stepper person, slow, like people. You don't have to be going fast on stair stepper. Honestly, like you know, I put it like what is it like a six or five or six, uh? And then you know I listened to. You know candy crush or whatever it is like. Whatever you're gonna be doing that shit on your phone anyway. Right, I know you, you've got like eight hours on your phone every day. So do I, but I'm an influencer. I have a reason for that. Okay, leave me alone. So you know, so you can just throw that right on the stairmaster or whatever. Or you know treadmill inc. Treadmill, inclined treadmill, that's. I did that today Cause, let me tell you, fucking Oakley was up my butt Like I couldn't do.

Speaker 2:

I was exhausted so I dropped her off a child watch. I went over, I did inclined walking. That was like the only thing I did. I was like I'm just gonna do this as a late cardio day, cause at least all I felt like doing was honestly just lying down on the bench. It's like at least this is something. I'll do this for like 20 minutes and I did that. Awesome, that's something. Or yeah, again, if you're at home, you can always look up exercises. You know some kind of cardio. You have a dog walk the dog.

Speaker 1:

If you have a cat, walk the cat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I would say like I think, if you can, you know those things like those like kind of like walking the dog and the cat and all you know whatever, it's good to work that in throughout your week. And then if you can get like one day a week where you spend, you know, yeah, like 15 minutes trying to do some sort of like designated cardio, it doesn't have to be anything crazy. Like a lot of people have dancing, right, like you know, they have like dance workouts, stuff like that, right, I don't care like legitimately if it's. If you play fucking house of pains, jump around which man, they might be a one-hit wonder, but they hit it big with that.

Speaker 2:

That song, that's a good song. It's in, it's in a lot of my favorite movies. Happy gilmore, I know, right off the top of my head, that's great man. Happy gilmore, that's great. I love like old school adam sandler. Rest of this podcast just about be a be about 90s adam sandler. I also with billy madison, uh, but uh, yeah, it's just, you know, put on some music and dance. Like I had a lot of comments from people saying like, oh, I just like I put on some music and I dance with my like toddler or whatever. My kid, my young kid, that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, like, whatever it is.

Speaker 1:

There was a study recently that the conclusion of the study was that dancing not only was a great form of cardio, but it was also the form of cardio that was like the most beneficial for mental health.

Speaker 2:

I could definitely yeah, right like I was just going to talk about that, you know, kind of just stress relief and, just, you know, having fun. Like I feel like dancing is a part of, has has always been a part of, every culture, like every single culture across the world. They're fucking, there's, there's huge bodies of water between them. They all still dance, like this is just something that, like, humans do. So why not use that shit? I don't like you know. And there's all those like dance classes, right, those dance fitness classes, right, you know, I don't know what they are, but you know, again, this is people you know enjoy them and they try and work dancing into the exercise yeah, go to go to one of those classes.

Speaker 1:

I I've, I've gone to a swing dance class a couple times. That's why I know how to swing dance.

Speaker 2:

Oh, just my mom teaches west coast swing dancing, that's what she does for a living yeah, I try to learn. I got two left feet. That's how I was diagnosed with that official diagnosis. Official diagnosis that's how I got out of the draft but don't worry about it.

Speaker 1:

Or if, or if you have a nintendo switch, pick up. Uh, just dance. Those games are.

Speaker 2:

That's all that is yeah, man, dude, the fucking we man, when the we came out and they had those like we sports and, like you know, the boxing and stuff, where you're supposed to do a thing with the boxing, but you just fucking go back and forth as fast as you can, you just throw your fist afterwards.

Speaker 1:

You're like man I'm out of shape yeah, no, and they've got like fitness boxing on the switch now, which is pretty great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's all these games that you could play as cardio they legit are cardio like and I always talk about the vr, I've talked about that like a ton, but you know, like any sort of game that keeps you. You know, like I mean, boy, I remember what was that, what was that? Dance Dance Revolution, remember that shit? Like I mean, it's still around, but like you go to Game of Busters and people are still rocking that shit out. Oh yeah, definitely, and it's really just about trying to feel so. Yes, you know, like one day even.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you can do like one day a week where you just have some sort of like designated cardio, like just moderate intensity cardio is just it's. It really is beneficial for your health. There's can I tell you, man, how annoying it is that like there's all these like videos and this and that people talking about like these tiny little things. Like what, if I ate I don't know peely nuts instead of cashews, would that be better for my health? I'm like, holy shit. Like what are we? What are we fucking doing here? Like could it be, I guess, but like damn what, it's. Just exercise outweighs anything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're worrying about what nut to eat and meanwhile they're getting like three minutes worth of actual cardiovascular exercise a week.

Speaker 2:

Man, just like some sort of uh resistance training, so like lifting weights, the bands, like we said, body weights. I just watched I'm planning on doing a video there's a woman that's like doing push-ups against the wall and she's like you know, a lot of people might not think this is doing much, but this is difficult for me and you know this is I still lost weight. I used to wait. You need to start then. That's where you can start. Man, push yourself against a wall like you need a wall. You push.

Speaker 1:

This is difficult for me, and you know this is I still lost weight. I used to weigh this much weight. Then that's where you can start man, push yourself against a wall, like you need a wall.

Speaker 2:

You push yourself against there. And then you do like you know, you sit down on a chair and you sit back up. You know, sit on a chair, sit back up. Hey, if that is challenging for you, then fucking do that man. Yeah, you just got to work with what you have. And then you know I would say, like, start with two days a week. And I've talked to people where they're doing two days a week and they're like I think I can go to five. And I'm like what the fuck? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Stop being stupid. You know you go to three. Okay, if you can do three, that's phenomenal. And then I would say, if you're into actually lifting weights and you enjoy like me, I enjoy lifting weights Instead of doing a full body thing like working out every muscle group I think splitting that up can be very helpful, Especially if you're doing three days a week.

Speaker 2:

Let's say you're doing Monday, wednesday or Thursday. Monday, wednesday, Friday, whatever I like the push-pull legs that's what people say. No-transcript. Sometimes the shoulder lateral raises, dumbbell presses I'm trying to think of words, it's getting late and tricep extension, so like working your triceps is generally within the pushing muscles. When you do a chest press, you're going to be activating your triceps as well. And then you have a pull day where you do like your back exercises, bicep curls, that sort of thing, things where you just pull things towards you and then you have legs, which is pretty self-explanatory. All right. And then so you don't skip that, you want to skip that. You're going to go in your leg mode.

Speaker 2:

If I skip that, you don't skip that. You do that. You might skip calves. You might skip calves a little bit. That's okay, that's fine. But so, yeah, you just do that and you give yourself a little break in between. That's perfect. If you're working three days a week, I think a push-pull legs is great. If you're doing two days a week and both of those days you decide you want to do some sort of resistance training and then just work in cardio the rest of the week, I would say upper-lower is great. So, upper body one day, lower body one day. I think you can figure that out. Upper body exercises, lower body exercise. Keep it simple, stupid, don't. It doesn't need to be super complicated.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, with my clients I've seen I've had a lot of people that you know came to me and they're like okay, I want to work out five, six days a week, I want to get jacked, I want to get ripped yeah you know it started about classic, yeah, classic, and and I always like yeah, no, we're starting out with two or three days to start with.

Speaker 1:

We'll see how you feel. We'll step it up each week we'll, we'll talk, we'll see like, is everything recovering properly, are you still sore? But eventually we'll step it up. You know, a little bit more exercise, a little bit. Maybe an extra day in there, get it four days a week, get it five days a week. But by doing the step up they're able to find out where, in all of that, they actually feel comfortable, because a lot of them end up getting up to six days a week and they're like this is too much. But they know that, hey, you know what, three days a week, that was working for me, so I can bring it back down to three days a week. Five exercises, four exercises, exercises, whatever. And they have been sticking with that because that is what works for them and they figured that out by not skipping it yep, you could always dial it back down, that's fine.

Speaker 2:

A lot of times, you know you get to that five you're like, oh fuck, this sucks, I'm done totally like no, no, just just reel it in. It's okay, just reel it in. And then you know, like people ask like what's the best exercises? Fuck all that shit, listen, um, find an exercise you like for each of those categories.

Speaker 1:

Like it really doesn't matter, I find, sir this exercise is going to be the one you do like I totally like I mean your body.

Speaker 2:

Your body will kind of tell you, like you do an exercise and you're like, oh, that shit hurts, okay, so that exit. Holy, I did, I hadn't done in forever A preacher curl. So preacher curls, if you don't know, you put your arms forward, they're on kind of like this bench and you do a bicep curl basically towards you, so it keeps your upper arms, you can't move them, and then you pull, you do a bicep curl towards you. Kind of hard to explain really, but I did that and my shoulder was like fuck you, you're not doing that shit. And I was like, okay, damn, I haven't done a preacher curl in forever. And uh, it was like, yeah, it was one of those machine ones and I I couldn't even do a set. I was like I'm done here, I'm moving on, I'm gonna try to do something else that just doesn't hurt. So you know, like don't get caught up. And like, well, I have to do this because it's I saw it on a plan or the no pain, no gain slogan is so bad like pain it.

Speaker 1:

Pain does not equal gain.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's just, you know, some people enjoy that kind of hardcore-ness, right like there are.

Speaker 1:

There's that group of people like people that go to alpha camps yeah, there's definitely some of that too.

Speaker 2:

There's definitely some overlap, let's say that the Venn diagram, there's a little bit in between. But like, I get it. If you do like kind of like that, you know, push yourself as hard as possible. Some people really like that. Like I do enjoy pushing myself, like in the gym, like I enjoy that. So there's nothing wrong with that, you know, you just try and use it, control it. And yeah, like, just don't just stop overthinking it, man, it's, it's, it's. You got enough shit in your life. Look at me, you know, jeremy, susan, whatever, whoever's listening, the all the names, you got enough shit, all the things. Man, you got enough shit in your life. Fucking, stop worrying about like all these, just little things. When it comes to exercise, pick a day. I'm sure you can find there's like oh, I got like 15 minutes in here, I can put on YouTube, I can try this, I can buy, you know, a set of bands. Or there's like oh, what are those dumbbells that like have like different. You just turn the dial and it has different weights.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if they have a specific name different, you just turn the dial and has different weights. I don't know if they have a specific name they're just there's adjustable dumbbells.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're like adjustable dumbbells. Like, just look up adjustable. There's like a brand, kind of like we say q-tips when we really mean like cons, but, bro, I realized chapstick is a brand name. I always said just chapstick and never thought of that. But like chapstick isn't like you know the. The. It's the brand, it's Chapstick. But what is it that you put on your lips? Lip balm, lip balm, is it? That's what it is Lip balm. I've always said Chapstick instead of lip balm because I've just you know, you just know it.

Speaker 1:

I mean technically you could just call it a moisturizer.

Speaker 2:

Lip moisturizer, but that's. You know, some brands just figured that shit out where it's like chapstick and you're like boom, I love that, like that's what we're saying now, what's not? I'm trying to think of another, like q-tips. There's a few of them that you just say the brand without, even, without even thinking about it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I need one to get one of those companies that's the problem is that we say the brand without even thinking about it. So we probably think about a bunch of them and we don't even know it.

Speaker 2:

You're like, oh, I didn't even know that was a brand, I'm just so used to it. Those fucking, they've got it figured out. Man, yeah, they've got it figured out. Exercise. So yes, keep it simple, figure out your goal. So, figure out your goal. Like, what do you want to do? Are you just trying to be healthy? Awesome. Do you want to try and do resistance training and cardio? Fantastic, those two together. I would definitely recommend them both.

Speaker 2:

But hey, if at first you're like I hate cardio, I hate cardio, I'm not doing all right, fine, try resistance training. Or I hate lifting weights, okay, fine, try doing some cardio at first. You can always, always work at that into the future. And then from there, where can you go? I can go to a gym, or I can work out at home, or I have a break at work fuck, even like, yeah, you got a break at work, I can bring, I can bring some bands with me, I can do some body weight stuff I can do. Uh, just, I can, you know, do some sort of cardio in between it. I can put on some music and dance. I can go. It's it's freezing outside, but if I go out there and I dance, I'm going to get warm. So that's that's. That's going to be my cardio, that is, that's something like.

Speaker 1:

At least that's that's an important point as well. Is that exercise? First of all, it does like we always think of it as hour blocks. You don't have to go for an hour, and the other thing is it doesn't have to be continuous, right, exactly, you can do five minutes here, five minutes there, five minutes before bed, whatever. You can split it up so that maybe you want to work your chest, shoulders and triceps one day. You could do a couple exercises of chest in the morning, if that's what you have free time for, and then hit your delts, your shoulders, mid-afternoon and then hit those triceps before bed. It does not need to be continuous.

Speaker 2:

And, like I say, you get house of pains, jump around and you're like I'm going to play this five times. I'm going to play this five times throughout the day and I'm going to jump around each time. That's it. That's pretty house, how long? How? How long is step jump around? I'm gonna look this up. Is jump around, if you're in three minutes and 37 seconds.

Speaker 2:

the house of pains jump around is three minutes and 37 seconds if, if you do that five times, oh shit. So three times five is 15. I know that, and then. So five, a third, a half, five times it's over 15 minutes.

Speaker 1:

It's between 15 and 20 minutes 16, just under 17 minutes, I think.

Speaker 2:

That boom, that's what we were just talking about. 15 minutes, right there. Five jump arounds by House of Pain. This is this is going to be, you know, my, my homework to you. If, if you can jump around, jump around to House of Pain, jump around, run around. It's a dance around, whatever, something around. Yeah, like like Rob said, you can just split it up a little bit here and there. It doesn't feel as daunting as when you're like, oh man, I got a whole, like you know first, 20 minute block.

Speaker 1:

That can even feel a little a little daunting, yeah, and if you're having one of those days where you're not sure if you're feeling it, one thing you can do is go to the gym or go to your home gym or whatever, get ready to exercise, do one exercise. At the end of that exercise you'll be either be like, okay, I can do one more, or no, I just I can't do this, and then you could just leave. I like that. There's no rule that says you have to stay there. If you're not feeling you, go to go, try it out. If you're not feeling it, leave.

Speaker 2:

I've left it, I've left the gym before man go there. I'm like holy shit, I do not feel. I'm not feeling it right now. I'm not feeling good, I'm feeling out of it, whatever reason, like it's fine, it's, it'll be, it'll still be there, it's still gonna be there. Yeah, you know, but you make the effort, you know you try, like I am gonna. You know I'm gonna try.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna try and get something going except for you guys that are going for the, the olympia.

Speaker 2:

Then just get in the fucking gym, just get all the hardcore, yeah gosh man, some of this, this like I'm looking at, like the prep and stuff they do for that, where they have to the food they're eating and the things they have to do to like get there the dehydration process, and all this, I'm like, yeah, absolutely not, I don't give a shit, I, I don't need that picture, it's gonna be, it's fine it's fine.

Speaker 1:

No, you, you have to give up on a lot of things to to achieve that stuff like, and that's why you don't compare yourself to instagram models, because, well, first of all, half of them are photoshopped, yeah, man, but they are going through some extreme processes to get those photos and those videos, and they're only doing it for like a month, for one month or so, and they do all of their content in that one month and that's their entire year.

Speaker 1:

The rest of the year they probably have a bunch of flap on all your pictures.

Speaker 2:

It's the same season, that's.

Speaker 1:

I'm noticing this well, that's why they always go to the like, the caribbean or something, because then it's not noticeable if you have the same season.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think about that. I didn't think about that. That's smart, I like it. But you, in your regular life, you're going to listen to some music and dance, You're going to play some. I was going to say Wii Sports, I guess it's the Switch. Now, the other day I said that to April. I was like you know the Wii and they're like she's like you mean the switch. Oh, I thought it was like the tent. Whatever, you know the new, the new shiny box that makes shiny box that play game they play game.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that one. Oh man, we all. Let me tell you, though I'm not fitness related at all, but, like we played, it takes two. If you've got a partner and you've got a Switch, look up, it Takes Two. That's really fun. That's a really fun game. It does look like a fun game. Yeah, you've got to actually work together to achieve. It's a puzzle-type game, but you're like two little people. It's cool. Look up, it Takes Two and play that.

Speaker 1:

I think the story behind it also is regarding divorce and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it starts out with divorce and it's kind of yeah, it starts out with divorce and it's, it's so good, it's great story, like a great. Uh, you know the acting that said this at the, the voice acting. All that 10 out of 10 is yeah, that's. That's fun game I'm we're probably gonna go through and play it again when oakley stops sleeping so shitty but we need to play something again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, people are missing you we'll get there.

Speaker 2:

I'm just like. I'm honestly like, okay, so I'm gonna break it here. Here's my plan, here's my plan for all the people listen podcast. They get to know.

Speaker 2:

First I'm gonna, I want to start youtube, like I said, but I'm like I just don't have time to like, you know, get away by myself and and film videos. So I'm just like I'm gonna film it with oakley. I'm just gonna sit at the table and I'm gonna make like, do some recipe type shit, and I'm just gonna have her with me. And so you know that I can be like, listen, if I can make it with a little toddler sitting on my lap, you can. I think you can make it too. You got a good shot at it. If I can, if I can make it like this, uh, and just you know, go through the process like that. That's kind of my plan, because it's just otherwise I don't know where I'm gonna find the time. So just do it with her, we'll, we'll figure it out. Maybe she'll get me to stop swearing so fucking much, especially. That's good for you know, youtube. I know you're not supposed to swear as goddamn much on, uh, on on YouTube you have to declare it.

Speaker 1:

When you, when you do a monetized video, they'll give you this checklist of things and it'll be like are you swearing?

Speaker 2:

yes, yeah, because you don't. You don't get as much, you don't like. I think you get less if you swear. So I'm gonna have to find some other words. I'm sure, I'm sure oakley can teach you some words. Yeah, fudge, oh fudge, that's what I'm gonna say when we mess something up. She, she's going to go. Oh, oh, oakley, we stabbed ourself. Oh, that's bleeding.

Speaker 1:

Go to the hospital.

Speaker 2:

Get the camera. Oh, we dropped the camera, oh man.

Speaker 1:

Now we're looking forward to you too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know I'm just kidding. I Like I always say with you guys, just do it and just figure it out, and like it might go, it might implode, it might not work at all, and that's fine, it's all fine. We're on a space pebble orbiting nothingness right now. Okay, like stop worrying about so much shit. Like just do something and it's fine. It's not going to work, oh well, try something else.

Speaker 1:

I've been watching Terry Pr pratchett's disc world. What is it now? Disc world by terry pratchett world yeah, that's a, that's a disc. On top of turtles, no, on top of elephants, on top of a turtle flying through space oh, I don't think I've seen this, because I know like the turtle thing. Yeah, and the one of the subplots to it is.

Speaker 2:

they're trying to find the gender of the turtle that this world is flying through space Interesting. Yeah, I don't think I've seen this.

Speaker 1:

There's an entire philosophy about what the gender of the turtle is.

Speaker 2:

Sure, why not? Why not? Yeah, but like, do you have anything else about like the exercise thing?

Speaker 1:

Because we went over your favorite split. You know what my favorite split is? Yeah, what's your? Yeah, what you got is actually push pull, not push pull legs, push pull, where you take legs and you actually put it into push pull quads or push hamstrings or pull, and what I really like about that is and then you get into the stuff you really like.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so leg day doesn't feel as shitty. Yeah, because a whole leg day for a lot of people can be kind of taxing. It's just, it's a large muscle group, so afterwards you're like, oh man, I'm exhausted, so I get that. I could totally see that. So you do like you know you could do.

Speaker 1:

So you do some leg extensions, right For your kind of for your push, Leg or leg press, and then you get into your chest and your triceps and then on your pull day you get some.

Speaker 2:

Would you also do like Romanian deadlifts or something like that, for like a hamster, would that be?

Speaker 1:

kind of like a pull Romanian deadlift, regular deadlift leg curl.

Speaker 2:

You can hit some glutes too, Do some hip thrusts and then again you go from there into your back and your biceps and you're splitting that legs up just a little bit, yeah, and then following it up with things that typically most people like more than legs right I mean, there's those people that love leg day and you just give them leg day, right, yeah, so yeah I, I could definitely see that working with the I do like my only thing because, with recovery, though, because, like, I like the push-pull legs because it's three days, because it gives me enough time to recover, especially if you're working out like, because people do push-pull legs, they'll do like six days a week, so you really need that time in between to to recover there, because the recovery is like super. And also, we didn't talk about that, but, like you know, we always talk about sleep, but it is super important when it comes to like exercise, you need to recover. Yeah, you know, get your protein. We always talk about sleep, but it is super important when it comes to like exercise, you need to recover. Yeah, you know, get your protein.

Speaker 2:

We always talk about that too. You know that that sort of shit you don't need to be taken like a slamming a protein shake on your way out of the gym. Just get your protein in throughout the day. But, yeah, with the, with the push pull, since you're only doing one or two leg exercises each time, it's actually pretty easy to recover from. I can see this. So you're not doing as much, so you know the stimulus quite isn't as high, but I guess you could repeat it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I could definitely see that I definitely see that it's definitely a good option for people who don't like hitting an entire leg day. That I get, that you that's. There are some people that, like the leg day aspect throws them off. That's what makes them quit, and so you just cycle it into everything else so like a pewdiepie, like famous youtuber, you know one of the biggest youtuber.

Speaker 2:

He was talking about his exercise and I remember dr mike from renaissance periodization was like reviewing his thing and he's like I just don't really like, like, so I don't do them that much. Dr mike's like hey, you know, if you don't like them and you know you're not really focused on them, you don't need to do them. Then, you know, hit them a little bit here and there and don't. You know, don't go crazy.

Speaker 1:

It's if it's gonna be a big impediment to you yeah, if you're not going to try to compete on stage, yeah, there's no reason for you to have ginormous quads like you know, at least you're doing upper body again, like we say you're doing something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, go in. My favorite pull day, absolutely pull day, my favorite day. Uh, you know doing like you know pull-ups and rows, like I'm all about that. That's my favorite, right there, I like to grab things and pull them towards me. That is what I like to do. There's no, it's not problematic at all, don't worry yeah, probably my favorite exercise is the Meadows Row. Yes, that is a good one.

Speaker 1:

I am so sad I didn't get to meet him before he died.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was really sad. John Meadows was famous in sort of the bodybuilding community. He did a lot of coaching. He was known as the Mountain Dog.

Speaker 1:

And he was like the nicest guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he always wore like, like you know, like unicorn, like shirts like big pink unicorn shirts and he's like this massive dude is is very funny. It was really sad he has I think he had like what three children, like three young children, two, two I was a two boys. Oh, it's just so sad and he would.

Speaker 1:

He would like. He's the type of guy who just in the middle of his exercise video, would insert little segments that his children would make oh, that's, I don't think I saw that.

Speaker 2:

I watched a few of his videos. I didn't see that.

Speaker 1:

It's interesting yeah, like one of his kids was getting into yo-yos and so his kid would make a yo-yo trick video and john meadows would just put it in the middle of his exercise videos.

Speaker 2:

I guess like we need to do with an oakley segment. We need to get I need to get her recorded on some some sounds. There we go where's sounds from oakley, but yeah, I mean, if that's it like I, you know, just try and figure out your goal, try and pick something, stick to it, for you know, and start small and just, just, just, yeah, and if you need help getting started, if you go to the inmoderationnet, there's e-books that are pay what you can afford.

Speaker 1:

There's an app that's pay what you can afford. You can also hire me as a coach. I'm unfortunately not pay what you can afford because I need to make some money.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and just take it day by day. That's it. That's what life's about. You know we talk about with food. It's the same way with exercise, exactly, listen. We always talk about how the bar is so low if you're, if it's already down there and you're walking over it, you might as well pick it up once in a while. That's it. It's super easy. Like, oh, I've walked over it, let's pick it up. Put it back down. Exercise boom. Oh, house of pain, just came on. I'm doing my dance for the next three minutes and hold on 37 seconds and I've done my exercise. Boom, count it.

Speaker 1:

We, we need to go get healthy. Um, we need to go get the the rights to play house of pain right at the end of this listen, guys.

Speaker 2:

We know you only have one song that you've made your entire life that, that that did something, but we need it.

Speaker 1:

We need that song everybody, go over to the patreon and tell us what your favorite song to dance to is oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2:

I like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah let's throw together a playlist of dance songs and everybody can just have a dance party I feel like I mean, I wonder what else like like fire, you know?

Speaker 2:

so what's that sound like fire? Oh, um, I don't know that. I always played on, on, on on, like gordon ramsay show, yeah, yeah, hell's kitchen, or whatever the hell it was.

Speaker 1:

The band name is escaping me right now.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I don't even know the Ohio Players.

Speaker 1:

That's it. Is that what it is? That's what it is. The Ohio Players, I'm pretty sure, are they also a one hit wonder?

Speaker 2:

No, Is that their?

Speaker 1:

only song. No, they've got another couple hits.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, no, they've got another couple hits. Yeah, no shit. This is a real band, a fire. This game that came out in 1974. Yeah, it's a fairly old song. That's crazy. Well, I learned something new there you go.

Speaker 1:

All right, everybody go.

Speaker 2:

Don't dance your worst or they fucking dance your worst, that's fine as long as you're dancing it doesn't fucking matter.

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