In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
Live Debunk II: Buzzword Bingo
When wellness influencers walk through grocery stores pointing cameras at food labels, what are they really selling? In this episode, we turn their content into a drinking game, taking sips of diet soda whenever they mention buzzwords like "toxins," "chemicals," or "seed oils."
We examine several viral wellness videos, starting with one claiming honey is superior to antibiotics for wound healing. While medical-grade honey does have legitimate antimicrobial properties, we unpack the misleading nature of positioning natural remedies against conventional medicine rather than acknowledging how they can work together.
The conversation shifts to a common argument against moderation in diet, where wellness influencers compare food to addictive drugs. This black-and-white thinking creates unnecessary fear and often leads to extreme, unsustainable approaches to eating. We contrast this with evidence-based perspectives that acknowledge individual differences while promoting balanced relationships with food.
Perhaps most revealing is our analysis of heritage chicken marketing. At $12 per pound (triple the price of conventional chicken), these specialty products might offer slightly different nutritional profiles but create significant financial barriers for most consumers. This exemplifies a broader pattern where wellness content assumes everyone has unlimited food budgets and access to specialty products.
Throughout our discussion, we maintain compassion for everyday people navigating confusing nutrition information while critically examining wellness messaging that creates unnecessary fear and financial burden. Our evidence-based approach, combined with humor and real-world practicality, offers listeners a refreshing alternative to extreme food ideologies.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to In Moderation, where we are also again doing some reviews of videos. And that is not because our guests fell through at the last second. I don't know why you were thinking that. It's because people like to have fun doing it.
Speaker 2:We've had a hell of a week too.
Speaker 1:We also have fun doing it. Yes, we're going to do something a little bit different this time. We are going to have our diet sodas and and then we're gonna come up with some buzzwords. And whenever they say that we're gonna take a drink now, I would normally go and get free to join us for you. Yeah, I was gonna say normally I would go out and get like a mountain dew code red zero or something, but like if oakley sees me and then sees me come back in the room.
Speaker 1:she's gonna freak out even more, and she's already freaking out. So, um, I'm gonna drink this poppy that's still in my room that I've had. I've had these in here for like months. I'm down to the last, like four of them, so it'll work. So what buzzword should we pick, though? I think so. Toxins, obviously has to be that right. Toxins, toxins. Seed oils, of course, has to be on the list. What else? Chemicals?
Speaker 4:What else?
Speaker 1:do? We got Just vague notions of chemicals.
Speaker 2:Well, what's some other good? Let's get two more, two more.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean we'll get a few more. Yeah, let's see. Oh boy, yeah, oakley's got some ideas.
Speaker 2:I hear that Wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's none too pleased. Yeah, uh, let's see what else, what the grocery store walkers say. I think we should pick some of the like, some of the things like msg, you know, like there was like the things that they fear monger, like msg, msg. Uh, if they mention sugar is bad for you, like so how sugar is terrible for you, not just sugar, not only to say sugar but they have to say, like sugar is, you know, horrible for you, or something like that. Uh, if they try, and if they talk about a supplement, that's definitely one that's going to be on the list. And how about? Just they're in a grocery store, they're just in a grocery store.
Speaker 2:They're just in a grocery store.
Speaker 1:Five sips. It's five sips. Well, we're going to drink all of our sodas before the end of it by with just that. But sure you know, and as we do do this, we could add more things to the list, but we'll just start off with that all right, sounds good, so let's pull up a video here, let's see. The first one is it is it, uh, our friend paul? Is it paul first?
Speaker 2:uh, we can go with paul first. Do you want to go with paul first?
Speaker 5:I just caught my shoulder open and called ramp and uh, yet another use for some lineage organic glyphosate free honey, we didn't add that to the list amazing wounds and has been used on wounds for centuries, if not millennia heck of a cut but there you go yeah, that is a heck of a cut throw on some lineage glyphosate free organic honey every day.
Speaker 1:Hey, hey rob does normal honey have glyphosate in it? I honestly don't know do. Do we put glyphosate in honey? We don't put glyphosate in honey, but uh bees can collect from fields that have been sprayed with glyphosate and therefore I say, make it from the bee into the honey and then like all the way, yeah, how much it's got to be such an incredibly small amount, yeah I mean like this is the guy that wouldn't touch a receipt from a fucking grocery store you know so like.
Speaker 2:And the real question is how do you control the bees to not get any crops that honey from any crops that were? I don't know, like you couldn't have like any conventional fields like bees, could go for a far distance to get the nectar for their honey you have to be like in the middle of a field, fucking nowhere, like just like you have to be so isolated.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's just say it's sure, the glyphosate and honey, that's the problem yeah, okay, you can see it's about a a week and a half.
Speaker 2:It's completely healed that's not completely healed, come on honey on it like, say, free honey.
Speaker 5:I'm in costa rica, where things are notorious for getting infected. I use no antibiotic creams. That had no problems. Honey is incredible guys. I just put it on there.
Speaker 1:Look at the healing I think eating a bunch of meat. So I mean it will like generally heal on its own right like the.
Speaker 2:It's true that honey is an antimicrobial which, like that, that's, that's a form of antibiotic, so you're putting an antibiotic. It's not fair to say that you didn't put an antibiotic cream on because you did put an antibiotic.
Speaker 1:It's kind of. In a way it is sort of an antibiotic. So like it's like okay, I'm not saying like he, his everything's saying about honey. Like is wrong. Like, and I will say like just because we did it for many years doesn't mean like it's a great idea. Like he's like we've been doing it for so long so we should do it. Like that's not a great reason. But like there are medicinal like it, like was it manuka honey? Like I've seen people use it for very specific applications and in the medical field they do use it for certain things. So like it's not super far out there putting honey on. I'm not an expert on fucking wound care, but I can't imagine putting honey on a wound is like the worst thing you could do. Right, I doubt it would be something that they would recommend first, but you know like well, this is far from the craziest thing I've seen from him.
Speaker 2:This goes along with, like all the supplements that people push instead of medication. A lot of medication is just isolated versions of things we find in nature, and so what he did was he put on a weaker version of an antibiotic. He could have just put on one of our medical grade versions. It would have been safer. There would have been less risk of infection.
Speaker 1:I want to see what, like I'm curious what AI tells me. You put honey on a wound, let's see. Let's see what AI says. Ai says it's totally fine. So, like, clearly it has to be good antibacterial properties, anti-inflammatory. Yeah, all of it seems to be from health line, which, uh, that's a little concerning. It's like all from that ucla, hey, ucla says medical grade honey is viable tool, is a viable is viable tool in wound care. So like medical grade Medical grade.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not commercial.
Speaker 1:But is glyphosate free and medical grade the same thing?
Speaker 2:It's got to be the same thing right, but like that's exactly what I said. It's just a weaker form of a standard antibiotic. You could have just put on a regular antibiotic and not wasted good honey.
Speaker 1:In addition to those sugars, however, honey has been found to contain up to 200 other unique bioactive compounds. So that's a long word. Yeah, long word. Drink, yeah, a long word is a drink we can't drink from our own words that we say. They have to say them. It's acidic, so it's low pH and inhibits bacterial growth.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's acidic, so it's low ph and inhibits bacterial growth. Uh, okay, so like I mean, if you don't have antibiotic cream around, you could probably use it, but it's not something you should really stock in your first aid kit bro, here's a whole like pub med evidence for clinical use of honey in wound healing as a antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, antiviral agent.
Speaker 1:A review um, honey has almost equal or slightly superior effects when compared with conventional treatments for acute wounds and superficial partial thickness burns. Partial thickness burns. Partial thickness burns. Uh, more randomized control trials with significant statistical power comparing different kinds of honey, are required, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, so like there it says at the end there is biological plausibility. So hey, you know what?
Speaker 4:like we gotta give it to paul like this is far from the craziest thing he's done, yep the moment we can just sort of generally acknowledge that people really do have addiction, like based on every little metric you want to check, then the sooner we can get rid of stupid advice like moderation and all things. That is so.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, of course, stupid advice, fucking moderation.
Speaker 4:Something that sounds so nice, it sounds so beautiful, and the person who says it. It just sounds so clever. And yet tell that to an addict. It doesn't beautiful. And the person who says it. It just sounds so clever. And yet tell that to an addict. It doesn't work. You know, would you ever say that to an alcoholic? Well, just drink one glass of wine and stop. And yet they can't. You know, that's the problem. You're giving them more of the thing. You're encouraging them to indulge in their addiction.
Speaker 1:It's always compared to drugs. Every time yeah, Every time they're like oh, just do heroin in moderation. What are you talking about? Are we speaking the same language here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love when they. You can't eat food in moderation because alcoholics can't drink in moderation. That's exactly how it works. That seems to be their argument right.
Speaker 1:Like their drug addicts, can't use cocaine in moderation. That seems to be like their sort of argument, and I don't know how much water that holds.
Speaker 2:They always use the sugar is addicting argument and it's like go eat some sugar and tell me how far you get into the bag before you want to throw up Just some raw sugar. Okay.
Speaker 1:Just scoop that stuff up with your hand. Okay, you got out of there for a little bit, but I'm just going to say you have to eat, you have to eat food you don't like. You don't like necessarily need to do drugs, like it's just it's I that one always that that's always annoying, like, ok, so we have to be super strict on everyone. I'm sure that will work. Let's get Jillian Michaels out there and tell everyone how they have to eat their fucking early harvest organic berries.
Speaker 2:That'll make everyone healthy, right oh yeah, definitely, the people will definitely stick to that oh, it's not small changes.
Speaker 1:They're gonna, they're gonna do, they want to do the fucking stupid shit where it's like they cut out all the macronutrient, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, now, next, eat moderation. I go in moderation. It's shocker. The fuck is the plant-based cheese. How does that make sense? He's in a grocery store drink, drink. Oh. We should have put bullshit on the on the on the list, then he would have. Oh, what was the video? I didn't even see.
Speaker 2:He was yelling about cheese so he was looking at vegan cheese and he was like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1:yeah, and it's like yeah, I, I see a lot of grocery store walkers yelling about the vegan products and I find that uh, interesting, like, why, really like? Is this the problem is? Is the problem people are eating vegan cheese, like I? I really don't think this is.
Speaker 2:This is the issue here how dare we make accessible products of different flavors and types that people might like, that people can eat, if they aren't allowed to eat? Oh, you remember when just egg.
Speaker 1:You remember just when just egg came out? Yes like the fake it's it's made out of like soybean oil and stuff like that. Bro, the grocery store walkers had a fucking field day with that shit. Eat Eat real eggs. This is garbage. So many videos. Egg allergies are like a real thing, like a lot of quite a few people are allergic to eggs, so that seems like it could be useful. Vegans, obviously. You know that sort of thing, like I. Just that it's like it's super annoying Get bent, get bent. Fucking, just get bent.
Speaker 4:Have you guys seen this terrible new trend at Whole Foods? You may never shop here again. Chocolate chip.
Speaker 5:He's in a grocery store.
Speaker 3:He's in a grocery store.
Speaker 4:Bioengineered food ingredient. Chicken Caesar wrap Bioengineered food ingredient. We fucked up. Bioengineered food ingredients. Place is such a Whole Foods bagels and bioengineered food ingredients. All these sandwiches, these delicious cakes that they're making they're so pretty Contains a bioengineered food. Does anybody know what a bioengineered food ingredient is?
Speaker 2:I'd love to know. Can I just say if you don't know what a bioengineered food ingredient is, don't make food and health content.
Speaker 1:Probably, probably a good idea, like, and they go to a cake, like you think, like the reason, like it's the problem. It's the problem of the bioengineered food, or is it the problem that it's a ton of calories and people just consume? A lot of cake, Because that's I think that's the problem.
Speaker 5:It's just a lot of oil and sugar and like not very nutritious but many calories.
Speaker 1:So, like I know they've, there's been some rule changes. I don't know the exact like uh details on it, but like a lot of things are no longer labeled as gmo, it's bioengineered food. They're not exactly the same. It's kind of like how all like squares, wait how. All rectangles are squares, but not all squares are rectangles. Or is it the other way around? Is that that squares, but not all squares are rectangles? Or is it the other way around? Is that that's way right?
Speaker 2:all squares are rectangles all squares are rectangles, not all rectangles are squares. Yes, I think that's the right way to say I don't know geometry.
Speaker 1:Listen, I'm not a fucking geologist, because that's what knows geometry the geologists that study geometry. You know, that's how. That's what someone who calls what what's the name of someone who studies studies like is it just a mathematician? Do they just study like geometry, or is there like a term for someone who just studies geometry? Is there a term for that?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna look that up is geometrist a thing is geometry.
Speaker 1:I'm a geometrist, not a geologist.
Speaker 2:I'm a geometrist yeah, a geometrist or a geometer who was versed in studies, geometry, a geo meter, a geo meter.
Speaker 1:I would go by geo meter that's a weometer geometer, that's got to be geometer, not geometer. Geometer, okay, I like geometer, that's good, I remember, okay. So, yeah, like not all. I was just saying, like, when it comes to like, uh, gmos and bioengineered foods, it's like some bioengineered foods are like gmo or whatever, but like it's for like a basic understanding. You just replace bioengineered with gmo has been genetically modified in some way, so they have to list that bioengineered is specifically modified in a lab.
Speaker 2:okay, modified like theirified, like their DNA or something. And the field of bioengineering food has done so much for us in terms of making crops hardier, in terms of making them more pest resistant, more resistant to pests, so we use less pesticides, which that shit pisses me off.
Speaker 1:We use less pesticides because they're more resistant to pests, and these people, these fuckers, are complaining about pesticides too.
Speaker 2:Yep, we've also made the food bigger and better to eat. Yeah, tastier, we enjoy eat it. Juicier, we enjoy eat it.
Speaker 1:We me eat delicious tomato Juicy. Here's the thing Like okay, like Whole Foods are trying, not Whole Foods. The thing like we're okay like whole foods are trying, not whole foods. The fucking brand store. But, like you know, foods that are whole are trying to compete with like cheetos. We need all the help we can get right. Fucking cheetos are delicious like an oreo. Are you kidding me? What sort of carrot has a chance against a fucking oreo? None. So like I feel like we should make our whole foods as as tasty and delicious as possible to get any chance I mean, look if we, if we look at like ancient corn and how hard and shitty it was horrible and how hard to grow it was
Speaker 2:oh, if we had that today, it would cost so much and it would require so much effort in order to make it edible, compared to our standard corn today, which we can delicious you can throw it in the microwave for a little bit and eat it and it's delicious and it's got like and it doesn't cost you five dollars an ear.
Speaker 1:No, like I get it, like we should. Ok, listen, listen, I want to. Like you know, I want to play devil's advocate. Like I get it. We're growing so much corn that we take the corn, we turn it into high fructose corn syrup and then we put the high fructose corn syrup in a ton of stuff. We add a lot of sugar. There's I don't know whatever gummies or whatever it is. Like you know, we eat a lot of those things. So, like I get, that's a problem, I really do. But like the corn itself. Like are Americans unhealthy because they're eating too much corn on the cob?
Speaker 2:I really don't think. I don't think that's the issue. I think Americans would be healthier if they ate more corn on the cob, more corn man.
Speaker 1:Fucking corn gets a bad name because of high fructose corns here. Whenever I mentioned corn, they're like no, no, that's not even a vegetable, it's a grain. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like. First off, it depends on how you what it's used for, like popcorn, would be considered a grain whereas like corn on the cob is a vegetable and it's a good vegetable routine.
Speaker 1:It's got antioxidants, it's got a, it's good amount of fiber. It's even got a little protein, not a ton, but like some. Come on, man, fucking don't, don't be demonizing my corn you fuckers.
Speaker 2:They always seem to demonize the good things Potatoes, corn, oats.
Speaker 1:Corn Corn's not the problem. Corn on the cob is not the problem.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you a question why are these chicken breasts and?
Speaker 3:thighs, so much bigger and such a different color than these. Well, this chicken is conventionally raised, meaning there's 50,000 chickens in a windowless warehouse. They only eat grain and they are genetically designed to get fat very quickly, which is why they're slaughtered after five weeks. This chicken is pasture raised, slow grown, heritage breed, meaning they mostly live outside, eat bugs, grass, worms and have a supplemental feed of grain. Slow grown means it takes 10 weeks to get to the slaughter, which is double the time of conventional. And heritage breed is the same type of chicken your grandparents were eating back in the day. Why is this chicken?
Speaker 1:so much Call to the ancestors that should have been on our fucking list. Damn it. Now we're learning all the things. Yeah, that's okay, we'll amend the list.
Speaker 2:Call to the ancestors. That should have been on our fucking list. Damn it. Now we're learning all the things. Yeah, that's okay, we'll amend the list. Call to your ancestors Drink Next time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, drink For next time. We'll know, like you know, what our ancestors did? Oh, because they were so healthy. You know, you know all the people like the 1800s that were like the pinnacle of health, right oh yeah, yeah, they live into what 30, 40, if you're lucky, you got to 50 with it.
Speaker 1:You might have like three teeth left by that point. Oh shit, like okay, and like you know, there's definitely some truth to like the nutritional differences right. Like they eat grass, they eat bugs, blah, blah, blah. Like that might increase, um, the nutrient density of it, like slightly. I know that happens. We talk a lot, they talk a lot about like the grass-fed beef, blah, blah, blah. Like that might increase, um, the nutrient density of it, like slightly. I know that happens. We talk a lot. They talk a lot about like the grass-fed beef, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:But like the differences aren't going to be massive and it is, but the price is going to be massive oh yeah price is going to be three, four times sure if it takes twice as long to raise that chicken, that's a twice as long of a turnover.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's going to cost even more than that. Like you look at the grocery store, you'll see it's like three times the price per pound for like these things.
Speaker 1:So like, if you have the money, that's awesome. And yeah, if you sell fucking shitty protein powder to people, then, yeah, you're going to have the money. But, like, most people are not going to be able to afford that and that's what drives me crazy about all these videos. Like it's never good enough. It's never good enough. Like, no, you can't just have this. It has to be this type of this, it has to be this specific brand, because it's doesn't have all the blah, blah, blah and they'll dare people eat conventionally raised chicken like you?
Speaker 1:need to eat my type of chicken yeah, that's why, again, that's why we're unhealthy we eat too too many chicken breasts yeah well, it was bred to be gigantic.
Speaker 3:After slaughter they're dunked in a chlorinated water bath and the meat can soak up to eight to twelve percent of water, making it much larger, meaning you're paying for a water weight more like you're paying for a water weight, more like you're paying for juicy chicken. What you want is air chilled chicken, meaning the birds never take a bath in a chemical solution.
Speaker 1:Instead, they're hung on chemical, chemical so where?
Speaker 3:do you find heritage breed slow grown pasture raised chicken? I buy mine at Whole Foods from a company called LaBelle and Patrimony. You can find it Patrimony.
Speaker 1:I want to look up how much this fucking shit costs. All right, Can we look up what? Whole Foods? What was it called?
Speaker 2:Something in Patrimony I'm pretty sure that's pronounced Labelle Patrimoie, because it's French.
Speaker 1:Labelle let's see.
Speaker 2:L-A-B-E-L-L-E Chicken. I'm just going to put chicken T-A-T-R-I-M-O-I-N-E.
Speaker 1:They're organic. What the fuck is this? Whole Foods is fucking wild, bro. Whoa, what the fuck I want like. Oh, here it is. I found their website. Oh, it's got a giant fucking chicken on the front. Slow grown Local grain, not just your basic grain, rob. If this is local grain, we grow the grain.
Speaker 2:Here. It's pasture-raised, but it's still eating grain.
Speaker 1:I want to see how much this costs. I want to know how much this fucking chicken Direct-to-consumer. What if I buy direct-to-consumer and they give me options here, fresh direct $12 a pound. $12 a pound. $12 a pound Damn, I gotta math that. Damn, that's some wild shit. Honestly, I did think it would be more. That would be. I mean, that's just like what's you know like? What is it Like three $4 a pound for like your basic one? I don't buy a whole lot of chicken, so I don't really know.
Speaker 2:Oh man but that would be about five, five and a half dollars per kilogram.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're fucking changing the metric system. No one cares, Rob.
Speaker 2:Well, it's the only way I can compare the price. I don't know what chickens cost.
Speaker 1:Listen, the only people that use the metric system are those outside the United States, and that is such a small percentage of people it's negligible. We can just throw all that out the window.
Speaker 2:So okay, so that's five and a half dollars american. That's gonna be about seven dollars canadian per kilogram. Holy shit, that's twice the price it's only twice, because I feel like here that's like three times the price people are people twice the price, but we, I think we, um, we also uh, regulate our agriculture industry way better than you guys do actually. Oh well, that's fun, oh man.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, that's expensive-ass chicken. Let me just say that.
Speaker 2:That is, and it's only slightly more nutrient-dense.
Speaker 1:So you're paying a huge markup for that. It's going to be like a small difference, but not by that much. I'm trying to Give me this one oh my gosh, alright. I'm trying to give me this one oh my gosh, all right. I was trying to see how much it is, my local whole foods.
Speaker 2:I give up, doesn't matter what's next. That was that was it. That was it? Nice quick one this time. All right, that sounds good we both have uh have had a a week for those who uh have been keeping up with my news. My dad is fortunately out of hospital, so that's good Recovering. And he finally got his vehicle back from when somebody ran a stop sign and hit him last year, so he's finally got his own vehicle again.
Speaker 1:So what was he driving? Before One of your cars I was driving.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I had to go in constantly and help him out, so, man, so that's a. That's a huge load off my mind. He's had fucking bad luck with the accidents, man, oh my god damn just yeah, it's, it was frick thank goodness for health care in canada yeah, no kidding out of luck in the United States.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 3:An ambulance.
Speaker 1:That'll be $12,000 minimum. Yikes Jeez. And then on top of that, Do ambulances make a different sound in Canada?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I've never heard an ambulance in the US.
Speaker 1:You came to the US, did you hear any ambulances? You probably heard an ambulance at some point.
Speaker 2:It goes wee-woo. I probably did hear an ambulance at some point hey everybody, go to the Patreon and let us know if ambulances make the same noise in Canada and the US.
Speaker 1:Because I'm pretty sure in England they make the fire trucks and whatnot make different sounds. I've always heard people talk about it, but I don't actually know. I don't actually know.
Speaker 2:And while you're at the Patreon, feel free to suggest guests that you'd like to see.
Speaker 1:Topics you'd like to see covered all that fun stuff. Yeah, that's a good one. Let's see whatever else we can, whatever we can fucking rant about and just whatever I can rant about. That's what I'm looking for something yeah so I get, I get upset by and yell into this microphone.
Speaker 2:As well, as we've been busy preparing for our upcoming D&D game. Yeah, so don't forget this Sunday, march 17th, 16th, 17th.
Speaker 1:Today's the 12th, so whatever that is, yeah.
Speaker 2:March 16th at. I think we're starting at about three. No, we're starting one o'clock mountain time, noon. No, we're getting on. I need to double check this Time zones.
Speaker 1:I'm Eastern, that's all I know.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think we're going to be actually starting around one o'clock Pacific on my Twitch channel, which is Rob Lavin. Like all my other channels, should be starting around one o'clock 12 o'clock specific time.
Speaker 1:They say that because it starts specifically at 12. That's a family guy joke. Man, I still remember that I fucking old school family guy would crack up yeah, d&d, I'm excited.
Speaker 2:All right, I believe that's all the exciting stuff we've got going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so get out there, buy whatever chicken you can afford, or don't buy chicken, buy whatever you want, like honestly, it's fine have tofu.
Speaker 2:I don't care, I'm not your mom.
Speaker 1:Get yourself some honey. You might. You might eat it. You might put on a wound now, who knows? Just don't be your worst.
