In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
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What happens when the hosts become the guests on their own 100th episode? A wildly entertaining journey through the unexpected origin story of In Moderation.
Mike takes the hosting reins as Liam and Rob reflect on how their paths first crossed through videos debunking health misinformation (it always comes back to Bobby). From Liam's background in sleep medicine to Rob overcoming social anxiety by posting videos during the pandemic, their conversation reveals how three content creators accidentally found an audience by simply being themselves.
The discussion veers into gloriously unpredictable territory as they fantasize about purchasing a DeLorean ("I want cat eyes and my feet cut off to fit in a DeLorean, but man, I'm rolling in style!"), debate which horse body part they'd transplant onto themselves, and share the compliments and criticisms they receive most often. Between laughs, they reveal how they've grown more comfortable with their online personas while staying true to their mission of helping people overcome unnecessary food fears.
Beneath the absurdity lie surprisingly profound moments, like their shared belief that "it takes more energy to be a dick" and the importance of recognizing that "history repeats itself." These glimpses of wisdom amid the chaos showcase why In Moderation has cultivated such a dedicated following - authentic voices cutting through misinformation with equal parts science and humor.
Whether you're a long-time listener or first-time discoverer, this centennial celebration captures everything that makes In Moderation special. Subscribe now to join the conversation about health, science, and occasionally, tank nuts.
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Celebrating 100 Episodes
Speaker 1Yeah, I had to open up. We're getting a house in New York. I don't know if I mentioned that to you, mike, but yeah, we're getting a house in New York and I had to try and open a new bank account and they're like you need to come into a branch to verify your identity. I was like fuck you, I don't. That's like 800 miles away. You got to figure some other shit out.
Speaker 2Just check my verified status on my Facebook page or my TikTok page and like or my right like well, listen, we're not the stone age here, it's not 1827.
Speaker 1You can hit a button right now and see my face. What do you mean? I gotta go into a branch hell.
Speaker 2No, are we recording? We are uh yes, the episode has begun the episode has begun. It begins whenever you introduce it, because you're now the host welcome to in a show with a moderate dose of sarcasm, info, and we already know we're not approved. Today is the 100th episode of In Moderation. Can you believe? Well, I think, aside from the interstitials and the incidentals in between, this is the 100th serial episode of In Moderation. What an incredible show.
Speaker 1What I can't believe is you've been on 76 of them I just keep coming back there's I am getting so many people uh, send me messages or comments like, oh hey, you're that guy from in moderation.
Speaker 2It's like a permit which is a crazy thing for someone who is not a a host of in moderation to be the guy from In Moderation.
Speaker 3Well, after this episode, you'll be able to say that you were a host on In Moderation.
Speaker 2I mean technically, I was the one time what a couple of weeks ago, right?
Speaker 3Oh, that's true yeah, no, that was Liam and I'll be back again.
Speaker 2Look, you guys are free to kick me out anytime you want.
Speaker 3I have not asked to be here. I'm kicking him out now episode's over.
Speaker 1No, we only pretend to hate you, it's fine it's the whole point.
Speaker 2It's like you know how uh are you guys fans of conan o'brien?
Speaker 1I do like conan o'brien he's, he's like the comic that can really, I feel like, get a so many different groups of people laughing, you know he can bring everybody together.
Speaker 2He's not divisive, you know, and he's super self-deprecating, but in a very endearing way and, um, he's way better than me. I'm not claiming to be wrong with that.
Speaker 1Hey, you guys know conan o'brien.
Speaker 2He's better than me, I'm just identifying people we should be hiring conan o'brien instead of yes, that's what you should be doing. Why are you bringing me here?
Speaker 3you're the timu conan o'brien, I'm the team. You're the one we can afford. That's not too bad.
Speaker 1I mean I would take timu conan o'brien all day yeah, I'm putting that in my obituary. That's if I could be like timu, like um jim carrey I'm. I'm all in on that. That sounds great.
Speaker 3I like that I kind of want to see your. Well, alrighty, then.
Speaker 1Alrighty, then I fucking love Ace Ventura, pet Detective one and two, even like, even early on, like Cable Guy. Oh, the Mask, the Mask was so good. I rewatched the Mask a couple months ago jim carey man, he's, he's fucking, he's got it, he's got it. Oh me, myself and irene, so underrated, so underrated, well worth it I think he's gonna make it.
Origin Stories and First Videos
Speaker 2I really do he's gonna quit his day job so soon he's gonna quit his day job as an actor to be an even more successful actor. But I don't know if this part was in the recording or if it wasn't, so I'll just say it again. I had suggested, as we were putting this together, because we were trying to figure out a guest, and I posited that what better of a guest than you guys? You guys have never been a guest on your own podcast.
Speaker 3No, we're terrible guests. That's why we don't invite ourselves. That's why we host. Yeah, those who can't guest host, exactly.
Speaker 2Well, I think you guys are fantastic hosts. Let's see if you'll be good guests, and if that's the case, then we'll do this again next week and you'll just be my guests again.
Speaker 3Oh, I like that. Oh is this how you take over the show.
Speaker 2Yes, I will be in moderation.
Speaker 3Season two now with Mike Pridgen.
Speaker 2Now on my own podcast. I haven't interviewed anybody in a long time. I stopped doing it because I wasn't particularly all that good at it. It was difficult to book people, so you guys were very easy to book, considering it was your podcast. You have to be here.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2So let's start here. Let's start with where the podcast began. How did you two meet up? How did you become friends and decide to make this show what it is today?
Speaker 3I think well, I mean like if we're starting with meet up, meet up, or are we just starting like the planning of the podcast?
Speaker 2Let's start where you met very beginning Origin Stories. We're going for prequels here.
Speaker 3Origin Stories. I remember God, what video was it?
Speaker 1I mean, it always comes back to Bobby, it always does.
Speaker 3It was a Bobby video, absolutely.
Speaker 1Always I've been getting so many people like you got to make more of those videos. They're fun. I'm like, oh, they're just a slog, but you know what? Fuck it. I'll slog through it for another one, because people get the yucks from them.
Speaker 2You've said everything you can say about him at this point. What else is there to say?
Speaker 1I learned recently from a follower who sent me a message that he like he worked for bobby for a time or something and they were like looking into taking legal action against me or something at a time, because I was just like tearing into them so hard, never heard anything but like I don't really know what they could have done they would have to prove that.
Speaker 2Yeah, soy causes autism, which is like they're not going to be able to do it. You know it's. They're kind of stuck, their hand is forced because it's.
Speaker 1You're just saying things that are scientifically verifiable yeah, I mean, I was ripping into them you know some names and stuff, like I'm sure they could have really tried for something you know.
Speaker 3The other thing is, though, is if they brought that to light, it would have gone to court that bobby was taking uh or not declaring his interests in various companies discovery.
Speaker 1I learned that from a lawyer. I watched them on youtube. They say discovery. I'm like, oh, that's important. That's where all the legal stuff and the, the and the papers come into play. They gotta learn?
Speaker 3basically, bobby can't do anything against us because he can't bring his own dark dealings to light. So here's question number two.
Speaker 1One of those videos where, like probably I don't know what he did, one I probably commented on it and I was doing my own videos. And then so yeah, we just started like talking about like yeah, that sort of stuff. And then at one point I think you were like you want to do a podcast. I was like fuck it, let's go, yeah. And then at one point I think you were like you want to do a podcast.
Speaker 3I was like fuck it, let's go. Yeah, I was. I was getting some comments about are you ever going to do a podcast and I was thinking about it as I was like if I do one, I'd want to do one with somebody. I like the, the two person dynamic more, and then I started talking to liam about it and I think liam had a couple comments asking if he was going to do a podcast and we were just like fuck it, let's do it yeah, burp, let's go.
Speaker 1And then you put up like a funny picture of me when I was like making a smoothie. You're like liam and I are doing a podcast and everyone's like you picked the perfect frame.
Speaker 2I'm like, listen, I'm in it, I'm all for looking like I don't give a shit did you guys ever expect to have so many brushes with the judicial and legal system when you got into doing this, as we all have?
Speaker 1I haven't had too much really at all. I've been very, like, kind of fortunate how it's played out. I haven't had much, could have had a lot more it's always been threads.
Speaker 2It's never been like an actual letter or somebody reaching out.
Speaker 3It's usually empty threads yeah, most of the threats I get are just I'm gonna cut off your beard people mad, people get mad at anything though I had somebody ask me recently how do you deal with the hate?
Speaker 1And I'm like well, if you're going to be on the Internet, you're going to get hate and you just kind of have to recognize that. What the fuck.
Speaker 2Does it affect you guys anymore? Does it even bother you? Not really no.
Speaker 1I basically try and like I will listen to critiques and if I think they actually hold water, you know I will actually. Okay, this person actually seems like they have a concern. That's fine, I've taken videos down because I'm like, yeah, I could have been more accurate with that. I probably should have said something like this All right, that's fine, Fair enough. But like, then there's that and then there's the people that are just pissed.
Speaker 2They're like oh, fucking aspartame poison. I'm like let's just have some fun with this. Then, yeah, did you know, when they they put 50 rats in a sock and smacked them against the table, they all died. Yeah was crazy. But yeah, you guys are not like personally offended by anything anymore, it's it. I've, I've received that same personal criticism. Oh, you know what I?
Speaker 2I could have worded that differently let me, let me do it again but I'm not going to be open to that right yeah, yeah, it's a rare thing, it really is, but it's important to the scientific method and I know both of you guys are very science-minded. Uh, liam, you come from sleep medicine not many people know that.
Speaker 1Oh man doing that shit like what I'm telling you for anybody out there working nights, god bless you. It just fucks with everything like like sleep is like the foundation and when you don't sleep well like I know because I got a two-year-old it just affects everything. Do what you can. That's what I'll say so what?
Speaker 2what got you to post your first video? And I'm going to ask Rob, I'm going to ask you the same thing.
Speaker 1Oh, you asked me first. Okay, so I started posting gym skits. That's where I started Because I was really into the gym and I also loved like sketch comedy. Like you know, your fucking Key and Peele, dave, spellave, spell bad tv, snl, all that stuff and I was like, let me do some fun stuff. So it's still there, like you can go back. Listen, I stand by a few of those fuckers. They're funny. Okay, a couple of those were really funny, most of them not so much, but like there was a couple that were real good. Um, I even built a whole fake gym made out of wood in my basement for one sketch, for a, literally for a scene that was three seconds long. I built, I spent so long and you know what dedication fucking worth it, absolutely worth it.
Speaker 1And then I had to pull all that out of there and then there was just wood shavings everywhere for like months. Still worth it. That was funny. That was one of my favorite videos, uh. So, yeah, I was doing that. And then, yeah, and then I was going to school for nutrition. I was like I talk about food, I like food, and so, um, I, I made like a couple of videos and those did just like a little bit better. So I was like, okay, we try this now.
Speaker 2Do you remember the first time that you did one of your reaction videos where you're in the corner watching the uh the video up here in the corner, the uh the format I guess you'd be best known for now that is a good question that I don't know the answer to.
Speaker 1I don't know if I I think I was seeing some like I'm sure, because I started off with like the debunking stuff, so I'm sure it was like some nonsense, but I don't know what. The first v, I don't know. I don't remember what I'm gonna have to. I'm kind of curious. I don't want to go back and see what, like the first video was, but I don't remember this raises an important point.
Handling Internet Criticism
Speaker 2Anybody who might want to do the same thing as the three of us posting videos online. If you're getting too precious about the things that you're posting, you don't need to be because it's there. I'm at the point now where there's videos. I don't remember filming.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 2I've put them up and I'm like that was me. I can see myself, but I wasn't present for this. I guess you know how?
Speaker 1you can't step into the same river twice. Mike can't film the same video twice, doesn't remember? There's a connection there. You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2We'll workshop it. If you had more sleep, I think your brain would work just a little bit better, just a little bit. That's the importance of sleep. Right here we're seeing a man at his wits end.
Speaker 3These are the effects of a lack of sleep.
Speaker 2Robert the effects of children. What about your first video? Where did you come from? Why did you start posting? Why did you decide to grace us with your handsome mug?
Speaker 3it was the start of covid and you know, the rise of social media and TikTok and everything. And the gyms had closed and I was sitting around bored and I downloaded TikTok and I decided to try to push myself out of my comfort zone a little bit more, because growing up with the whole social anxiety disorder was constantly a case of I don't want to be stuck in my room, scared of everything for the rest of my life. So it's been a constant one foot in front of the other, try to get outside the comfort zone and that's what I did. I posted on the internet and it took off and I was like what the fuck is happening?
Speaker 2It really is interesting when people start to show up and respond, especially when none of us set out to have an audience. It just happened to us. How have you changed as human beings in that time? Have I changed since I?
Speaker 1started making videos.
Speaker 2Yeah, because I know I've changed in certain ways.
Speaker 3I know my anxiety is definitely lower. I'm not going to say gone, but lower, that's for sure. And I can handle the uh, the trolls even better now.
Speaker 2It wasn't always that case for me the only thing, I.
Speaker 1That's really, I think, changed for me is, um, embracing, being a stupid head. I think it's like what I would say. It's like big difference for me Because, like I've always been a stupid head, right, but like, oh for starting. You know, when I started off I was like, oh, I need to be, look like, you know, I'm official and I know things and like all these things. And eventually I was like, no, no, I'll look at like a stupid head and like a clown, but also give you like good information and cite shit so people know that I do know what I'm talking about, because, like it's social media and like it's just also life, like you gotta have fun and be dumb and like whatever that's.
Speaker 2So I think, just more embracing, that I think people really appreciate that in a world of self-proclaimed experts and people who are unwilling to budge, to have somebody that picks up a recipe from the internet and makes it in a way that looks very realistic, like not the way that it's presented on screen, where everything's like all aesthetically perfect and everything it's like this is probably what yours is going to look like and this is what mine looks like, and I'm going to make it, I'm going to eat it and here's how I feel about it, and you just like it just eats watermelon and cheese watermelon cheese.
Speaker 1Watermelon cheese watermelon and feta. I mean, like, obviously you do the cracker as well, but I'm saying watermelon, feta, maybe a little balsamic in there, maybe a mint or basil, that shit's good rob, what's your weird food combination?
Speaker 3mine's ketchup um. I'm autistic. I don't combine food, I don't.
Speaker 1Everything has to be separate. I'll tell you what mine is.
Speaker 1I've eaten it since I was like six years old. My mom would always make it for me and I called it the special and I would say, hey, make me the special again. The special this is going to shock you, this is going to shock everyone. They're like Liam eats these things. They're like Liam eats these things no fucking way. But I did and I do. Corn beans and cottage cheese mixed together those three things I would eat it like every single day. It was cheap, had protein and fiber. I was set.
Speaker 2The fact that you said cottage cheese. This is going to end up on TMZ tomorrow because you said cottage cheese.
Speaker 1We're like it's cottage cheese.
Speaker 2So can we clear up a couple of things about you and cottage cheese. We're like it's cottage cheese, so like can we just can we clear up a couple of things about you and cottage cheese right now, while we have the opportunity, because you don't hate it I.
Speaker 1I've been eating it since I was like fucking five, six years old. Cottage cheese is great. It's just like cauliflower is great. Here's the thing about both of those things. They don't belong in everything. It drives me crazy. When I see like cottage cheese ice cream and brownies, I'm just like I'm over it all. I've tried it. It's awful. You know what I have sitting in my freezer right now? Three pints of cottage cheese ice cream from this fucking cottage cheese company. Oh, I'm gonna try those tomorrow. I'm not looking forward to it. I'm actually dreading it. I am dreading having to eat this goddamn cottage cheese ice cream.
Speaker 2Oh, did you have any of them already, because I think I saw one of the videos. Possibly or maybe it was just you.
Speaker 1I haven't eaten any of them. No, I've tried to make cottage cheese ice cream myself and that was not good. Didn't like it. But hey, I hope maybe it's good. I hope it's good, that'd be nice. Otherwise I gotta throw away three pints ice ice cream. Maybe Oakley will like it. I don't. If I don't like it, my hopes are so low.
Speaker 2So you hear that everybody Liam doesn't hate cottage cheese. You don't have to tag him in everything cottage cheese related.
Speaker 1Put it on your rice and beans. Oh, man, red beans and rice. Oh, get some cottage cheese on there. You throw it with, like you know, your beef or whatever. Great, it's all awesome. Mac and cheese of cottage cheese Perfect. Make it into queso, sure.
Speaker 2It is a good and versatile ingredient. It doesn't have to be in everything. So, rob, you have recently sort of switched modes a little bit. We, the the old style of you sliding into the frame and using your whiteboard, your greenboard, whatever you want to call it has moved out of the way a bit in favor of some other content. You want to explain the evolution here?
Speaker 3Explain Evolution would be a combination of just redoing my office space, moving off the space you know, I moved from one place to another to another and each time the office layout changes as well as just playing around with editing styles. Actually, um, I love every opportunity to learn, and that includes the audio and the video aspects of the videos and learning how to do transitions and all the green screen stuff, and it's just an evolution over time and playing with new things. Where do you both think that you'll be?
Speaker 1in 10 years oh god, jesus right, what am I in a fucking interview? Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2Let me tell you something what are your plans with this in moderation company?
Speaker 1if you fucking told me a year, two years ago, whatever, when I was like working fucking nights in sleep medicine, like, oh yeah, you're gonna quit your job and be a goddamn influencer, get the fuck out of here. No, I'm not. There's no. What are you? High and drunk? That's. There's no way that's happening. And so, like, 10 years from now, I have no idea. I'm just fucking just seat of my pants. That's what I go with. Everyone's like you play. No, I ain't playing it now. Seat of my pants. That's what's fun about life, man, I don't know. I want to go like travel places where you want to visit. Fuck, if I know I'm gonna go to the airport at some point. Be like thailand, let's go.
The DeLorean Dream
Speaker 3That's a plane assign me a dart at the map thing.
Speaker 1Yeah no idea that's enjoy life right and it's just like roll with it I.
Speaker 2Part of that question was just to deconstruct the idea that we have any idea what's going on. Yeah right, just because we're good at editing and we're good at speaking in the edits and cutting it together in a way that seems coherent does not mean that we know everything, nor do we want to claim we know everything.
Speaker 3Well, considering I'm an old man, I'll probably and be in my rocking chair out on the porch with pippin you'll be what 50, and you're not old at that point that's old for the internet, come on. That's old for the Internet, come on. That's old for the.
Speaker 1Internet.
Speaker 2I'm 31.
Speaker 1I'm old for you and you're streaming video games at 50? God damn you.
Speaker 2I get called Unk every day, you guys getting called Unk.
Speaker 1yet I don't think I get called Unk very maybe once or twice in a comment, but not often. I just get called that cottage cheese guy. That's pretty much all I'm known by hey the cottage cheese guy. If there's a video about cottage cheese that blows up, they're just like. I can't wait to see the cottage cheese guy about this like. This is always one of the top.
Speaker 2They don't even know your name anymore. They don't know, they're like somebody tagged the cottage cheese guy.
Speaker 2And then there's a fucking string of liam tags like oh god and then your response is always I don't hate cottage cheese I've seen it and I like cottage cheese, but it doesn't like it would make sense if your reaction was like bombastic, you know, but it's, you're just like I'm, it's fine, it is what it is but like at this point, I just lead into it and pretend like I'm dying every time there's cottage cheese like um, there's like a, there's another one with it now.
Speaker 1Now there's like a. Uh, tomato soup, right, it's like cottage, it's like high protein and I'll just I'm just gonna be like I'll shit a testicle if this doesn't have cottage cheese or something. Just start off with that and be like, as soon as it, you know, hits. Then you're just slowly dying throughout the video.
Speaker 2But neither of you were going. You know, mr beast level on analytics, trying to figure out like what is it that the algorithm wants, what? What is it that I can do to optimize my numbers?
Speaker 1at this point I've given up on the algorithm same he's got a whole mr beast man, he's got like a whole team and shit figuring out. My my thing goes as far as like hey, this video did pretty well. Why, why? Why people like it? Oh, that might be why why like? Make again similar, make more, do more. That's yeah, that's pretty much what I got. Be funny and be funny, make joke, give advice that work for humans. That's pretty much what I got speak monosyllic.
Speaker 1I want to do a whole video just like one word things at a time. I feel like that would do pretty well.
Speaker 2Probably it might do well with a certain demographic.
Speaker 1I mean, when it comes to the internet, any demographic you'll take, right, it doesn't matter as long as you get views. Hear food Eat now. Make this way.
Speaker 2So let's move into the call portion of our podcast. Today we're gonna have some callers come in and give you, uh, some questions really quick. So the number you call is up on the screen right now if you're listening. Uh, the podcast is probably over. It is too late to call that. We don't have any calls that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3The rest of the hour.
Speaker 1Nobody likes us silence this is gonna be our hardest hitting episode yet. People are like I'm into this shit.
Speaker 2I just took three edibles before this and now I'm feeling it what's that one john cage song 333 or whatever, where it's just three minutes of silence?
Speaker 1really I don't know that. That's a baller move and I love it.
Speaker 2This is John Cage 33, 33. It's going to spend a half hour saying nothing. I like that. This is a good thing to listen to when you're falling asleep. If you'd like to support the In Moderation podcast, get our views up for here our watch time.
Speaker 1Okay, can I ask you something? Let me ask you two something. I like the white noise when I go to sleep, right, so I download the white noise apps and I gotta ask who the hell are listening to some of these sounds besides serial killers, like some of these sounds are just like a clock ticking Tick, tock, tick, tock. I'm like if you listen to that to go to sleep, we need to check on you. Everyone needs to check on you, like immediately. Or water dripping is one of them. Water dripping from the faucet Drip, drip, drip. Psychopaths. Psychopaths are the only people that would be interested in listening to that.
Speaker 2That's the kind of noise that they play when they're trying to elicit a sense of suspense or fear in a movie. Yeah, that's not something. I want to fall asleep to.
Speaker 1Who is listening to that? How is that an option?
Speaker 3Gastids are flabbered.
Speaker 1If you're the person listening to that, send liam your favorite drip track tell me why you listen to the drip track and the tick of talks.
Speaker 2I need to know so you guys don't know what you're going to be doing in 10 years. I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 1I don't think anybody should I don't know what I'm doing in 10 days what are you guys doing tomorrow? Um, I gotta make sure my dog goes to the vet to get teeth pulled out of his face. Does that count? That counts. I think he's an italian greyhound, so their teeth are always shit and he's probably gonna have to get some pulled. We don't know, they're gonna have to get pulled, but he's probably gonna have to get some pulled this is.
Speaker 2I've gotten a tooth pulled by accident here on the in moderation podcast.
Speaker 1I think I told you guys that story weren't you eating something, and like somehow the food ripped and I don't laugh at heavy yeah.
Speaker 2so on my first appearance here, on in moderation, I brought banana laffy taffy with me to bother the both of you, um, in my own, in each of your separate ways, because one of you doesn't like Laffy Taffy, the other one doesn't like bananas, and I just started eating it silently, not bringing anything to it, just waiting for someone to mention it. And in the process of doing this, I pulled out a filling.
Speaker 1Yeah, you pulled out the filling, yeah.
Speaker 3Remind me why we brought him back.
Speaker 1I think that's why I think that's why we brought him back. I think that's why I think that's why we brought him back is because he pulled out a filling with laffy taffy.
Speaker 2Come on, that shit's impressive I have suffered the most bodily injury of all of your guests. I hope you have someone been injured worse through a taping of in moderation no, I think you are successfully the only person that's been injured.
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, and everything's been fine.
Speaker 2I did not have a stunt double for pulling out my filling with banana Laffy Taffy. I have a stunt double for this podcast. I'm going on. It's like who is this?
Speaker 1guy that looks kind of like Mike, I know what.
Speaker 3I'm doing next week. I'm hiring a stunt double.
Speaker 2Doesn't seem to know anything about his career. Sounds different. That's great His eyes are a different color. What's going on with this?
Speaker 1guy, bro, you know what I would kill for Cat eyes when they go like up and down, they have that like the vertical. That shit would be so cool they probably have contacts for that. Oh, now I got to look into that. You think I can get eyes transplanted?
Speaker 2So transplanted.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Can I get like cat eyes transplanted into my eyes? Just grow some cat eyes on the back of a rat and have them transplant them into you.
Speaker 1Why. That seems like extra work. Can't I just take them from a cat?
Speaker 2What if I ask nicely Would the eyes be big enough? You?
Speaker 1think they'll be interested. I want cat eyes Talk to a doctor. Just put them in there Like I'm a podiatrist. I'm a podiatrist, you're like, I don't care, put them in my face.
Speaker 2Bring it to a chiropractor. They are more than willing to go out of their scope.
Speaker 1I'd be more likely to do it. Yeah, of course I can do that. You want them to work better? Yeah, I want them to work better. Throw them in there, Do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 2Sorry to the three ethical chiropractors out there who might be listening to this you want a lizard tongue?
Speaker 1Fuck you. Of course I want a lizard tongue. What are you stupid?
Horse Parts and Absurd Questions
Speaker 2Adam Wright just got those fangs in. You saw that right yeah, talk to him about somebody.
Speaker 1Now we got to one-up him with cat eyes.
Speaker 3All of us are all getting cat eyes Excellent.
Speaker 2There was a period of time where I don't know if you guys were ever consumers of the Guinness Book of World Records, but there would always be an entry for somebody who had the most body modifications, and it was always some guy trying to turn into a lion or a cat or something like that. We could. What happened to that line of work?
Speaker 1Well, I know some of them like world's fattest cat, had to be taken out because people were just force feeding their cats to be fat as shit yeah yeah, so they literally don't keep track of that anymore because it's just because so much obesity in the cat population, uh, they also.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think the question is, or the answer is, that uh, people got too stupid and guinness had to stop doing it because they'd get people got too stupid explanation for everything stupid ballooning to 32 pounds as a cat, just to find out that you're third oh, it's not even.
Speaker 1I'm not even on the podium of fat cats, god damn not that they can climb up there anyway they did the same thing with um uh, most time spent awake without sleep People which are kind of trying to break that and causing a bunch of problems.
Speaker 2All of the most dangerous ones. Like they had to take out the most time shooting yourself in the head award, that one went really badly.
Speaker 1It was one for the longest time they got to do.
Speaker 2Most time spent underwater. That's it. Longest amount of time spent with a bear.
Speaker 1One guy got around the rules by being with a gay man. Just a different kind of bear, it's fine.
Speaker 2We spent 13 beautiful years together and counting. That's cute. Now that's going to be in the Guinness Book of World Records cutest love story in the world. I think it's with that one.
Speaker 1Just pick any. Can I tell you what I, what I have like? A vendetta against hallmark movies I'm glad that went.
Speaker 3I've seen people talk about hallmark movies when I worked in sleep medicine.
Speaker 1I would always go in and my patients be watching it. And let me just disclaimer here whatever you like, that's awesome. I'm not telling you to stop liking that thing, but for me I cannot stand hallmark movies. It sounds like it was written by ai before. Ai was a thing like it's just the most basic, like same story every single time and I'm just like which. I guess it's just a formula, but like damn, can we change it up a little bit? It's like it's it's. I can't. I can't with the Hallmark movies.
Speaker 3Have you seen? If you were listening to this? Please don't unfriend me because of Liam's views. Yeah.
Speaker 2Rob said nothing.
Speaker 3I said nothing.
Speaker 2Have you seen those collages where it shows the like, the posters for all those Christmas movies, the Hallmark movies, and all of the posters are the same.
Speaker 1It's like the guy's wearing green, she's wearing red. You can play them on top of each other. They would all go the same.
Speaker 2It's like how you play Pink Floyd alongside the Wizard of Oz and it lines up a little bit.
Speaker 1You just play all these movies next to each other and they're beat for beat and again like listen, I've watched Lord of the Rings for I don't know how many times, so like I'm watching the same thing over and over again. And if you like it, that's cool, but I can't, because I'm just like why this is a different movie. Do something different you know what?
Speaker 2I'm gonna be really fair here. If there was something where they're just copying the same format as back to the future over and over again, with slightly different actors each time, same beats, same storyline there and there, I think that would satisfy my autism as well. There'd be nothing I could do about it. I've got a disgusting amount of memorabilia surrounding me right now, this right here oh, I mean, it's right on your, is it?
Speaker 3you might have taken off. I was gonna say, it's my probably on your wrist oh yes, right here.
Speaker 2This is marty mcfly's watch. These are pieces of the real delorean time machine nice watch over here, I I've got the flux capacitor. Watch. What else do I have? I've got a DeLorean right here. I've got the hoverboard right here. What else can I grab? There's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3I've got the keys to a real DeLorean.
Speaker 2right here, I have spent a lot of money on something that should have been treated.
Speaker 1Dude DeLoreans, for how terrible the cars were, I would still totally drive one. They look cool as shit.
Speaker 2They do and the thing is, as bad cars as they were, a lot of them are still driving.
Speaker 1Because they look so cool. They're like I don't care how shitty this car's mechanics are.
Speaker 2I want to drive something that looks neat. It is a timeless vehicle. It has really become a true time machine.
Speaker 1Yeah, like, although other people get famous and rich and they're gonna buy, like ferraris, I'm gonna get a delorean drive that shit around let's, let's have that be part of the 10-year plan that's in 10 years driving a delorean I'm in, I'm totally in owning a delorean in 10 years.
Speaker 2We'll meet up and we'll just cruise around town at a steady 60 miles per hour, because the car didn't really go much faster than that. Without rattling, I'll be on the highway pissing everybody off.
Speaker 1I'm Googling how much a DeLorean costs.
Speaker 2They're not the most ridiculously expensive cars I have looked.
Speaker 1Okay. So it looks like if you're looking for pristine mint, you want a really good one. If you're looking for like pristine mint, like you want like a really good one, you're looking around a hundred grand. But I'm seeing some other ones for like 50, 60,000, around 60.
Speaker 2You can get them used. I've seen them as low as 32,000, 35,000 ish, which is not necessarily low for a car that's 40 years old.
Speaker 3But it's not necessarily high for a car that's 40 years old. It's not necessarily high for a car that's kind of famous.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you just happen to run into some scratch, yeah, sure you get a 1990 Dodge Dart for 200 bucks, but I want a DeLorean damn it.
Speaker 2Yeah, if you want a 4,000-pound coupe made of solid steel, then sure go ahead, grab it. Fun fact about the delorean real quick. People would think that the gullwing doors these guys right here would be a problem, like you couldn't get out if you're parked next to a car. This is only a 14 inch clearance is all you need, which is much smaller than the average car door that just opens up a big ass truck I only get like four inches on one side because parking's large search is so small.
Speaker 1Listen, rob, we're skipping over my good dick joke here. We can't we need that.
Speaker 3I'm sorry.
Speaker 2I'm sorry wait, let's, let's repeat the good dick joke. Let's get this to be the clip that plays right in the beginning yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead, say your line wait which line they're 14 inches of clearance.
Speaker 1You dummy, come on, work with me now, jesus Christ, when you're getting out of a DeLorean.
Speaker 2It's a fun fact. You only need 14 inches of clearance.
Speaker 1And if you're me, you only need two. All right. Play that at the hook, Rob, at the beginning of the episode, please.
Speaker 3All right, I will make a note of that.
Speaker 2If only we had a time machine to go back and do that the right way, the way it deserved, oh damn.
Speaker 1It looks like the average price is $64,249.
Speaker 2Well, this is a good time to announce our GoFundMe.
Speaker 1The money for a DeLorean.
Speaker 2The in moderation, delorean.
Speaker 1Listen, I know there's charities that could use it and people really need the money to pay for bills, but your boy needs a DeLorean. Come on, charity.
Speaker 2That's what we say here on the In Moderation podcast. You can have that right up front too. Fuck charity. We're getting a DeLorean. We're going to get it wrapped with in moderation insignia. We're going to basically what vinyl? Wrap the brushed steel on it.
Speaker 1I think this is all out. Yeah, I'm loving these cars. The more I look into this like I'm, more I'm sold on the DeLorean.
Speaker 2Liam is sold on the DeLorean. I'm already sold on the DeLorean. I'm ready. I'll go halfsies with you if you want. We're both too tall to get in that thing, are you kidding?
Speaker 1me right now. Listen, listen, listen. I drive a 2012 Nissan Sentra. I can fit in that thing. I can fit in this goddamn DeLorean the.
Speaker 2DeLorean, you've got to be like 5'8 to get in there.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, no, no, we'll make it.
Speaker 2Don't make it work. Have your knees ever touched the steering wheel?
Speaker 1I got cat eyes and my feet cut off to fit in a DeLorean, but man, I'm rolling in style motherfuckers. Can't see shit anymore, but it doesn't matter, I'm blind and I got no feet, but man do I look cool in this DeLorean.
Speaker 2Yeah, see, that's everybody else's problem, not mine. They can move out of the way I am cruising. What's next for you guys? What are you doing?
Speaker 1Buying a DeLorean. Fuck it. Where have you been for the?
Speaker 3I'm no interviewer, he's just reading off his list of questions. I think these are all questions that came out of a yearbook.
Speaker 2That's what's next.
Speaker 1I move to just outside of Albany.
Speaker 3New York. Your shirt says Jamaica, not New York.
Speaker 1Jamaica. That's where I got married.
Speaker 2There is a place in Queens known as Jamaica. There is, queens is in New York, so that could be where you're going. It would be the wrong flag.
Speaker 1I don't want to go to New York City, that is too much for this guy, but but. But right outside Albany is cool because you can visit New York City in two and a half hours, you can visit Boston in about two and a half hours. You can visit Montreal in about three and a half hours or so. It's nice and centrally located.
Speaker 2Crazy coincidence how all these places that were founded on horseback are all very close to each other. Crazy how nature works.
Speaker 1What a coincidence. It's almost like they couldn't go very far.
Speaker 2It's almost like that's it. Then, once they get out here to all this incidental land Dude?
Speaker 1I just listened to an episode of the doll up a great podcast. Stop listening to this one, go to listen to that one. And they were talking about the horse flu. That happened where, like all these horses got sick and this was when there was no cars and horses did everything and just like city shut down because they didn't have any horsepower and so, like it was, just everything went to shit and they were like people like trying to get the horses out there. They're sick and they're puking and it's just crazy, like every horse, every horse was sick, kind of reminds. It's like if we had like one of those solar flares and like just all the vehicles shut down or whatever.
Speaker 2All the horses lost their wifi connection Exactly. Vehicle shut down or whatever the hell the horse has lost their wi-fi connection exactly. I think I'd be nervous to ride a horse for too long.
Speaker 1I feel like I was hurting them if you were to get one part of a horse transplanted onto your body. What are you picking? What do you think I'm picking? Come on, I'm listen. This is a legitimate question. I picked cat eyes, you guys it's the main, I'm going bald. Come on, you gotta dismantle I want a nice mane.
Speaker 2Okay, we got mane.
Speaker 1Mike, what are you picking?
Speaker 2I'm going to pick the Don't disappoint me the front half of the horse. It's going to be a centaur I want to be a centaur, but without the back.
Speaker 1The reverse centaur. Just a regular it's like were just like the back half and the front half was a horse. I thought you were doing the full-on reverse centaur.
Speaker 2You're just the back half. You're just the back half, just the butt. I can't see anything. But that is everybody else's problem.
Speaker 1As far as I'm concerned, you didn't even get the best part of the horse.
Speaker 2Two back legs bent over for life. Giant dick.
Speaker 1Oh, two back legs bent over for life, giant dick, oh, this is in moderation, where we teach you about health and how to improve, improve your life we need to bring on another scientist, like we had a visha on in that one episode.
Speaker 2We I say we as if I'm running this thing you guys had well, you are just happen to be here and we were talking about something ridiculous. I forget what it was, but he was trying to assign like real science to it. It was penis enlargement, because we're children I think he was talking about, like the scientific ways that like it could potentially happen if we were to like potentially explore, like cellular destruction and like a controlled environment. He was like going really in on it, providing wonderful insight.
Speaker 1That's great. This is why our podcast is important. We ask the big questions.
Speaker 2The big questions. Very important questions. The big questions, the large questions.
Speaker 3Or for some people it's a small question, the girthy questions.
Speaker 2The doctor says it's completely fine questions. Has anybody ever asked you?
Speaker 1guys about coaching. That's a you problem question.
Speaker 2That's the big ones hurt questions.
Speaker 1It's the. I've got a good personality question.
Speaker 2This should have been the hour Back and forth on this. What's the compliment you guys receive the most and what is the criticism you receive the most?
Speaker 1Oh shit, For me. Mine is I get the weight loss most. And what is the criticism you received the most?
Speaker 2oh, shit for me I received the most I. I get the uh, the weight loss, mr rogers. Very often people throw that one at me. Um, the insult that I get the most often. I don't even know. I'm gonna have to think on that. Let's start with the.
Speaker 3The compliment first my compliment I get the most is um nice beard and the insult I get the most is I hate your beard well, that's funny, because mine are also the same thing.
Speaker 1It's like cottage cheese. It's the compliment and the insult how much can you grow liam? Oh god, uh, have you ever seen an amish neck beard?
Speaker 2because boy how can I grow? Mean one of those, because you've always got the soul patch.
Speaker 1I've not ever seen anything else yeah, because it's uh, I mean I'm probably better now, but it still grows patchy shit. So I uh don't do that. Uh, but I don't really, I don't know. Like people always, you know, say like I help them. The relationship with food and stuff and not like freaking out, so much is probably the main thing is just like oh, it's gonna be all cool, and then like insult, uh, yeah, probably just the typical, like you just want people to eat ultra processed foods and sit on the couch and do nothing and I'm like that's exactly. Yep, nailed it, that's.
Speaker 3I just want people to inhale aspartame like I want.
Speaker 1Those like uh, get that vaporized, breathe it in no, no, you want people to inhale Tylenol. I mean any chemical.
Speaker 3Spread that autism around. What's your?
Speaker 2favorite chemical.
Speaker 1Red 40. Favorite chemical.
Speaker 2There was something, liam, that you had said a long time ago where you said I never expected that my career would be defending Red 40 on the Internet when I don't even necessarily want to promote it.
Reflecting on Memories and Growth
Speaker 2It's like that's not the goal here. No one's like, yeah, just drink vials of red 40. We're just saying like there are issues that go far beyond all of the stuff that fear mongers push along, and we're just like you don't have to be afraid of this, and the longer you are, the longer you'll be distracted from what you really need to be paying attention to.
Speaker 1Yeah, maybe just eat some fiber and get some sleep and stop worrying about food dye.
Speaker 2Well, don't you guys want to make steps in the right direction? Baby steps, bro, baby steps, like we're baby stepping in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1I'll give you those fucking horse feet. Then you take baby steps.
Speaker 2What are the macros of horse feet?
Speaker 1Lots of collagen, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2Collagen, incomplete protein. Useful Everybody's aware it's. You know it does have its benefits, but not as a protein. What would you most want people to know that you don't often get to say? Because I got a couple of things out today about I won't say what the event is, we'll just let it pass along, but some necessary things about tensions in our country that I really want to say more, but it you know the opportunity doesn't present itself too often.
Speaker 1I think I want to, because kind of maybe along those lines, history repeats itself. That's what I want to tell people all the time.
Speaker 3Probably just something simple like stop being goddamn dicks to each other, always solid it takes more energy to be a dick.
Speaker 2It takes a lot of energy to be a dick and to be hateful and spiteful and everything. It is actually literally the easier option to not do that. Very interesting how that works. How do you guys feel about being guests so far on a podcast?
Speaker 1How is that? We're doing what's happening?
Speaker 2Well, we're about to start recording. Oh, all right, we're just about to press the button.
Speaker 1Sorry, I was putting a bit in.
Speaker 2I've clocked out. Liam's looking up like how to get a horse cock Into a DeLorean. In a DeLorean. Will it get it under the steering wheel, can I?
Speaker 1clear it through.
Speaker 2TSA everything will be fine. Well, I think you guys did fantastic as guests today for this, this hundredth episode yeah, a hundred episodes is crazy.
Speaker 1What's also kind of crazy is like you barely remember any of it. Like what episode?
Speaker 3maybe an episode I'm like oh shit, a couple episodes ago we were talking about what to do and we were like, well, maybe we should do our what our favorite episodes or moments were, and then we were both like we can't remember it yesterday, let alone like that's.
Speaker 1It's funny because I listened to the other uh podcasts that talk about like history and stuff. They're like I don't remember any of the episodes, like I couldn't even tell you what like we talked about. I'm like I remember a few weeks ago we were talking about ear sex. That's pretty much like you and I.
Speaker 2This entire podcast is ear sex at one point, you and I, liam, we spent about 10 minutes talking about tank nuts, which were just like truck nuts on a tank yes, 300 pounds of steel alloy dragging behind a tank.
Speaker 1We don't need the GoFundMe, we just sell tank nuts to get the DeLorean.
Speaker 2This is I've got a story about just like how little we remember things, because I'm sure people do. People ever quote you guys at you sometimes and you're like I don't remember even saying that. My things are more just things. I say all the time.
Speaker 1My things are always just like everybody. I get just like I really like your videos out of 10. I'm like that's good that's good, it's.
Speaker 2I like that, you know it's it. Just, it plays into the spirit of of the ends of the videos you put out. One time somebody had sent me a picture of a tattoo that they had, with a beautiful quote on it. It was I forget at this point what it was which is going to lend itself here to the story and they sent me a picture of it and I'm like that's, that's beautiful, fantastic, thank you so much for sharing it with me. And they said, yeah, it's, this really means a lot to me. I go back to that video from time to time to listen to it and I'm like what do you mean? You go back to that video. I said oh yeah, yeah. And then I thought about it and I'm like oh wait, they sent this to me and they're talking about a video, because it's something I said that they tattooed on their body and I didn't remember saying it.
Speaker 1I hope that person's not listening to this podcast right now and you still now don't remember what it is.
Speaker 2I have now gone back and watched that video, but now I don't remember what the quote is at this point.
Speaker 1You still don't remember, Even after all, that that's great.
Speaker 2There are people out there and this is not an isolated case either. There are other people with my words on their bodies right now and I'm like some of them. I remember some of them. I'm like I said it in a video because I was having a crisis and I, I guess, I said something that sounded life-changing to you and you decided to immortalize it, and I appreciate it beyond appreciation. But my brain can only well, it's decided.
Speaker 2My first tattoo is going to be words from mike get yourself a horse cock and size yourself up for a delorean mine's just gonna be trunk, uh, tank, nuts tank nuts for uh episode 200, speaking of that same episode, because this was in that same episode we should watch uh heil honey, I'm home, oh, god dude dude, we gotta watch oh man, dude, we've got to watch, oh man.
Speaker 1We need to just watch that for an episode. We need to do that soon. I need this in my life.
Speaker 2We'll just tell everybody when to start. It'll be like a timer and then you just press play on YouTube and then we can watch it together. I mean, are they really going to be pursuing copyright on that? You're going to get the Heil Hitler production team.
Speaker 3As long as we don't play the audio and everybody's listening it to it in their own browser, we can do it but for those of you that don't know, there was a sitcom where hitler was the main character.
Speaker 2Not the real hitler, it was a an actor playing him. I don't know, do you?
Speaker 1have to specify dead.
Speaker 2We're in a post-nuance society right now.
Speaker 1Oh shit, that's funny.
Speaker 2Well, anyway, happy, happy, remember 9-11, everyone Happy 9-11.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, that's a thing for you Americans tomorrow, isn't it?
Speaker 1Yes, 9-11.
Speaker 2Yeah, certainly not happy, but it's something that we do remember, I do.
Speaker 1I was because, yeah, I mean I was 10. I was 10 when that happened, so I do remember that.
Speaker 2I would have been seven. I was on the bus. I remember thinking to myself because we had a math test that morning. I was thinking to myself how could this day get any worse?
Speaker 3I remember waking up and logging on to a video game and people started being like, oh my god, turn on the news and I went to the living room and I turned on the news. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1I remember being at school and everyone was kind of freaking out and I had no idea what was going on, because but especially since I was in albany, because I was like two and a half hours away from new york city, so it's like not far I realize everybody else is talking about being at school and I'm talking about playing video games.
Speaker 3I definitely, definitely wasn't playing hooky, don't know. I, I did. I say I was playing video games, I meant I was at school.
Speaker 1We were all at school. Everyone was at school.
Speaker 3We were at school, yeah.
Speaker 2Well, Rob, I didn't expect that this day would be marred with the image of you skipping school. I'll never be able to get through this day without thinking about it. What a tragedy you've done skipping out on your education.
Speaker 3My social anxiety was so bad in high school, which is when that happened. Um, I actually like full-on dropped out for a year because I could not handle it, and that was before you know all the diagnosis and stuff.
Speaker 2So it was just some weird thing right but you've worked on it, you've changed, you've grown. I think we I can say that about all three of us safely. If not, uh, call me out we have all grown and changed as as human beings in these last except for when it comes to penis jokes except that, no, that will never. We're only getting better at that out of 10.
Speaker 1Out of 10. Good night everybody.