In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
From Binge Cycles To Better Choices: Food, Autonomy, And The Protein Hype
A car break-in, hospital runs, property drama, and a rogue robot vacuum set the stage for a conversation that swerves from comedy to clarity. Out of the chaos, we dig into why bingeing often isn’t about hunger at all—it’s about autonomy, guilt, and the relief of choosing something no one can take away. That honesty opens the door to a different strategy: feel-first eating that reduces guilt, turns “forbidden” foods into normal choices, and slowly breaks binge routines without all-or-nothing rules.
We also challenge the “protein everything” trend. Protein Pop-Tarts, protein soda, protein cereal—when labels shout, we ask better questions. What’s the protein per 200 calories? Is the price markup worth it? We share simple swaps that deliver more value, like using an affordable protein shake as “milk” over regular cereal, or picking budget protein powders that taste fine and digest well. The goal isn’t to buy perfection; it’s to choose options you’ll actually stick with.
Pressed for time? We map out five fast meals you can make on autopilot: ramen upgraded with miso, peanut butter, and veggies; bagged salads with tuna or beans; overnight oats with coffee for a morning lift; high-fiber, high-protein lupini pasta with tomato sauce; and the unfairly maligned sandwich as a balanced everyday staple. Along the way, we dispel myths about raw foods and lectins, explain why cooked beans are your friend, and offer texture hacks—think black bean brownies, hummus, and refried blends—that make nutritious choices easier.
We close with pizza philosophy: it’s not the villain. Zoom in on ingredients, portion, and how you want to feel two hours later. That mindset—practical, flexible, and honest—beats the hype and helps you navigate weeks when everything goes sideways. If this mix of real talk and workable food ideas helps you breathe a little easier, tap follow, share with a friend who’s stuck in “protein label” land, and leave a quick review to help more people find the show.
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Let's uh start with uh first off, hello, hi everyone. I am why am I the the host? I am Mike Pridge, also known as Mike, needs a plan. I lost 110 pounds and now I hang out with these guys. We've got Liam, we've got Rob. You should know them already. If not, uh get to know them. What are we gonna talk about?
SPEAKER_00:Guys, guys, guys. I the unluckiest person you know, or what?
SPEAKER_02:Um, so far you've been pretty unlucky. Uh what happened after the break in? Did your house get broken into as well, or is it just the car so far?
SPEAKER_00:Just the car. And then did I I told you my dad was in hospital again? Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah. And then had to mediate um between the homeowner and one of the tenants because I'm kind of managing the property. Okay. And some other shit went down. Yeah. And holy hell.
SPEAKER_02:Like, are you just in fuck it mode? Are you is that where you're at right now?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I actually I've actually passed out twice from exhaustion at this point. I did so Wednesday night after I finished editing the podcast you guys did. I just threw it together. I didn't even watch it. I have no idea what you talked about in it. You cut it off at that, and I sat down and it was just I was out. And then Monday night, I again I just passed out and I slept a good like 13 hours. I woke up and I was like, I could just fall asleep again.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Because that's like iffy when you sleep for 13 hours. Sometimes you wake up and you're like, dude, I'm gonna take on the world, or like, damn, I feel like shit. It goes one to two ways.
SPEAKER_00:I would have loved to have just gone back to sleep and slept another, I don't know how much, but uh I had to I had to get up and do some things. So yeah. But either way, I feel marginally caught up at this point.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, that's that's better than non-ledely nun.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, caught up.
SPEAKER_03:Miriam Webster. Take notes.
SPEAKER_02:I would love to come up with words. Miriam, hey, wherever you're at, contact me. I have ideas. First off, I have my bean cabinet that people are like, you gotta call it the cab bee net. And I'm like, all right, that's pretty good. So we gotta get that in there as well. Yeah, it's pretty good, right? Like, that's where you keep your beans. Everyone should have a cab bean net, especially with the economy the way it is. Everyone's gonna need a cabby net. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:We're also gonna need a machine that grinds up crickets into food mass.
SPEAKER_02:Do would you would the crickets go with the beans or is the beans separate? Can we go? Do we put them together?
SPEAKER_03:We could do crickets and beans. That's I think we could do crickets and beans.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like crickets and beans would be like on an on a British menu.
SPEAKER_03:That's you get to say that. Yeah, unbans.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I'll take the um the sausage and the crickets and beans, please. With uh what does that go? What's that pair with? A Bordeaux? All right, sure. No, it sounds good to me.
SPEAKER_03:Untoasted bread.
SPEAKER_02:Or untoasted bread. Would would there be beans? Wait, are the crickets and beans going on the bread? Is it like beans and crickets on toast?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Oh, I kind of like this idea.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not gonna let's flush this out a little bit. So do we just I'm seeing I'm assuming it's like re-fried breeds, re fried breans with crickets in there, sort of just mashed up into a pulp.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I was thinking like bangers and mash. You take the mash out and you get some crickets in there.
SPEAKER_02:Bangers and crickets? I kind of like crickets and mash better, but bangers and crickets. Okay. No, bangers and crickets also has a I don't know. Both are good. Bangers and crickets. Bangers and crickets, beans and crickets, crickers and crickers and mash. Where are we at? What do we think? Where are we putting these? I want to want to one, two, three.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I just got a message. We have made zero sales on the Inmoderation cookbook.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. People would buy this purely, at least just to like give it to a friend or something. Like it's a it's a cricket based gift.
SPEAKER_03:Gag gift. This is a perfect gag. Literally, it's gonna make you gag when you get the gift.
SPEAKER_02:It's a gag, gag gift. It's a gag. It's a gag, gag gift.
SPEAKER_01:This is okay. This is good. This is too good.
SPEAKER_02:We uh I'm not listening I know we fuck around, but I kind of think this is a genius idea. A gag. Pre-orders start on Friday. Who's starting on Friday?
SPEAKER_00:Pre-orders.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, pre-orders start on Friday. Yes, I think this is I think people I I we gotta lean into it. A gag gag gift of cricket-based recipes. I think that would do I think that would do better than anything else we we have, which maybe that's not like a huge, maybe that's not the most amazing thing, but like I think I think it could do pretty well. People let us know. What do you would you get a gag gag gift for your friends just out of, you know, just a just a fucking what you call the slap of the knee and a laugh or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Perfect Secret Santa gift for Christmas coming up.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Secret Santa. I don't know if I have I ever done a secret? So Secret Santa's the one where like you where where you give some you have somebody that you give a gift to and they don't know who they get it from.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you everybody draws a name and you you get a gift for that person that you drew.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. I think that's better than the other one where like everyone fights over the same gift because some fucker didn't listen to the$25 limit, and they and they buy like a$500 speaker or something, and then everyone's just like, no, I want that one, and they keep trading for it. You know what I'm saying? What's that one?
SPEAKER_03:You're supposed to be assigned a person. So like you get a person that you buy the secret gift from. Right.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no. Yes. But there's another one where where there's no, there's another one where like you open a gift, right? Somebody opens a gift and then they keep it. And the next person opens a gift, and then they can either keep that gift or pick the other person's gift. Yeah. They pick that person and the next person goes, and it goes, keeps going like that, where you can either keep your gift that you picked out or trade with someone else. And every it always fucking happens where someone doesn't listen to the limit, and they get something like, Oh, and I got a fucking Mitsubishi. That's like, here's the keys to that. It's outside, and then everyone keeps trading for that. And I'm like, you fucker. Like now everyone wants that thing. You know what I'm saying? It's called like a black something. I don't remember. We'd have to look it up. I have no idea.
SPEAKER_03:The first person in that lineup is always gonna get screwed, and the last person's always gonna get exactly what they want.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, last person's like, yeah, no, I'll just I guess I just get to sit around and like I'm gonna look this up a little bit. What is it called? Damn, that's gonna annoy the shit out of me. But other people are screaming it at me into their like fucking car speakers or something right now. Like, you dummy. This is what it's called.
SPEAKER_03:Right in to the Inmoderation podcast.
SPEAKER_02:Tell us about the gag gift and what's that thing called. God, that's gonna drive me crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Legitimately, I I want to start working on this. I think we could have something out.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, no, no, the crickets the crickets. I mean, it's it's great for like a short, simple meal. You just have your crickets, they just like hang out. What do you feed crickets? I have no idea. And then you just grind them up into uh a bulp and you make your re-fried crickets or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:If you came here looking for things that you can do in a short amount of time to further your progress and your health, uh I perhaps maybe this isn't the place to go. Or maybe you've already wasted 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_02:Or maybe, maybe it is, because I wanted to look up, I want because I have been fucking busy all week just like moving shit and unpacking stuff and like everything. So we've been trying to like trying to get like short, simple meals. So I wanted to look up like five.
SPEAKER_00:Your house is a less of a mess.
SPEAKER_02:It's less I look, I got shelves that are out, they are not up yet. I have a box from Bear Bell that sent me, guess what they have now? Protein soda. Apparently that's a thing. Yeah, they sent me their protein soda with 200 milligrams of caffeine. I'm like, damn, Bear Bell, calm the fuck down here. I'm already high energy. You don't need to give me 200 milligrams of caffeine for this for what's going on here. Uh, but I guess I will be trying that soon. There's three different flavors. We'll see. Everything has to No, this is kind of where I want to go. Everything has protein now. Uh, you know what I picked up today? Protein go-urt. That's what kids need. Fucking protein go-gurt, and there is uh uh protein pop tarts. Have you seen protein pop-tarts? Have you seen that's a thing? 10 grams of protein.
SPEAKER_00:I went to Timmy's today and got a protein ice cap.
SPEAKER_02:Protein ice cap? Like, is that ice cream? What's that?
SPEAKER_00:Ice cappuccino. Ice.
SPEAKER_02:Ice cappuccino. Okay, yeah, I don't know what I don't know what that is. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Apparently, Timmy's now has protein coffee and protein ice coffee.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. Like, yeah, this is the thing. It's just like everything, everything is protein-based. And it's just kind of like, do you do I kind of feel like it pushes us away from the other things that we kind of need, right? Don't everybody else back me up here.
SPEAKER_03:Not only does it push us away from the things that we need to be looking at, it also isn't particularly true. Like with the protein Pop Tarts, this is something that's been bothering me for a while. They added an extra like four grams of protein, but it's the same amount of calories. So it's still like 400 calories for the uh two Pop Tarts, and you're getting 10 grams of protein. Oh, yeah, the Pop Tarts.
SPEAKER_02:No, the Pop-Tarts went from four, I think, to 10 for 400 calories. And it's like, okay.
SPEAKER_03:You get better macros from peanut butter.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, which I just got protein peanut butter. I'm not gonna lie. It was it's 10 grams of protein as opposed to seven. And I'm like, okay, sure, sure, Skippy.
SPEAKER_03:There needs to be regulation on what they can put protein on the label of.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's a good point. What do you okay, okay. You think like, I don't think we could uh put it up to like the protein bar standard, right? Where it has to be like 10 grams of protein for every 100 calories. I feel like that's a bit high that we'd have to make it. But like at least, at least 10 for every 200 calories? 15, maybe? 50, I don't know, something, something like that. Because yeah, it is kind of ridiculous that you say 10 grams of protein for 400 calories and be like, it's protein. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It can't be bad.
SPEAKER_03:You'd have to eat like like 10,000 calories to get your daily amount of protein. Like it wouldn't be feasible.
SPEAKER_02:That would be a delicious 10,000 calories of Pop Tarts. How many Pop Tarts could you eat before you're like, all right, I'm gonna throw up. I can't eat any more calories. I have this answer. I've done it. Yes, I would love this answer.
SPEAKER_03:I've eaten two boxes in a sitting.
SPEAKER_02:No, not two boxes. Wait, isn't okay, so there's a pack, isn't like each one have a pack of like four. There's eight Pop Tarts in a box. There's yeah, I was gonna say there's four, two, so there's eight Pop Tarts. So that's sixtep?
SPEAKER_03:I don't feel good.
SPEAKER_02:I really I'm shocked. No way, sixteen pop there's I couldn't eat six pop-tarts.
SPEAKER_03:I'd follow. And I I mean back then I really shouldn't have either.
SPEAKER_02:No one should ever do that unless it's a good thing. Over the course of a couple hours now depends on it. I don't know what scenario you ended up there, but sure.
SPEAKER_03:My life depended on not doing it.
SPEAKER_02:16 Pop Tarts? All right, let me so at Pop Tart 9, were you just like, ah, fuck it. You're just like, I'm still I'm going hard, or was it a challenge at that point where you opened up the second box and you're like, whatever, I'm in this shit.
SPEAKER_03:I'm I'm at that point when I'm buying the boxes at the store knowing that I'm about to bring these home and do something unspeakable to them. Like it when I bought things as a a bigger guy with the intention of destroying them, I never did so with excitement. It was always like, ah, fuck, it's about to happen again.
SPEAKER_02:You just felt did you just feel this drive to do it? Like this ink, this like, I don't know, like this the what were you feeling like in that situation?
SPEAKER_03:It was the only thing I could choose. The fact that I could point at something and say, no one's gonna tell me not to have that. No one's gonna ask me, well, why do you need that? Why do you have to have that? Because that was how I was received everywhere else in my life at that point.
SPEAKER_02:Was it okay? So you just felt like you it was like something you could choose and you needed the ability to choose, like you're you're like, I need some autonomy, and so I'm just gonna do this. This proves to me that I can do I can just do it.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I was at McDonald's three times a day, not because the food was divine, but because I could ask a question and get a favorable answer. And also at the time the food dropped on my lap, I was already disappointed. I'd done the thing I came to do.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay. How did you get did was and I'm sure I mean I'm assuming there was like a turning point, and it wasn't just one day you're like, oh, I'm good. There had to have been like a transition there.
SPEAKER_00:Oh sure, the 17th Pop Tart.
SPEAKER_02:That's when you're like, I'm done. I draw the line here. We're done. If these were protein pop-tarts, it would be fine. But obviously, I can't.
SPEAKER_03:At that point, yeah, then I'd I at least get 40 grams of protein out of the deal. But God, yeah, it was it wasn't good. I mean, and a lot of people out there can corroborate on this, but it's I think a lot of us are nervous when we deal with this kind of binge tendency to say that it's not good or that we don't like it because it's the only thing we get to enjoy. It's all we get to have.
SPEAKER_02:But you're saying there isn't that much enjoyment in it, right?
SPEAKER_03:Though like maybe the first one, but like after a certain point, it's just like it's the mechanical routine of just eating more. Not like I'm excited about the ninth pop tart.
SPEAKER_02:Right, because you know how you're gonna feel afterwards, right? So you gotta be kind of eating as being like, I'm gonna feel like total shit after this.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you you know that buying it that you're gonna feel like shit.
SPEAKER_02:Right, you already know that. Yeah, so then like what yeah, I'm curious, like was there was there when when you stopped doing that, was it just kind of a slow, like you did it less? You did it less often?
SPEAKER_03:I did it, yeah, less I mean like for many years going into the point where I'm at now, where like this year I've only had uh like two or three things that I would consider a binge, and none of them on the level of 16 Pop Tarts. It's just like I maybe ate 500 calories more than I intended to.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:But it's at first it was, yeah, I know, right? Shue me. Um because maybe I won't have enough money to buy more binge foods. But yeah, it was it really was just like uh yeah, it's it's happening a little bit less. Like throughout 2022 and 23, I was I was still doing it on a fairly regular basis, but it was less.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, and it was more controlled. Yeah, I'm kind of curious. So was was there things that stopped you? Like you were gonna do it, and then you're like, uh, maybe I don't do it this time because of something, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:When I started to separate myself from the feeling of guilt around food, and when I started instead, like a lot of people will say, I've got to stay within my calories, and once they go over their calories, they're like, Well, fuck it, I'll go out and slash the other three tires. What really made the difference for me was focusing on how I felt rather than what the numbers said because I needed the habits. I didn't realize I was forming habits at that point, but what I realize now and what I teach when people come to me for this kind of thing, it's like focus on the feeling first. You don't actually enjoy eating an entire eight-pack of cinnamon rolls. You don't. You like one cinnamon roll, except for Rob, who has an iron stomach.
SPEAKER_02:Apparently. Sorry, I have a Roomba's that's right behind me. Uh, we we got a Roomba, apparently. My wife was setting it up, and clearly it's set up because I got a little robot fucking sucking up the floor behind me right here.
SPEAKER_03:Did that shut down during the Amazon thing? Was that one of the things that was?
SPEAKER_02:It's not napping, it's right here. It's going all it's all around me. Oh, mapping. Sorry, I thought it was napping. My bad. Mapping, napping. They're both the same word. Go away.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, Roombas do need a nap now and then.
SPEAKER_02:They do, they spend so much time sucking. That's that's nice. We've given into the robots. Cloudnet. No, Skynet, Skynet, Cloudnet, Skynet, whatever it is. Who gives a shit? So, so I mean, like, okay, so like removing, so you kind of removed the guilt and you were like, okay, I can have this. Like, it's okay if I have this. Like that, that kind of that just doing that helped a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:It made the food less special. When I put food into two different categories of this is something that is untouchable and super good, and this is something like because I never craved ground beef. Right. Like just unseasoned ground beef. It had to be something that was tasty and forbidden and everything. Now I do because I like the feeling that I get from those better whole foods. But I also love my ice cream.
SPEAKER_02:Right. That's the part I think gets left out a lot. It's like, why do I why do I eat healthy? What's the main reason? Because I feel better, honestly. Like when I don't overeat and I eat and I try and get like fucking fruits, vegetables, all that bullshit, whatever healthy stuff, then I just feel better. Then like I know if I wake up and have, yeah, like frozen cinnamon rolls, I'm just not gonna feel like I want to do very much.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Speak for yourself again.
SPEAKER_02:You're just waking up in frozen cinnamon rolls, like eight of them, and then you're ready to take on the day.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm in Canada every time.
SPEAKER_02:So do you do that after the 13-hour map or before? Because I feel like it would be before, and then you go into a coma.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's that's about that's about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Sugar, fat, and taste coma.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. But do we do an episode where you eat an entire thing?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:An entire thing of cinnamon rolls? Sure. Yeah. I just want to watch it. Um my cinnamon rolls. You know, I did that with that same thing with uh chips. You know, when it was like a taboo thing, I was like, oh, well, you know, I want to I'm gonna have these chips and these chips and these chips. And now it's like they're not anything special. I walk past the chip aisle and it's like, yeah, I can I can have those if I want them, whatever. I see a nice, a brand new flavor, I'm like, yeah, I'll I'm gonna try that.
SPEAKER_03:But everything else is like, yeah, I'm much more about novelty these days. If something is interesting and new, I'm going for it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I get that. Well, good thing with the food space, like everything's new. We got protein pop-tarts, we got protein everything. Whatever you want to try, protein soda, sure, try it out.
SPEAKER_00:And those protein things cost so much more.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they do. Like, so much more expensive. Like the fucking cereals, bro. Who ten dollars for a for a box of cereal to me is wild.
SPEAKER_00:That is wild, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And there's smaller boxes too. So they're not even that many servings in there. And they always break it down into servings, like it's only like a dollar eighty for serving. Get the fuck out of here. I'm like frosted mini weeds are like two bucks, and I get like 12 servings. Shut up. We're comparing you to other cereal, you fucker.
SPEAKER_03:I I will say that the ghost cereal is pretty good.
SPEAKER_02:Of all the protein cereals, I've said that that's probably the best one, but still it breaks down into this powderiness after you eat it. And I'm just like, do I want that? Or can I just add a protein shake to you know my cereal? You know, I just picked up uh Dimatized has well, they've had like uh protein powder that's fruity pebbles flavored, and I just picked up their shakes. Now they have like pre-made shakes that are fruity pebbles. Like, fuck it, there's 30 grams of protein. Throw that as my milk for some cereal, and boom, there we go. That's better than like protein cereal. Get out of here.
SPEAKER_03:Six star has a fruit loop flavor and a frosted flakes flavor, and they're both very affordable.
SPEAKER_02:They are like a Walmart brand, or are they just like that's yeah, that's a Walmart brand.
SPEAKER_03:I get them from Walmart. You can also get them online for cheaper. I like I got both of those for$14 each.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It was very affordable protein powder.
SPEAKER_02:I've heard mixed reviews on those, so some people are like, no way, but like it's cheap. So like what I say, try the cheap thing. Try the cheap thing for people. Always ask me about protein powder, and they're like, what one's the best? I'm like, there's no protein powder for me that's like head and shoulders above everyone else. Like, this is so good at all the protein powder. They're all protein powder. They're all protected.
SPEAKER_00:I just remember being made in the same factory.
SPEAKER_02:Like, yeah, and that's the thing, it's like you get these people selling it, and I get it. They're like, no, this one's totally different. It doesn't taste like the other. No, yes, it does. It does. It tastes just like the other ones, but yours is like cinnamon booth flavor. Like, I get that. And and if you like cinnamon booth, then go for it. But like, it's not so much better than the other one. So I never really know what to tell. I'm just like, listen, they're all protein powder. You gotta just like try different ones. And I know that sucks to be like, well, I'm putting paying$30,$40 for a thing. Oh, I don't like it. Like, see if they have the little you know, trial size things or whatever. Maybe try that online. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:No, Slave City.
SPEAKER_03:What's the one? There's a a carnivore influencer that had a protein powder.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. Paul Saladino. I have that in my basement.
SPEAKER_03:It's awful.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, no. For a Fat Guy Fitness sent it to me, and I'm like, I've had it, and I'm just like, I don't want, I don't want to try it. Like, I know it's gonna be so abhorrent that I just I can't bring myself to put it in water and drink it, you know, because it's just like fucking bull testicle skins and shit. Like, I don't want to flavored.
SPEAKER_03:It's there's no like it's you are just putting protein into water, and it's like just like our aunt. Yeah, it it is dog food. It tastes like I'd rather eat just straight up dog food.
SPEAKER_02:At least there's crunched.
SPEAKER_03:We drank that on the uh the American Heart Association uh fundraiser. Yeah, it was it was one of the goals. We had that in the carnivore bar, which is just like pemmican fat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's just a fat bar with that sounds so bad.
SPEAKER_03:It was really not good. What was good was Scotty's protein powder. Speaking of Scotty, I had some of that while it was in development. Oh, okay. And it was quite good. It is now out, so it's not secretive.
SPEAKER_02:How much is Scotty paying you to say that? Right. Code, Mike needs a plan.
SPEAKER_03:Hold on, before I go any further, let me let me check my Venmo. Dude, just look into the TikTok shop.
SPEAKER_02:I'm telling you, like anything with like I'm all my I think across like everyone's video views are like down on TikTok. The only ones that do well are when I link something in the TikTok shop. They're just like pushing that so on.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Just fucking link everything. Ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03:Views have been down for a lot of people in general right now.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's most I'm just like whatever.
SPEAKER_00:I should get your TikTok information and link your you to the Tink Tok TikTok shop with the in moderation shop. And so in moderation stuff every post.
SPEAKER_02:I should just fucking link that. Exactly. Oh yeah, and also here's a sweater. Like it'll probably do better. Like it reached more people and maybe help them.
SPEAKER_00:I'd love to link it myself, but you know, Canadians still don't have it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh right, Canada. Yeah. Let's let's fundraise to get Rob to the US so he can make some.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if he wants to come to the US right now. I mean, there's it's just not like you know, there's a lot of race for us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be with us. I'm I'm very excited about that. Now we just gotta apparently I I just found out, what, a week ago that you two have never met in person.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But wait, I don't go to like events or some shit. I never go like I never go anywhere. The only reason I went to freaking uh what's you call it, Arnold is because I lived 15 minutes away from it.
SPEAKER_03:That was that was it. I'm also not a fitness event guy.
SPEAKER_02:Right? So I've not made it.
SPEAKER_03:I I had assumed you guys met on Twitch.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, fair. Fair like reasonable. Why?
SPEAKER_00:What's happening?
SPEAKER_02:Oh boy, we this podcast was gonna be short, it's gonna be real long now.
SPEAKER_03:So in 1776, let them know Oakley's gotta stay overnight.
SPEAKER_01:But no, this is rough. It's it's it's fine. It's it's all it's all fine.
SPEAKER_03:It's a good one if at some point there are archaeologists listening to this podcast a few hundred years in the future to try to glean what was happening. We currently still there's a part of us that assumes that this is not gonna end in nuclear fallout.
SPEAKER_02:Just look up crickets. That's all you should just look up crickets and you'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_03:And buy our cricket recipe book. Yeah, they'll be eating their crickets and mash listening to old podcasts and like oh, that's where it started.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, cricket powder, like cricket protein powder?
SPEAKER_03:You think we could, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, there's cricket powder for like flour and stuff, you know, like you use it, you sub out some flour and you use cricket powder.
SPEAKER_00:There's definitely cricket protein powder.
SPEAKER_03:If if somebody made me fucking blueberry muffins and I bit into it and there was a fucking cricket in it, I'm either losing my mind or thanking in moderation for the uh recipe. Is that what we're talking? Cricut flour? Yeah, there's cricket protein. I've got cricket protein.
SPEAKER_02:There's definitely cricket protein. You make like cricket bread or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Cricket. Because here's the thing if we put these recipes into the the book, we're gonna have to make them to make sure that they work.
SPEAKER_02:Are we? Or can we just fucking say we did? I'm I'm more on that side.
SPEAKER_03:We've got a golden opportunity for one, a gorilla marketing campaign, and two, to make a whole fuck ass amount of money on selling cricket protein powder through a TikTok shop on Inmoderation. Tell me I'm wrong.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, well, just get Scotty to sample them all for us. Nobody tell them they're cricket until afterwards.
SPEAKER_03:It's made of crickets. Seriously? Fuck v shrimp.
SPEAKER_00:You're getting pretty good at that. I gotta get myself a mustache. But Mike, Identity identity theft is no joke.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely. Sorry, white elephant. That's the name of the fucking Christmas thing exchange. I'm like losing my mind over here. Or Yankee Swap.
SPEAKER_00:But that has nothing to do with black.
SPEAKER_02:It was it was a color. It was a color. You can't be there. I got the wrong color. I was like, okay, I feel better now. Now, now now I can now I can sleep for 13.
SPEAKER_03:I think you said white elephant. Because white elephant is when you get assigned somebody. I think what you're describing is a different thing.
SPEAKER_02:I thought that's listen. I'm looking at fucking AI overview here, man.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know how you think you're like you're describing the Hunger Games to me, is what you're doing. I've never even heard of this arrangement.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, man. I think I listen. I'm pretty sure. I don't know. It's something. It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03:Write in to the in moderation podcast to our P.O. box. We don't have a P.O. box. What do we have? Where can people write in?
SPEAKER_00:Uh they can write it on a piece of paper and throw it in Liam's general direction.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, just no. Put it in a bottle, throw it into the ocean, and it'll end up with all the other plastic.
SPEAKER_03:We didn't say we're gonna read it, just write in. Let it go to the great inmoderation letter patch in the Pacific Ocean to rot away and be eaten by fish.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, speaking of short on time, which we weren't talking about, but I did want to bring up because that was the whole thing. Because I'm like, I yeah, I'm like, I've been short on time, so I wanted to come up with some things. So I was like looking up, like, what's meals to make on short on time? I got five things, and I want to run through them quickly. Ramen. Ramen gets a bad fucking rap for being unhealthy. Love ramen. It really does. Like, oh yeah, you guys sodium and like I get that, but like, bro, it's super quick. It's like, well, I think they voted on like what's the greatest thing Japan has given the world, and like the unanimous decision was ramen. Like, everyone's like, no, ramen's the best thing. And like, I totally agree. Because it's so easy just to add other shit to it. I'm gonna make this like a miso ramen one with like peanut butter and like a bunch of like vegetables and shit.
SPEAKER_00:Cricket and bean ramen.
SPEAKER_02:Cricket and bean ramen, that's my next recipe. It's probably not gonna do super well. And then also uh salad recipes, which I fucking love the bag salads. I feel like those are like just super and it's like sealed, so it lasts a little bit longer, and when you buy the greens and it goes bad. And then you can just like again, just add other shit. Like, honestly, for me, what I do cut open a bag salad, throw a can of tuna in there and some dressing, and just shake that shit up. And boom, I got the I got proteins, I got fats from the dressing, and I got like carbs from the other, you know, the salad.
SPEAKER_00:And you got some exercise from shaking it.
SPEAKER_02:And you shake it and you just shake it. I I've been at work, I used to do that at work all the time. People look at me, I'm like, listen, don't knock this shit till you try it. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. I throw some like beets in there because I also really like beets, but I never put beets in those things. I guess a lot of people don't like beets.
SPEAKER_03:Oatmeal is another quick and filling one. Yeah, like the glyphosate. We can't we can't actually even reliably detect the amount of glyphosate that makes it into our food. So don't worry about it. You're being sold on garbage.
SPEAKER_02:You got the little packets, or you do like the overnight oats. I'm gonna do like a tiramisu one, like a coffee one soon. Like you put your coffee in there so that way you have your like caffeine if you're short on time, like the night before, throw some coffee in with the oats, and then you know, whatever else, like nuts or chocolate or whatever, and then you just have you have that. You eat that in the morning, like boom. Yeah, or you can even blend it into like a shake and then like have that in the morning, and just like have a shake that has coffee and oats and chocolate or whatever, whatever is easiest, you know. You talked about pasta before, like that's something that's like I go to all the time. My I have a cabinet that's like I got the bean cabinet, and then I have a pasta like there's like full of pasta.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know about Brahme pasta?
SPEAKER_02:Brahme pasta. What the hell is that?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, B-R-A-M-I. Look it up. Brahme pasta. I it is I have 20 boxes of. I'm not even kidding you.
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna say, I feel like you've mentioned it before.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they don't hardly ever stock it. I've only ever seen it at Walmart. It is it's made of lipini bits. Yeah, and it's so good. It's got a great, it doesn't fall apart like chickpea pasta does. Chickpea pasta does do that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it's got nine grams of fiber like per serving.
SPEAKER_03:And 21 grams of protein, though it is technically incomplete if you consider the amino acid profile. But we're not gonna get picky here. There are ways to complete that.
SPEAKER_02:I guess that is for 350 calories, but still, like that's typically people aren't eating.
SPEAKER_03:That's the same amount as a usual pasta for that same serving.
SPEAKER_02:Because like the serving size is like two ounces dry, but like who the fuck is eating two ounces of pasta? No one.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's the same amount of I have no idea what an ounce is with great macros.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's 8,000 grams or something. One ounce is not 8,000 grams.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Not even no one knows the conversion anyway. Just move along. It's fine. But yeah, like you normally eat like three, 400 calories worth of pasta, so that's more like actually reasonable. I like that too. And again, like you had sauce, and like what the fuck sauce is made out of? Tomatoes, boom, vegetable. Problem solid.
SPEAKER_03:I eat that literally every night. Really? Like that often?
SPEAKER_02:And I'm also getting suddenly become obese. And you're also getting iron, apparently. Like it's good to be able to do it. Getting iron?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's beans. They're magical food.
SPEAKER_02:Fucking beans are so great. Beans are the best, man. Oh, but don't eat them raw. I saw this thing where there was like a woman that was like grating raw beans and then putting it over her like meal and be like, it's crunchy. And I'm like, it's poison. Yeah, we don't want to do that. It's crunchy poison. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Tell the uh the viewers why it is that that is poison, just so they know.
SPEAKER_02:That was that's very high in lectins. There's people like Dr. Gundry, they're like, don't eat beans because they have lectins. Once you cook them, you're good. Don't eat raw uh beans. Bad idea. That's no, that's no point. I gotta try this Brahmi Fasto though. I'll look for that when I'm at like Walmart. Apparently, Target sells it as well.
SPEAKER_03:Also, yes, for those of you who are hearing more about raw foods and raw milk and everything. Technically speaking, there are more nutrients in the pre-cooked food. However, it is more bioavailable to you if you cook it. So you will get more nutrients from the food cooked than you will raw.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't it so interesting? Like, we started cooking foods, and that's like one of the things that made our brains good. It's like our brains got better because we cooked food and we rave, and they're and people now are like, no, that's stupid. But then again, we also have people who are like think the earth is flat and shit. So like, whatever. We always go backwards.
SPEAKER_00:We live in interesting times. We live in a society.
SPEAKER_02:Next one is sandwiches, and I get very upset with like the the freaking slander, the slander that sandwiches get, like, oh, bread carbs. Like, sandwiches are so I eat I probably eat a sandwich, maybe not every day, but like most days. Peanut butter and jelly is just like the simplest thing, or like tuna or something, just put it something on toast or whatever. Like bread, I have multiple types of bread. I also picked up um peasant bread at the bakery. It's called peasant bread. Can I tell you what that is? I absolutely cannot. But what I can tell you is it has to be good because I mean, what do peasants know besides bread? Like, that's it. They gotta be good at bread at least. And potato, yeah, sure, potatoes, you throw that in there too, but they definitely know they're bread. So, like, and so like, yeah, throw other shit, like you know, it's usually when you have a sandwich, you throw like some sort of like vegetables and shit on there. Like, sandwiches are awesome.
SPEAKER_03:Bacon, egg, and cheese most mornings.
SPEAKER_02:Bacon, egg, and cheese. I like that. You know what I do like is um I I actually am a fan of the morning star like black bean burger type things. Like, those are so simple. That's just like beans, that's an easy way to get beans. Like, if you don't like texture and shit, like throw it in a sandwich or bun or whatever. Like, there you go. Beans, throw an onion on there, tomato, problem solve.
SPEAKER_03:You tried the black bean brownies, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I do like black bean brownies. I like it. I you blend black beans with like a little bit of water or something just so they blend up, and then you put it into a brownie mix. And it's like, oh, yeah, if you're having issues, people ask me, like, I have to the texture of beans, uh, and I'm like, black bean brownies, hummus, refried beans, uh, you know, pasta made out of beans. Like, there's so many options now. You have like nearly endless options. Black bean burger, something. Uh, and then the last one is pizza. Damn, I love pizza. Let me tell you, let me tell you, there's a place down the road called Gusto's. And if you're in like the Albany, New York area, that's been my favorite so far. And it's like there's like this old guy who's kind of crabby, but you know he makes good pizza, like you can tell immediately. He's like, What do you want? You're like, oh, this is gonna be some good ass fucking pizza. Yeah. And like it is, it's got that crispy crust that folds up. Oh, it's so and they sell by the slice. Oh, when I went to Ohio, we would go to a pizza place and I'd be like, Yeah, let me get a slice of pizza. And my wife'd be like, What is a slice of pizza? Like, you have to order the pizza. I'm like, no, no, no, no. You go in and you ask for a slice of cheese pizza and they heat it up and give to you. But apparently that's just like a New York thing, and then it's like one of the few things I'm happy to be back in New York where they just sell slices of pizza. I just want a slice of pizza. I don't want a whole pizza. I just want a slice of pizza, please, and thank you.
SPEAKER_03:It's not so common everywhere else. No, it's like not a thing. So it's yeah, that was a culture shock when I got here to Texas. Is that you can't get a slice. Why no? Why no do that? Why no they don't sell as many? Like over there at Gusto's, they're going through like you know, a thousand pies a day. They can do that.
SPEAKER_02:They're going through a lot of they're and uh re and uh and they should be because they are they are seriously, they got all and they and it's just like the rickety like fucking bench or like table that has all the cheese that's been there for like 18 years and like the red pepper flakes and shit. And I'm like, oh yeah, totally throw that on there. It's delicious.
SPEAKER_03:The health inspector's afraid to go inside. That kind of thing. Is it on a shopping strip? Is it on a shopping strip?
SPEAKER_02:But they've got that pizza oven that's been there even longer, and you're like, oh, that's cranking out some good pizzas, and it is. I've had people recommended other places, and I tried them. Like, that's good. It's good. It's not gustos. Gustos.
SPEAKER_03:It's definitely made of asbestos, that oven, but it's as long as you don't mess with it.
SPEAKER_02:Like, asbestos is fine, as long as you leave it be, and we're leaving it be, and it's fine.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna die a happy fed man.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, we know where we're getting Liam to take us when we finally get out there.
SPEAKER_02:When you make it here, we're going, we're getting some gustos, and it's right down the road, too. I love it.
SPEAKER_00:It's amazing how much people, you know, say pizza's bad for you when you take all the individual individual ingredients, and you would be like, Yeah, that's that's good.
SPEAKER_02:The individual parts are good. It's like you got you got cheese, you got bread, you got you got sauce, you got tomatoes, whatever. It's fine. Like, and then yeah, it's just throw on whatever. I always get what do you guys get? I I get I get onions, I get peppers, I get mushrooms. Those are my favorite. What do you guys get?
SPEAKER_03:I'm a meat lover guy. I like sauce and I like my pepperoni, like my bacon. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Bacon.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's good. The places that have it, try it.
SPEAKER_02:Does it is it crispy?
SPEAKER_03:Is it like crispy bacon? It is crispy. Yeah, they crumble it up, throw it on. That's not like slices of bacon.
SPEAKER_00:Crispy bacon.
SPEAKER_03:Crumbings.
SPEAKER_02:It's like uncooked, just uncooked slices of bacon up at the end. It's a little sinewy, but other than that, it's great.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm getting some strings caught in my teeth, but the smokiness is there.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, no one's basic chicken and spinach.
SPEAKER_02:Spinach? That's a good one. I like chicken and spinach. That's solid. What the fuck? The room was back. God damn it. I gotta put some cartons on or something and just like put it around. No, the dogs would eat it. But that'd be really cool if I like I could just send it off. It's hitting my camera stand. You fucker. Okay. I don't like it. Makes me fear for the future. Looking at a roombo, it makes me fear for the future.
SPEAKER_03:You can kick it. Just kick it.
SPEAKER_02:Put it on its back. Oh, I forgot. It also like mops the floor, so now it's all wet. Great. Let me just like lift my feet up here real quick.
SPEAKER_03:Dude, it can oil slick you so easy. Like all it would have to do to keep you trapped right where you are is just dispel all of its liquid right there, and you wouldn't be able to walk around it.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I'm I'm very unconvinced.
SPEAKER_03:Wiley Coyote ever hacks that thing, you're in trouble.
SPEAKER_02:I could do that thing from what's it? What's um what's the movie where like dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun and they slide across the floor?
SPEAKER_01:Is it top cruise risky business or something? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yep. I can do that. The sunglasses. I just take those all right. We just had to pay$8,000 for that.
SPEAKER_02:Copyright. That's the thing with you. I've been posting to YouTube, but they almost hit your ass with any sort of copyright for music. I'm like, damn, this sucks.
SPEAKER_03:They'll say, like, you can't make money on this in Afghanistan. Do you want to take out the two seconds of music that you sorry, listeners? We're doing industry talk right now.
SPEAKER_02:That's so true.
SPEAKER_03:Mai has blocked this in 200 countries.
SPEAKER_02:You know what else is true? I really want a DeLorean. Like, I can't tell you how badly I want this damn DeLorean. And we gotta get it. Mike. I'm in. I will not bring it up every episode at least once until I get my hands on a DeLorean. Go away!
SPEAKER_03:In case anybody's joining us for the first episode today, first off, what the fuck are you doing? Secondly, we are going to buy the next generation DeLorean, which is a quarter million dollars. And um it's kind of ugly. In my opinion.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it doesn't look that bad. Sorry, I'm far away from the mic because uh the Ruba has taken over my position, and now I am trying to escape.
SPEAKER_03:Well, see, that's how we give our autonomy up to the robots, Liam, is we give way. You've got to stand in the way.
SPEAKER_02:I'm too scared.
SPEAKER_03:Right now, what it's doing is it's learning that you will move for it. It's not mapping, it's plotting.
SPEAKER_02:It's plotting, it's asserting its dominance, and I am letting it.
SPEAKER_00:Liam's part cat.
SPEAKER_02:He's up on his up on his chair, just like it's literally all over my wires and it's stuck. Oh no. Oh no, it's gonna unplug my if I just go away, it's because it unplugged my computer. It's about to unplug my computer. Oh no.
SPEAKER_00:That's robot on robot crime there.
SPEAKER_02:This is so bad.
SPEAKER_00:Robot on robot crime or robot on robot love?
SPEAKER_03:Maybe. I don't know. Unplugging might be some kind of kink in their world.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, that's where you that's the cigarette and a nap after you're done.
SPEAKER_02:I'm away. I have to leave because the ruba is taking over my space. It's trying to move me out of my position as a podcaster, is what it's trying to do, and it's winning. I have to spool it. Welcome to Inmoderation because it's wet and I have to just scoop.
SPEAKER_03:Sure, we give you a moderate dose of info, sarcasm, and we already know the robots have taken over. Next week.
SPEAKER_02:And get some gusto's pizza. Get some gusto's pizza.
SPEAKER_03:Robot Liam and Robot Rob will be taking over.
