In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
How A Community Dietitian Fights Misinformation And Builds Better Plates
The jokes start with NASA tracksuits, but the conversation lands where most of us actually live: tight budgets, limited time, picky kids, and a million loud opinions about what “healthy” should look like. We sit down with Brittany, a registered dietitian working in population health, to unpack how real nutrition care gets done when the barriers are financial, linguistic, and logistical—not theoretical.
Brittany walks us through her nontraditional clinical role where she analyzes data from over 100,000 patients to identify gaps in care for groups like uninsured teens with diabetes or older adults with multiple conditions. From there, she builds outreach, coordinates SNAP and WIC referrals, and uses simple teaching tools—color-coded bins, photo-based handouts, and food models—to cut through low literacy and language hurdles. Her favorite tactic: nutrition by addition. Instead of chasing perfection, build meals by adding what’s missing—protein, carbs, fiber—so you can eat well in any setting, whether it’s canned beans and rice or a bagged salad with chicken.
We also go deep on wellness hype. Expect sharp takes on greens powders, breath gadgets, and the latest “patch” trends cluttering your feed. Then we dig into GLP-1 medications: where they genuinely help, where they go wrong, and why rapid weight loss without education, strength training, and follow-up can slide into malnutrition and fatigue. Brittany argues for care teams, resistance training, and responsible prescribing, while we examine the murky ethics of influencer discount codes and black-market peptides. Finally, we talk research funding and why big food money often keeps university labs running—plus how to demand transparency without abandoning science.
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I d Brittany, I did not realize that NASA was making track suits.
SPEAKER_00:That's pretty cool. NASA? This would be something super cool.
SPEAKER_03:I d what what is this fit? I want one. It's NASA.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, this is the Florida Gators. This is Florida Gators. NASA's farming.
SPEAKER_05:Oh no football. No ball sport mic, no.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, look, that looks like the like the uh the the space shuttle suits. That's all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_05:You look it up, you'll see a gator's mouth. It kind of does.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I can't see anything with like eight pixels.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, what's at the end of the day, what's the difference between Neil Armstrong and Tim Tebow? They're basically the same person.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. When I was at the University of Florida, he was there.
SPEAKER_03:Tim Tebow was the first guy to nail on the moon, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, welcome back to Inmoderation, the show where we give you a moderate dose of info sarcasm, and we already know we're not approved. And uh today uh we've got a very special guest, one of my my close friends and registered dietitian. Brittany, you have a new last name.
SPEAKER_01:Brittany Forbes.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, Britney Forbes. Hello. Yeah, your your name is not current on uh on Zoom here, but I was like married.
SPEAKER_01:I did, yes. Brittany Forbes, officially.
SPEAKER_05:Tried to escape a past life. How close am I? Hot or cold?
SPEAKER_01:Very cold. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:Damn it.
SPEAKER_01:No, no escaping past life.
SPEAKER_05:Felt pretty confident about that shit too. Well, okay. Yeah. All right. I want to know what made you want to become a dietitian. It's got to be for the money, right? That's why. That's why every dietitian I know, they do it for the just high paychecks that they all get. Uh usually from Monsanto, I'm assuming, as well as Pink Pharma, PepsiCo, all of those. According to the comment sections on most videos, that's what it seems to be. So that is that's is that's why you did it?
SPEAKER_01:100%. Yeah. So when I was applying to be a student at the University of Florida, um, the interview was actually with PepsiCo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can also meet Mr.
SPEAKER_05:Pepsi. That's dope.
SPEAKER_01:So it was kind of weird because I was like, I really just wanted to go to college, but I had to, you know, sign a contract and then an interview.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you had to indoctrinate yourself.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, I was a little bit here and there, but then I became a dietitian and now I make millions of dollars.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. And now you can afford fancy jumpsuits.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, fancy.
SPEAKER_05:Fancy NASA gator jumpsuits. I love it. Okay, okay, but seriously though, what what uh within the field of dietitian, what do you focus on? What did you decide to focus on? Is it angry ranting? Angry Well, that's definitely, but we're coming up on Wow.
SPEAKER_01:So I kind of live multiple lives as a dietitian. Um, I work in the outpatient setting. Um, I focus mostly on population health, which um is a little bit of a niche area of dietetics in terms of the clinical size. So it's uh a non-traditional clinical job. And so what we do is we take mass amounts of patient data. We have over 100,000 patients at my company, and we are looking for gaps in care for different populations, whatever population we want to extract. So this could be diabetics, so then we can get more specific than that. We say diabetics over the age of 50, diabetics under the age of 20, or anything like that.
SPEAKER_03:That's our demographic.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:For the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:So is diabetics under 20?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Spotify's getting real specific with the demos.
SPEAKER_05:Right. So you take you take these populations, you see these ones aren't getting enough Pepsi, those aren't getting enough lucky charms, and then you try and figure out how to get it to them. Aspartame supplements.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I'm saying if you can increase your daily intake of added sugar, the diabetes actually goes away. It's diabetes here with a wheel. Yeah, yeah. We just overload the system to the point where you're just like, yeah, I need to reset my blood sugar.
SPEAKER_05:It's like a like when you just put too much and the body just kind of shuts down and then boots back up, right?
SPEAKER_00:Pretty much, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Awesome.
SPEAKER_00:No, literally you can do that.
SPEAKER_05:When there is an amount of sugar. Oh, yeah. Diabetic coma, and it's just a full-on reset, and diabetes goes away.
SPEAKER_01:When a diet a newly diagnosed diabetic comes to my office, that is literally what they say. They're like, I I never had diabetes until I went to the hospital and you know, they fed me a juice or something. I'm like, you're right.
SPEAKER_03:No, I never saw that planet until I looked into the telescope.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:You know, like it was there. So that's one thing. So is that kind of one thing? And then you do other things as well, or is that mostly what you focus on?
SPEAKER_01:In my like day-to-day job, yes. So we find the gaps in care, and then whatever those look like for nutrition, I go in and I close the gaps. And so the goal is to improve patient outcomes. So this could be A1C, this could be weight, this could be um kidney markers, there's a bunch of different things. Um, and then I also do health promotion. So we focus mostly on providing health care to the underinsured, the uninsured, and the undocumented. So a lot of people are very fearful of coming to the doctor because they they're worried about their immigration status or whatever. But in our mind, it's like we don't want to, we don't want you to end up in the hospital. It costs everybody a lot more money, it's a lot more dangerous. Um, and so I'm part of the team that goes out into the community encouraging people to come and get preventative care and get care for um chronic disease management, like type 2 diabetes. That's like that's probably most of what I do. I run some grants, I do a couple other things, but yeah, day to day. That's what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_02:I thought people like you got ran out of the US.
SPEAKER_00:I'm still here fighting. I'm not giving up.
SPEAKER_03:That's I'm glad that this exists. Like, I because I mean, you know, anybody out there listening who may be fearful of doing something like that, it's it's good to know that there are services available for them.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, pretty much any federally qualified healthcare system is doing what we're doing. They're not all that common. Um, and I think there's only a few in Florida. So every state has like one here or there, but they're usually relatively small. And they they're run similarly to a hospital, like a hospital system. So they're they're they have like private funders, they have public funders, but they're the difference is that they're getting massive subsidies from the federal government to make sure that the care is affordable and accessible to the most vulnerable populations.
SPEAKER_03:Now, there's um, you know, when it comes to dietitians, there are a lot of people out there with some, I would suppose to say mixed opinions on how things should be treated and administered and everything. How do you go about taking care of somebody when they're in front of you? Like, what are you assessing? What are you looking for, and what's your path forward?
SPEAKER_01:Sure. So I am a very like uh conversational dietitian. So that's my that's my counseling style. Like, we're just here to talk. Like, let's have tea time in my office, come and tell me everything. Like, I we just want to have a conversation. Um, I don't like to be very authoritative. I don't find that to be very effective. A lot of people want to change, they want to be better, um, and they don't want to be talked at, they want to be talked with. So I usually ask, like, I'd obviously introduce myself, uh, other than I'm the spacewoman and come to my office, and we're gonna, I'm gonna indoctrinate you with NASA information and uh PepsiCo. But um, no. Usually I will ask someone like, what are your goals and what are you trying to achieve by talking with me today? That's like my script. I say that to everybody walking in because I know what I want to get done with a patient, but if they're not on board, then nothing's gonna change. So it really goes to them to tell me what they're really looking for. And then I have like a list of questions. I usually like kind of make it fun. I'm like, I have a little bit of an interrogation today. I'm gonna ask you a list of questions. Yes, no, maybe. The more honest you are with me, the better I'm able to help you. So we kind of talk maybe like 15, 20 minutes just to kind of gauge like what their needs are and where the gaps are. And then I'm from my training, I'm just like trying to figure out like what do we do next? And it's gonna look different for everybody because I I mean, we are sifting through literally thousands and thousands of patients. No two patients are gonna be the same, even in the same population. Because we could have, I could have a diabetic, let's say, who's 25 years old, but one doesn't have insurance and one does. That already changes the recommendation because it's clear that you know one is underserved and one has the resources that they need.
SPEAKER_05:And then you just try, I'm assuming you try and focus on the people who who need, you know, figure out what they need and you know help them. So I'm wondering like, what are your the resources you have? My daughter wants to watch Dory as well. Yes, Dory loves Dory, it's the best. I know Dory.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna like six time watching Dory, you know the whole script at this point.
SPEAKER_03:Not sponsored, but we can be. Disney, listen up.
SPEAKER_01:So, usually for somebody who needs a little bit more support, it's seeing like what they have to work with. So I have, I do have a patient right now who does not have access to a kitchen regularly. And that's really challenging because they're living on a lot of ultra-processed food, the the big, ugly, ultra-processed food. Um and I'm like, Do you have a crock pot? Can you plug anything in? We can work with that. If you can plug anything in, like, we'll find a solution, no problem. Um so that's what we've been working with. So it's not most of the stuff is not fresh and it's not frozen. Most of the stuff is canned. But I usually say that if you can find a recipe that you like, any recipe, it can be adapted. A recipe is a suggestion, it's not an instruction. So if you if you are like this recipe calls for chicken and you don't have fresh chicken, like you can use canned or you canned use another canned meat. If it calls for um like one vegetable, you really, if you can find something that cooks the same and tastes the same, then you make an equal substitution. So for a high needs patient, like we're we're really, I'm really well, it's me. I'm wrapping my brain trying to figure out how can we adapt this to fit someone where they're at, and in the meantime, try to connect them with resources that would get them access to more. So I do sit on a county commission for food insecurity, and um, it is it is fascinating. So we have over 80 organizations who, somehow or another, want to be involved in this conversation. So I have access to a lot of different people, and we kind of use that to coordinate care. So when one person from an organization identifies someone in need, they can say, Hey, this person doesn't have health care. They say, Britt, I have this person. Can I send them your way? This is what they need. And we say yes, no, and try to make it work. So I do the same thing with the patients who, if they need SNAP, then they can go to the SNAP extension office. If they need WIC, they can go to the WIC extension office, so on and so forth.
SPEAKER_05:So I mean what's Wick? What's Wick? Yeah, that too.
SPEAKER_01:Men, infant, and children. It is food, food stamps, but for women, infant, and children only. So children up to the age of five.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it was a lifesaver. We got lots of cheese and beans, and we made it work.
SPEAKER_01:I bet.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I bet you loved those beans.
SPEAKER_05:What are the so I'm assuming then the roadblocks you see, the most common roadblocks you see are for just like a financial from a financial aspect?
SPEAKER_01:Mostly financial uh literacy is a big one too. So either literacy or language is usually a barrier, which like language at this point, I'm basically fluent in Spanish. Like, I'm like, ask me anything, I don't even need my interpreters anymore. But we do, we have medical interpreters for like over like 150 languages. So I'm like, oh, that's nothing. Like, we'll we can make that work. Um, and just making sure that people understand what I we're really asking of them um in their native language because things get lost in translation or there's not an equal word for it in their language or in English. Um, and so sometimes like people fall through the through the cracks in healthcare just because they we don't speak the same language. Um but literacy, but I've have like resources now, like I would say like client handouts that are for low literacy, like I use pictures with colors, um, or I use like bin systems. That's something that I like came up with myself. So it's like if if we can at least show you what the foods look like, I say all the foods that contain carbohydrates, put them in red. All the ones that contain fiber, you put them in blue, so on and so forth. And then we don't really have to go over like label reading and all of that stuff, because it's just not going to be possible. And we can't teach someone to read, right? They have to go somewhere else to do that, but I can work around it.
SPEAKER_03:How for those people out there who don't quite know what the difference between a doctor and a dietitian is, could you briefly let everyone know why maybe they would come to you instead of a doctor for something?
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah, so a dietitian's role is to manage chronic disease. So we cannot diagnose a medical condition. Nobody can except a doctor. And sometimes physician assistants and nurse practitioners can if they are overseen by an attending physician, which would be a medical doctor MD. So once they have a diagnosis, then the dietitians can come in and help manage that. So the chronic condition really there's a there's a bunch, but if we like sum it up, it's going to be diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, um, fatty liver disease, kidney disease, um, and obesity. So those are our chronic conditions, and dietitians thrive when it comes to managing those conditions. It could be something like if you're unsure how much like water and sodium and potassium and things like that that you need, you go to the dietitian because the doctor is there on the medical side, more for preventing the progression of the disease or treating the disease to try to reverse it or decrease the severity. But the dietitians are there to improve your quality of life and also help to manage it, right? We don't want to see you get any sicker than you are, and if we can help reverse it, we will. So we do all of the health education.
SPEAKER_05:So I'm I mean, I'm assuming that can be very difficult when you have people who have these barriers like you know, finances or language or all these things. Very right. So I'm assuming when you see people online making videos and making it seem like it's super simple to be healthy, that doesn't bother you at all.
SPEAKER_01:No, my blood's just my blood pressure is just like 500,000, and I'm like my head's exploding. But no, it's fine.
SPEAKER_05:I'm assuming that's gotta be one of the things when you see it, when you see videos online, that's gotta be one of the things that that frustrates you, right? Because it becomes online, it becomes black and white. Everything's black and white. It's just like this is the reasonable thing. Just do this, and that's it. No nuance. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like I I sometimes like sit and I like toil and I'm like, do I want to spend the next three hours like going head to head with someone online? Right. Or do I want to just read it and carry on? Because it's just like it's so endless. You guys know it's so endless. Like you could be there all day being a comment warrior, and like some people just they're never gonna get it. It's sad to say, but they're never gonna get it unless it happens to them or it happens to someone they love.
SPEAKER_05:What are the most common things you see? Like from from what what I would say, what pisses you off? That's basically my question. Is like, what do you see online that you're like, oh fuck at this shit again? God damn it.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I would say that that like lock-in, that grindset mindset that people have, that's probably like the worst thing because it makes it sound like you can just outwork any bad thing that's ever happening to you, either like just on a personal level or like on your on your health. And like you can't outwork a chronic disease. Like, if you get a disease, like you you just have to try to manage it. Sometimes it can be put in remission, but that's not always the case. But but people online are like, you're wrong. Like, you don't know. You were you were educated by PepsiCo. And it's like, yeah, okay, buddy, like, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I think they and it it's it's it's unfortunate because I get where they're coming from, where they say, like, you can treat these things or cure these things with diet and exercise. And I'm like, yeah, but they just take it the extra 37 steps, right? Or they're just like, oh, it's simple, you just do these things, and then the problem is solved. When it's just they don't realize it's more complicated than that until, like you said, it happens to them or somebody it happens with someone they know.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Yeah, and like they some people also start to go down the rabbit hole of like, well, what is health? And like who's telling us what is healthy, and like where did that originate and who's funding it? And next thing you know, these people are like, you can only buy beets from this regenerative farm in I don't know, like Australia, who like doesn't you that only uses alkalized water, like from this like reverse osmosis filtration system in their home. And it's like, okay, I need everyone to calm down because this is kind of getting insane.
SPEAKER_05:I just saw that for microplastics. Peter Atia's like, get a reverse osmosis machine and check your HVAC system to make sure it's got the right MERV. Right, Oakley? That's ridiculous. Nobody, nobody even knows what MERV is besides him, and he's selling people, and like, don't be wrong, I think Peter Atia has like good information, but it's like you're like, okay, but where's most people at, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like it just gets to a point where it's like, where's the line? And it's like you like you had good intentions with wanting to be healthier and trying to quote get to the bottom of your health, and you ended up in some like weird, magical land that's not real.
SPEAKER_03:There are plenty of people to take advantage of if you've got loose morals online. There are people that want to have some kind of solution to a very strong pain point, and when you empathize with that person, at least vocally anyway, and make them feel heard, and then you give them a solution to something that feels solutionless. It's you you can you can sway a lot of people. This is not an instructional, this is a warning. Any potential grifters out there who are like, oh, this is the magic secret. I'm gonna be the next Paul Saladino.
SPEAKER_02:We've talked about what would our magical world. I heard you guys have a war on pro or had a war on protein.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I didn't know about this war. I just learned about it like today.
SPEAKER_05:This war is completely one sided. One side has fucking M sixteens and the other one has like whatever they use in the civil war. I don't know. There's there's no one the war is completely one sided. Everything has to have protein. Yeah, and Yeah. I think I and uh obviously you know, we can rant all day about it, but I think just the the direction that yeah, here, thank you very much. Pictures, that's very nice. I think the direction they're taking it is just for it's like I see where they're coming from. They w but it re it removes like all of just like Yes, this is me. Thank you very much. And mommy. And that's mommy as well. Yeah, sorry about this, guys. This two-year-old decided she doesn't want to sleep or nap, so she's gonna be up till midnight. It's fine. This is like this is what most people are dealing with, like kids and shit, and they're doing stuff. And then they just want to boil it down, like, oh, just eat more grass-fed beef. Exactly, exactly. Muttering Rob in the back. It's most days. I got socks now. I got socks. This, like, you know, I for me, they're like, I had somebody do a video that was just like, uh, Liam, you do like a lot of videos on like all these recipes. Well, what do you eat during the day? And I'm like, what keeps me alive? Basically, like when I have a two-year-old, I'm like, oh, I have some beans from a can, and I have this rice that was in the fridge from like Chinese, and I'm putting those together and I'm eating them, and that's what keeps me alive. Yeah, the with the C D. And I probably wouldn't eat that, but other than that, yeah, I eat what like keeps me alive. And it's just, you know, it's just like, oh, if someone's in, it's like they're talking to people who are fitness influencers. That's what it feels like. Like a little bit of a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00:They're talking to themselves, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:They're talking to themselves who have all this time and all these resources. That's who they're talking to. And for those people, that's great. But how you know, what about the rest of us? And that's where I think the dietitians really come in to help. A hundred percent.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I I just had a conversation with my supervisor on like, am I supposed to teach this new like keto cone? That's what the dietitians have been calling it, the keto cone, their new food pyramid. And I'm like, I am not doing that. Like, there is no way, and I don't know, like, I'm sure I want to stay evidence-based, but then it's gonna be a interesting time with patients coming to my office who are very interested in learning and are doing their own research, and then they're going to the government websites that have been like washed of information.
SPEAKER_06:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:So it's all rewritten. I'm like, oh no.
SPEAKER_05:Like, so I'm kind of curious, like, what do you find with people? Like some of the most common uh I mean, I mean, tips or whatever, I don't know the exact word, I guess I'm looking for here, but something that that helps people. Like when you're talking to people, you're like, oh, these few few little like tips I give them, that generally helps a like a you know, a larger portion of the people that I deal with. Is there something like that when you're working with people?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, honestly, nutrition by addition. That's like that's like one of my big things that I say. I didn't come up with it, but I hear other dietitians, other people talk about it.
SPEAKER_05:It's fine. We're fine stealing things here. This is the first time that's been said.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So it's give some examples.
SPEAKER_05:Like, what do you, what do you, what, you know, like when people are asking, like, what does that mean? What do I do? What would you tell them?
SPEAKER_01:So I tell them that, like, if you can learn how to eat, you'll know what to eat. It's not the other way around. So this means that you're gonna identify your meal pattern first. You're gonna say, these are my foods that have carbs in them, these are my foods that have protein, and these are my foods that have my fiber. And once you can identify that, and you know that this is my meal pattern, so it has to have like like each one of a food from each one of those categories, then you can identify what's missing. And so you don't have to like rework the whole diet. That's not the point. The the point is to have flexibility and be adaptable so that you can eat healthily in any environment, in any situation. So, nutrition by addition, you're gonna add what you're missing to make your plate nutritious.
SPEAKER_05:I like it. So, okay, so let's say let's take that. When they go, use would you say when they go like grocery shopping? Keep that in mind. Maybe get some different things from different categories and make sure you have that at home if you can. Let's say if you're able to.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I give handouts too. So, like I have a balanced plate handout that like gives examples of like foods that are in each category. I did make um, because I have a grant program that helps to subsidize the cost of groceries for some of my most vulnerable patients. And that the both of the programs are going pretty well. Um, but I created a shopping list because the gift cards are to Walmart. So I went through on my own and looked at like all the different foods, wrote down the prices, and then I was like, okay, so how could I make some like recipes out of the things I selected? And so I have a hundred dollar shopping list, and there's like maybe six or seven meals, six or seven meals that they could get out of.
SPEAKER_05:Well, in the podcast right now, it's over. We're done. That thing's still around. It's getting blessed bad. I'm noticing it online, but it's still around.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I short circuited just now, and I was like six or seven.
SPEAKER_05:Wait a second, I know those numbers.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, but like I would I genuinely say, like, it's six or seven meals. Like I have like two for breakfast, two for lunch, two for dinner. Um and I started to use that list for like my everyday client. And I just had a patient who um I've been seeing for well over a year and always running out of money for food, getting some assistance through Snap, not very much, um, but was having to go to her sister to supplement the rest of her like nutrition for the month. So either getting some money or the sister was cooking. So I was like, you know what? I have this like grocery list. I don't know that you'll eat everything on this list, but just substitute for the things that you feel are equivalent. And she reported back, she was like, we had$25 left over, and we could buy some extra things that we wanted. And I was like, wow, like this is great. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So let's say people get a list of these different like foods. You just maybe kind of go through it, would you say, and like, oh, I like these things, I don't like those things, leave them out. Maybe I'll add these things to lifts if finances are an issue. Focus on the things that are cheaper, more affordable, or obviously that you have access to, and you know, try and stock your pantry if you're able to with those things for when you do need to make a meal. Now you know, protein carbs, oh, I'm missing, uh, I'm missing a protein in this. Okay, let me go get the chicken, the tofu, or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and I have like a lot of educational tools um in my office because I also do pediatrics. So I see like little tiny babies, I would say like as young as three years old, all the way up. So I do like nutrition through the life cycle pretty much. So I have like food displays so people know what their fruits and vegetables look like, especially when there's a language barrier. Like sometimes the interpreter's like, I don't have an exact word, like what, like what is it? Can you describe it to me? Um and so I will use my food display and some like I it's common, common fruits and vegetables, like bell peppers, onions, pears, apples, bananas. And so it's like when I'm showing people like these are your fruits, these are your grains. Like I have a bag of rice, I have a bag of beans, and then I have like empty food containers. So I can be like crackers, they are carbohydrates, pretzels, they are carbohydrates. So it's like it's it's very involved in education, and that's why I say like I'm having a conversation with someone, I'm not talking at them.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, because that's the thing, and that's what gets lost in social media. It's just like really everyone is different, and that's what I always I always have a difficult time when people ask me questions. I'm like, not only am I not your dietitian, I'm not even a dietitian currently, at least. So I can't really give you exactly and people want me to make videos on like sodium, and I'm just like, depends. Like, that's with all of these things. I just want to say it depends, and that's what it gets lost, and that's what's kind of difficult. And I know that's tough for people to hear, especially because it's and it's a short form video and I don't have a lot of time. So I just kind of want to be like, depends.
SPEAKER_01:It's true though. Like, I am a dietitian, I still say that all the time. Like, it depends. Like, like, what are your goals?
SPEAKER_00:Like, what's wrong with you? And um, that'll help me dictate the recommendation that's made.
SPEAKER_05:So do your best, you know, or do it not your best. We didn't even say do your best. We say be, yeah, don't be your worst. That's what we say here. It's just like, don't be your worst. Try and, you know, try and do what you can. You know, get get the foods that you're able to, build a meal as much as you can, you know, like you said, nutrition by addition. I like that. I'm doing that all the time here in my life. I'm like, oh man, I this I have these chips. I was literally eating like, what was it? Cheetos. It was like these, they're like nat, they're making like natural Cheetos now or whatever that don't have dyes in them or whatever. We pick them up as they're costs, naked. Yeah. And I was like, sure, whatever. Like, I don't care. But maybe for other people that matters. I'm just eating that because that's what that's what we had. And I'm like, oh shoot, I got uh blueberries, uh, cashews and this. All right, let me just shove those. All right. Oh, I need like oh, a scoop of peanut butter, like whatever. And then I just continue on, and then I get yelled at by a toddler. That's most of my day. That's really just how most of my day goes. I'm like, oh, bread, carb, okay, protein, uh peanut butter is a little bit of protein and some fat, uh, lots of fat. So that's good. All right, banana more carb. Uh-oh, I'm not not doing the protein ratio right. Oh, protein shake. Perfect. Grab that. And that's that's pretty much how my day goes. And I just I just manage through. And most of the time I'm eating like what I recipe reviews, even if it wasn't good. I'm like, oh well, this wasn't good. Still eating it because that's all I have time for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So it's and a lot of people like a lot of, I would say health conscious people, like they are doing the nutrition by addition, they just like don't call it that. But it's like you're just filling in the gaps of like you're trying to make it as as healthy and sustainable as you can, so that you're not like crashing throughout the day. Like, you want to have energy, you want to feel good. So yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. I mean, that's that's really why I like I the main reason for me trying to like eat healthier is just because I feel better. It's not because of like, oh, all these things and whatever. I'm like, I just want to feel I need energy to chase a two-year-old around. That's really what I need. And like trying to get her to eat healthy, like, too. I'm like, I don't really obviously you're at that stage where you don't be like, these are good foods or bad foods or whatever. She always wants to eat fruit snacks. She's fucking obsessed with like Scooby-Doo fruit snacks. I'm like, okay, fine, we're getting Scooby-Doo fruit snacks. They are left. They're very good. Oh, and now she has bluey fruit snacks. That's what she's watching in the other room. Now it's bluey. It wasn't Dory, it was bluey. I don't know. It's all over the place. And I throw those on a plate, and then I'm like, oh, she likes pistachios. Yes, I'm right here. And then I throw in other things. I'm like, oh, she likes berries, all of that stuff. I just throw it on the plate and I'm like, here, just eat these things, cheese, whatever. And that's that's pretty much where we're at. Yeah. That's that's that's and you have a remote. Thank you very much. Thank you. The crash on the ground. She just, if she puts a handout with a remote, and if you don't take it from her, she just drops it. She's like, here you go. And I'm like, thank you. And just drops it. And then it's done. She just drops that's how it goes. And it's just like, I feel like that's what a lot of people are dealing with, like kids and work and all these things. And it's like, how can you make it easier for yourself? Right? Oh, I got a you know, a bag salad and a rotisserie chicken. Fucking problem solved. I got things over. Oh, no, I don't have rotisserie chicken, chicken fingers or whatever. Like, you know, like chicken nuggets. I'll throw them in a salad. That's at least I'm getting something. Like, just keeping it as as simple as you can. And that that's what that's my that's my suggestion. That's what keeps me alive.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's working, it's definitely working.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, it's enough. Enough.
SPEAKER_03:Liam's over here. Like, what are the macros of locking yourself in your car in the garage and turning it on?
SPEAKER_05:I keep food in my car. Oh, yeah. No, I'm like, okay, I got this little like trail mix. I keep food in my car. I got some edamame snacks in there. I'm like, this is how I keep myself alive because I'm like, oh, I meant to bring a protein shake with me to gym so I can have that afterwards. I don't have that, and all I have is vending machines at the library that we're going to after the gym because, and like, I'm just doing what I can to, you know, keep it going. And that's just right. Like, so many people's just like, stop worrying so much, add into your diet, stop worrying about all the fucking uh influencers that their job, their job is literally to influence you, right? For a lot of these, they have no kids, they have none of this stuff. And they're just like, oh, just do I start my morning with a 30-minute get the hell out of here. Whatever you were about to say, that 30-minute my morning, like, wake up, drink coffee, get going.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, my like my wake up to the time I'm like at work in my office is 45 minutes. Like, there is no extra 30 minutes walk, wake up, make some weird protein pancake or waffle or something.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, like my antioxidant blast.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. You're like, I've been seeing like, I don't know what it is, but like the hydrogen water where they're like blending water and then drinking it or something.
SPEAKER_05:The hydrogen, they add hydrogens, Brittany. That makes it better for you. It's H3O or whatever it is. It doesn't matter. They got the little water bottle that spins and it lights up. That does look really cool, I have to admit, when it spins in a circle and they're like, it's adding hydrogen. So you're like, oh, that's gotta be good for me or something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's like how light-up sketchers make you a faster runner.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's the same concept.
SPEAKER_05:What product? What do you see products like that? What other product? Do you have any other ones that you're just like, oh god, this thing? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, yes. I don't, I'm not sure if I'm saying the name right, but the lumen where you like breathe out and it supposedly like tells you how many calories you're burning or something.
SPEAKER_05:Yes. That's one of those ones that's really like I'm gonna say good in quotation marks because like there is truth in like how much carbon dioxide you breathe out relates to like how many calories you burn. So like it takes a bit of truth and then it like sells it to you, and that's perfect for making money.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is, is like what what they're doing is like kind of similar to like like some kind of like calorimedy, or I can't even say it. I'm not calor calorimistry. I don't know, yeah, something like that. That was a big word for me just now, but um, it's supposed to be in a controlled environment, and so it's like to be like on your living room couch, like breathing out into like some whistle or something. Like that is not gonna tell you shit.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, can I tell you my most hated one? I'm gonna see it. It's up there. If it's not most hated, it's close. The fucking greens powders to this day drive me crazy because it's sold to you as if you don't eat greens, just put a scoop of this into your, you know, like into some water and you know, force it down because I've tried a bunch of them and they're the worst. They taste horrible, and it's just it has a milligram of each of these things, and it it they're just so overpriced. I I hate I don't like athletic greens. Have you seen that? It's like a hundred and twenty dollars or something per, you know, whatever unit you get. I don't know, because they have to you have to get it every 30 days or whatever. I I cannot stand greens powders.
SPEAKER_01:I've been seeing that. Uh recently I've been seeing GLP1 stickers.
SPEAKER_05:Stickers, which I'm like, how the hell does that work? What? I have to look this up right now. By the way, this is called something.
SPEAKER_01:Like, there's no No, it's not no. I don't even know like what's in it. It's like adhesive to your skin.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know, but this FDA approved. Oh my goodness.$45 to get started. I love that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it's not like a like a nicotine patch, right? Like it, I don't think it absorbs it.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's in it, but and the thing is, I just had a patient come in and was like, oh, I couldn't get throzepatitis, so I went on Timu and I got GL2.
SPEAKER_05:Oh no, this is so bad.
SPEAKER_00:That's not facts.
SPEAKER_04:Timu weight loss stickers coming in.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was like, I kind of didn't even know what to say, but I'm learning like my patients help me like stay up to date on like everything, every possibility that like exists on the internet.
SPEAKER_05:You're gonna find the scams. It's a to oh, kind, yeah. Kind patches, a popular brand on TikTok, has renamed its GLP1 patches to berberine patches. They renamed them to Berberine Patches.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, is that what's in them? I never like actually looked what was in them.
SPEAKER_05:So that must be what it is. I don't know that that's terrible and great at the same time.
SPEAKER_01:It's definitely not effective. 110% not doing anything.
SPEAKER_05:Oh no, this is bad. Oh, we've just we've just hit late stage capitalism where you try and get your berberine through patches and Shaq is on your gummies, and we just have to ride it out.
SPEAKER_00:Like, I don't know what else to do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I gotta start doing crossovers. There's one other product I'm I can't think of what it was now, but I just remember my reaction was like, what are you talking about? But yeah, the the most recent one, this just happened this week, too, was the kind patches.
SPEAKER_03:That's great. There's not endorsed by Mike Needs a Plan, by the way. Yeah, I'll stick with my cottage cheese, right? I feel incredibly unkind about this.
SPEAKER_05:It's cheap, it's cheap, it's got protein. I'm telling you, I added to like a rice, beans, cottage cheese, and sometimes maybe corn. I'll throw that in there too. Simple. Like I have that all the time. Telling you guys I just the bit these all these fucking fancy meals. You ever see one of those meals where they're like, oh, it's a 10-minute meal, and you make it, and then an hour later you're like, wow, I'm like halfway through this shit. This is not good.
SPEAKER_03:I've got 12 dirty bowls right now.
SPEAKER_05:My dishwasher is full, and I'm just able to wash them all at once. I'm 60 minutes into a 10-minute meal.
SPEAKER_03:Why don't I need four spatulas?
SPEAKER_05:You mess it up too. And like, great, try new things. I do it for videos, but like so many times I'm like, I there's no, no, I'm not doing this. I'll just buy this thing from the store, and I got my I'm not making my homemade Tziki or Zatziki or fucking Tease A, Tz I guy, whatever the hell you want to call it. I always get yelled at. And like I put it on some non I buy at the store that I probably called non-bread and got yelled at that for two with my chai tea. Yeah, whenever I say not, because non means clean.
SPEAKER_00:You can't say chai tea.
SPEAKER_05:And you exactly that's what I'm saying. Chai tea, non-bread. But listen, in my fucking defense here, we say hound dog. You know what hound means? Dog. We just say dog dog. We say I'm going to the ATM machine. Oh, you're going to the automatic whatever machine machine. We all do it. It's just like, give me some slack here. Sometimes they say an after I'm like, oh, should end editing. I'm like, oh, I'm so screwed. I'm gonna hear about this non-stop. Why do I oh you say sugar-free maple syrup? No, it's sugar-free pancake syrup. There's no such thing as sugar-free maple syrup. It's never ending. Anyway, all comments help the album. And I don't, um actually, and the um you just uh it's like, oh, really, I just made this uh tomato soup, and it's a great way to add vegetables into your um actually those peppers are technically fruits along with a tomato, so really you just made a fruit soup? Get the oh my god, this that makes me forget greens powders. That pisses me off. What are you, a botanist? Then shut the hell up. Um so yeah, like that's what I'm saying. It's just like I'm not doing all that and keeping it simple, and I just like I get food into me and it keeps me alive enough to survive toddler tumbled.
SPEAKER_03:You know, this might be the perfect opportunity to mention why it is that I I talked to you tonight about getting onto the podcast. Because we you and I we we talk shit about the the health and fitness industry quite often. And we were talking about like doing a live stream or something to air our grievances. And in all caps, I r I get a comment from you that says, I've got some shit to fucking say.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, that's that's broken.
SPEAKER_03:We need bump went off in my head of like, oh, we've got to get Brittany on here to yell about whatever it is that's pissing her off right now.
SPEAKER_05:Anything else that's going on, you got it, just go for it. That's what we're here. That's big, that's mostly what we're here for. Oh, wait, we haven't brought it up. Um, did you know the Dolorean's coming out? It's$250,000. Uh, the new one, they're remaking it. We can't afford it. We're mad about that. We want to get one. It's a recurring joke. We have to make sure we bring it up every episode. Anyway, go ahead about your rats.
SPEAKER_04:If you want in, we're taking we're taking uh co co-writers on it. It's a quarter million dollars.
unknown:Don't whatever you got.
SPEAKER_01:All my Pepsi Co. money. I mean, I might be able to call it. We're gonna afford Mr.
SPEAKER_05:Pepsi. Ask Mr. Pepsi. I'm sure I'll have to.
SPEAKER_04:BlackRock, Palantir, Raytheon, Rothschild, George Soros.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna come into a lot of money one of these days. I'm not gonna know what to do with it. I'm gonna donate it. Yeah. No, donate, no, donate it to our DeLorean fun.
SPEAKER_03:Let's uh let's air our grievances. This is the late festivist episode.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, me, like I'm down the rabbit hole of like all the peptides, the GLP1 nonsense.
SPEAKER_04:Peptides.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I am working on my board certification in obesity and weight management. I do metabolic health with all of my patients. So like that's part of chronic disease management is your metabolism. Metabolism includes all of your organs. So nobody likes to say that part. A metabolism just is a magical place where you go and all of your calories dump into a garbage can and get burned away, right?
SPEAKER_05:So then you ramp it up or burn it, slow it down based on various factors in your life or foods. Yeah, definitely got it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So I thought this would be like a really good time to kind of like branch out more and get some certs. I've got more time on my hands. So, like part of the studying is I have to know about all of the FDA approved GLP ones, all the medications that are approved for weight management, and all the ones that haven't even come out yet. And what's crazy to me is that the ones that are still in like stage two clinical trials are like being sold on the black market, and I'm seeing TikTok, Instagram, like people like, I've been on this whatever peptide for eight weeks, and this is these are my results. And I'm like, how did you even get it? Number one, like you broke into the lab and like stole it and synthesized it or something. But what I was telling Mike the other night is that really seeing the effects of these GLP ones and reading about them, they really should be considered performance-enhancing drugs. And the fact that we are mostly giving these out like unmanaged, I won't I don't want to say unregulated, because that's not true. But like to see someone who has no baseline for nutrition education, doesn't have a good baseline for their health, and suddenly they're being given these really powerful drugs and dropping like 75 pounds overnight, it was crazy. And this I have to say, I have to say it because I told Mike the other night, I was just like, I couldn't even believe it. So I work with a cardiologist who's also my doctor, and I went to see him the other day, and he came in looking like shit, dude. Like just gaunt in the face, like eyes were dark, and I I've never seen the doctor like this look this sickly. And so he was like, you know, do you happen to know about GOP1s, whatever, whatever? And I was like, Yeah, I know like a thing or two, like maybe kind of sort of. And he was like, Oh, is it normal if like you're having nausea, you've been on it for three months, whatever? Like, starts listing off all these symptoms. And then he was like, because I don't really feel that great. And I was like, Oh, you were asking for you. Like, I thought you were asking, like, as a professional trying to prescribe these. That's what I'm and he was like, he was like, No, like I've lost, I'm I'm losing like 12 pounds a month, and I I'm on this, like, not even that high of a dose, but high enough of um terzepatide. And he's like, I'm eating like just some soup, and like I'm barely eating, and like I just don't feel very good. And I was like, why even a physician, a cardiologist, a board certified cardiologist is taking this medication, feeling like shit, and still prescribing it to other people is like blowing my mind and pissing me off.
SPEAKER_05:Like it's interesting, but also I kind of get it though, because I feel like physicians kind of get this like they know they might feel like they know more, so they feel safer because they are in this space where like I went to school for medicine, so I know more, so I can do it more safely than the average person. I kind of feel like that might play a part.
SPEAKER_01:Definitely, and so I was like, I was a little bit sarcastic because I I work with this doctor too. And I was like, Dr. So-and-so, I'm like, you know what you just described to me as malnutrition, right? I'm like, Dr. So-and-so, I'm like, you're malnerished. Congratulations. Like, to me, these drugs should really be for people who are quite serious about change and have a really good care team who was well educated on them. I'm like giving for obesity and type 2 diabetes, like giving a fat diabetic these drugs and telling them to go on their way and then come back in three months is crazy. And I I am like, I'm about to like jump off the deep end and tell everyone like stop taking these damn drugs. They are for like they really should be for the bodybuilders. Like, that's how I feel. Like, unless you're super serious about like getting huge and like changing your life, like you really shouldn't even be on them. No one is safe from the Ozempic demon.
SPEAKER_03:Where where do those bodybuilder drugs come from? So I can make sure to not get them.
SPEAKER_00:They broke into the lab and synthesized them. I literally don't even know how people are getting them. It's insane to me.
SPEAKER_05:I know with the SARMs, which is a little bit different, but a lot of those were like not for human consumptions, they were research chemicals, big quotes. So that's how you could buy them.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't order them for your rats.
SPEAKER_05:For your animos. My anaconda needs his SARMs or whatever. So I buy those. But I might be something similar with that with the peptides, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe, but I mean, these are approved. Well, they're not approved yet, but like they're in human clinical trials for approval. So I'm just like, someone they've got like some inside link, and they're able to get this stuff, or they there's someone who is able to synthesize them on their own and they're selling them completely unregulated, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Or it's just not what they say it is.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. That's too.
SPEAKER_05:We had chips that made people leak out their buttholes, and we still sold like millions of pounds of that or whatever, right? If it helped people lose weight, who cares what the side effects or the cost is?
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. It's just like and the the what I've been seeing on Instagram in the last like six weeks, maybe because like I'm studying it, so I'm like saying it out loud and like I'm looking stuff up. So now my algorithm is like, hey, do you want to buy this like on the black market for$700? It's like, get out of my face. Like, just literally leave me alone.
SPEAKER_05:I could only sell that for twice that much. If I can only double my money, it's not worth it. Why are you trying to give this to me?
SPEAKER_01:So, like, all of my algorithm has been like these like transformations of people on these, like on these peptides. And I'm like, oh my god, like this is an epidemic. It's it is so out of hand.
SPEAKER_05:And I hate to say it, but I feel like it's gonna get worse. I feel like it's gonna get worse. I don't feel like it's getting better anytime soon. That we're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I told Mike at this point, yeah. At this point, we should all just invest in Eli Lilly and just like get our money, and then you guys can fund your DeLorean.
SPEAKER_05:So they're called the Berberine Patches. Uh, who's in? I feel like, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Can we get like inmoderation bourberine patches, made? Sell them on the website.
SPEAKER_05:Products we need to make, put bourberine patches on the list. Oh no.
SPEAKER_01:There is a sad poor food scientist out there who is waiting to make something dumb like that.
SPEAKER_03:You could find it on your put it on your sharps container in your kitchen.
SPEAKER_05:Yes. Well, I think um, unfortunately, I have to go be a dad. This is this thing that's this is a chronic condition. This is my chronic condition.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:If you treat it, there's no cure. There's no cure for this. It lasts a long time. Yeah, I'm being I'm literally being pulled right now. I know. I'm literally being pulled away from the microphone right now.
SPEAKER_02:I think I might need to stuff off the market for, but uh the the website I know of is actually currently blocked in Canada.
SPEAKER_01:Oh. Oh. Wow. Yeah. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02:I know. I can't get my whatevers.
SPEAKER_03:Can we get it here? Yeah. You want the website? Yeah, give it to me off air. I gotta make sure I block it. Also, I think that what we just saw happen to Liam is the closest we'll ever get to a giant cane coming out of a curtain and pulling someone away. Pulling him. We don't have classic physical bits like that. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, uh, just just in case anybody out there is like, are the professionals angry too? Are the professionals angry too? Fucking pissed. Yeah. Who um who do you think we should replace RFK Jr. with? God, I don't even know.
SPEAKER_01:I I I haven't even thought that far ahead. Like, every day is a new battle. I'm like, can I just make it till tomorrow?
SPEAKER_03:Can we just make it until so your local dietitian is thinking about the same thing you're all thinking about, which is can we survive another day? Furthermore, should we survive another day? The answer is sometimes the same for both.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I don't I don't know. Like, there's no one that really sticks out to me as like who who really cares about public health, who is like really the face of public health. I really feel like it should be someone who wants to make major investments to the agriculture. Um, because part of the flow, accessibility, and affordability of like fresh products comes from the bat comes from the fact that our farmers are are not being paid well, their reimbursement isn't good, and industry has bought them out. So there if if there was someone who who, oh god, I'm gonna say it, a big ag person who wants to come in and actually revamp some stuff, it might not be a half-bad idea. Maybe someone from PepsiCo even.
SPEAKER_03:This okay, let's let's talk about that real quick. Do people think that scientists and researchers and and medical professionals who make these advancements are supposed to work for free? Like, where where's the money supposed to come from to those people? And um, actually, you know what? Let me ask you this because I don't think I even know the answer. Why is it that these big corporations fund this research? Do you know? Because sometimes the research will contradict their own product.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. So it's usually not like if you think of like a government, right? There government doesn't mean one thing, there's a lot of different like subsets. And so major corporations in the food industry work the same way. So PepsiCo actually like funds a lot of nutrition research. They fund um a lot of agricultural research and institutions. And that's not because they're like wanting a specific outcome, it's because they they it it helps their reputation as a brand, quite honestly. It gives them more credibility if they say, hey, we care about these things. It's not that, like, hey, we want to show that the research supports what we do, it's the opposite. It's like we we want people to know that regardless of what the research says, we care about public health. We as an institution want to show you that uh we can do things that uh disagree with us and we still look good. So it's it's really about looking good and reputable. It's not about trying to like push a certain narrative about health.
SPEAKER_03:It's I just I uh every time I see people talking about Coca-Cola sponsored this or whatever this place sponsored this, I'm like, we don't have other funding. You know, it's like it's it's not substantially anyway. And it's just like I don't know, it needs to come from somewhere. We need to be making advancements. I think the people who are super critical about that are usually more anti-science anyway, in my opinion. Like it just seems that way. So like maybe they just don't want there to be research.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and like there's the industry usually gets a lot of like credit for like making massive investments, but like there's a lot of smaller organizations that are or foundations even that are like giving some funding for either like lab equipment, um, for researchers' time. And to be honest, a lot of food researchers are graduate students. So like it goes it goes into um, I don't want to say that the graduate students make very much money, but it goes into giving them a little bit of money, you know, like$7.50 an hour, maybe, or so that they can at least get a paid lunch here and there. Um, and I don't think people realize that when you're doing research at a university level, because like most research is coming from universities, like I said, graduate students, is that it costs an exceptional amount of money to maintain these, like like all the lab equipment, like just that alone, where it's like a foundation where you're getting, let's say, a$100,000 grant, like that is not enough to fund like the the extensiveness of research because you don't even know how long it's gonna go on for. You might be continuing continuously studying something. So when I was in college, I because I was in the College of Agriculture at the University of Florida, I did a lot of food panels. So you would get paid to come and be part of the research. And my friend was in school to be a food scientist, so I wasn't really supposed to be in the back of the lab. You're not hearing that from me, but I was in the back of the lab. And they're doing like alcohol research, they're doing pumpkin research, um, other agricultural products, and the equipment is heavy duty big stuff. Like you're looking at like a tank to do like beer research, a$20,000,$30,000 tank. So it's like if you have a$100,000 grant, it's like a foundation can't support that for five to ten years, but some something like PepsiCo definitely can. They can put million dollars into a foundation to fund research. And it and a lot of times people aren't realizing it, but like they're funding stuff that has nothing to do with the products that that they're making. It's like PepsiCo does drinks, and it's like, but they're not really doing alcohol, but they're definitely funding alcohol research. So that's that that's my rant on that.
SPEAKER_03:When are we getting alcoholic Pepsi?
SPEAKER_01:There's alcoholic Mountain Dew.
SPEAKER_03:There is, that's right. The the hard Mountain Dew.
SPEAKER_01:They're dangerous.
SPEAKER_03:Are they?
SPEAKER_01:But you didn't hear that from me, the dietitian.
SPEAKER_03:The word on the street is that you can easily drink eight or ten or twelve and what are the macros on a pack of Marlboro Reds?
SPEAKER_00:Fantastic, actually.
SPEAKER_03:But I don't know that 30 grams of protein for a cigarette.
SPEAKER_00:If they made those, I don't even know what the world would look like.
SPEAKER_03:No, you know what? Can we talk about the war on protein real quick? Because I do believe there is a war on protein, but not in the way that people think. Kellogg released a protein pop tart. Do you want to know what the macros are on that fucking thing?
SPEAKER_00:What? I haven't even seen that.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Go look it up. 400 calories, 10 grams of protein. So it's peanut butter has better macros. This is not a protein product. The war is against protein in terms of like sullying its name on the front of products that don't need it. You you'd be much better served having an actual Pop-Tart and a protein shake with it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, 100%. Have you tried those like legendary like Pop Tarts, the ones that have like the 20 grams of protein? To me, they're like fart juice in a box. So like I don't know how people are eating those. My stomach is bubbling. Like all these protein products, I'm like, you are going to get acid reflux like tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03:I will say though, at the LA Fit Expo, they had their legendary mac and cheese out, and they were given out these little cups, the sample cups, and it was really good. It could it could use a little bit more spice, but like that can be added. It's there's a solid base on which you can add many things. So it uh the legendary mac and cheese, look out for that. 290 calories, 47 grams of protein.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. That's really good. What's the sodium on that though? I'd be very interested to see.
SPEAKER_03:Zero if you approach it with a pure heart.
SPEAKER_00:You're not gonna have a heart by the time you're done. You don't have to worry about your heart when it's gone. No.
SPEAKER_02:Speaking of approaching with a pure heart, I uh went down the rabbit hole. I can get kegrisemi for 120 bucks. Uh what now? Kegrisema. Um God, what's it? Like some Canadian protein. Kagrillin Kagrillin tide combined with someeglitide.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, oh, you're looking up SARMS. Okay. Damn. Or I could get some latitude for 60 bucks. But if you use code in moderation at checkout, you get 15% off.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that really pisses me off. Like seeing the influencers with their discount codes, like, why do you even have one of those? You're not even you're not a prescriber, you're not anything. You're just you're just some person on the internet. Like, it's kind of crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Rob, here's your cold open clip. I was offered$50,000 to sell GLP ones on my page once and turned it down. Wow.$50,000. First month. Not this isn't like a one-time payment. It was uh$15,000 up front, and then it was an extra$10,000 estimate on commission per 100,000 followers that I had at the time. And so it if they had given that offer to me now, it would be quite a bit more. And that would have been per month. All I had to do was make a couple of videos saying, hey, use this code at checkout. And I was thinking to myself, how much fucking money are they making on this stuff? That it is worth it for them to give me this amount of money to sell it. And I I had told the I I sent them a uh MP3 of me making a long wet fart noise and told them to fuck off need my hands uh burning that bridge firmly. But yeah, it's if you see somebody, I don't want to name names here, but there was a quite a large creator who um just recently got into the grifting business a few months. Months ago, it was a uh a female creator who um I I I want to send you guys this is live on air. Mike texting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I knew I knew exactly who you were talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Just want to make sure that we all are on the same page. And it's yeah, it whenever I see a creator like that big in the millions of followers starting to sell this shit, I'm like, oh, you just got set for life there, or for the next few years at least, if you're wise. You know, it's it it's the amount of money you can make if you if you put your morals aside is insane.
SPEAKER_01:And I just I'm not really understanding the legality of it. It's clearly legal, but it shouldn't be. And it's I've never seen it with other prescription medications. And the thing is, is there are other FDA approved medications that are not GLP ones, but nobody's nobody has discount codes to sell those, but they can sell GLP one. And I don't know if maybe they're acting as a rep. Maybe that's the workaround. I don't know, but I've never seen anything like it before, and it's like really, really alarming.
SPEAKER_03:That ultimately is what it is. It's you are not selling the product so much as you are selling the consultation for the product. You're saying if you go to these people here and you get your consultation done, uh, you use code KIND to check out and you get 15% off of your uh subscription. So that's kind of how I think they go around it. Because it it I was not selling the product itself, but it there was one company that asked me, uh they they were willing to pay me to say that their product helped me lose weight, which I'm like, your product came out after I was done. So no one's gonna believe that. Right?
SPEAKER_02:It's it's because if they compound it themselves in the pharmacy, they don't have to be FDA approved. Correct. Terrifying.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and and it's like highly, highly recommended that you do not go to a compounding pharmacy because like that that's what they're studying is the combination of different GLP ones and GIP, and there's like some other stuff too, glucagon, and how they can like combine these in different doses over time to affect weight, metabolism, and a bunch of other factors. So it's like to have a pharmacist like go and try to do that now, like is kind of scary. Or just mess messing with the dose. Like we know what the clinically effective doses are for all of these things. So for them to like titrate it up or down is like also terrifying.
SPEAKER_03:If GLP1s are so good, why have they not come out with GLP2 yet?
SPEAKER_00:That is a fair question.
SPEAKER_03:I'm waiting.
SPEAKER_02:BlackRock, bring it up. If it makes you feel better, it's uh it's actually illegal to compound GLP1s here in Alberta.
SPEAKER_00:I did not know that. Interesting.
SPEAKER_03:It's also illegal to sell crack, it still happens. It's only gonna stop the bad guys from synthesizing GLP ones, or the good guys, rather. It's not gonna stop the bad ones.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but um the the like even just promotion of a GLP one or being like, well, this is what I did, it's it's very like, oh, I'm just like ditzeled me, and like, no, that all of this is fine. It's like you know what you're doing, you know how much money you're making, and you know that if you promote what you've done, people are gonna want to replicate that because they're incredibly vulnerable. So it's it's highly irresponsible and it's not good care in general. Like you're they're not healthcare providers, so like they're not gonna get it. But to say, well, this works for me, it could work for you too, like that's not how health works, period. So, like, I wish that there was legislation that would finally put a stop to like being able to rep for any GLP one. Because, like, there's if they're saying that obesity is now a chronic disease that we manage over time, then I want to see the hypertension medications being repped for. I want to see the statin therapy being repped for. And why isn't that being repped for? Why, why does nobody do that online?
SPEAKER_03:Because it's like it doesn't matter. It's sexy to sell it. Hey, come bring your blood pressure down is not quite as enticing as an offer as hey, you can lose 100 pounds in 32 minutes. You know, if people really were getting horny about like lowering their cholesterol, it would be easier to sell those medications under the same sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01:Well, cholesterol is not real, Mike.
SPEAKER_03:Well, it's either not real butter lady or whatever. It it's either not real or it's an essential nutrient, depending on who you ask.
SPEAKER_01:The butter girl who's got like cholesterol like 500 or something, is like the healthiest I've ever been. And I eat nothing but butter steak and like with egg whites.
SPEAKER_03:Is that the really one who like eats steaks of butter?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. She's like, I I'm going on a flight today, and it's just like butter and steak on the airplane.
SPEAKER_03:It's like you'd better have some compression socks or something, because uh it's being exposed to that kind of altitude when your blood is is lipids. Like we've got to do something about that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so so it depends on who you ask in the world, some some people say that cholesterol is real, some people don't believe in it at all. Some people say you can have whatever cholesterol you want. So, yeah, I guess statin therapy, like, you know, it doesn't really matter. But no one's gonna say that like monitoring your weight doesn't matter. Everybody like agrees that like that's pretty important. And there's a lot, there's a lot of other things that go into it. Like, it's not just like the sexiness of it, of like, oh yeah, I could like change my life tomorrow, like you said in 32 minutes. But there's also like a change in like status, perception, where all of these other changes are on the inside, the weight is on the outside.
SPEAKER_03:There are some people now that again will remain nameless, but as soon as I say this, you'll know who I'm talking about. You probably already know. There are people that will say that lifestyle changes don't matter at all. That all you have to do is take the GLP1, and that's it. You can continue eating just smaller amounts of the same garbage that you were eating before, and the health outcomes will not change.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and that's that's very interesting because part of that is true, but it falls apart like six months in. So when you're actively losing weight, the other risks associated with morbid obesity like outweigh anything that you could eat or drink for the most part. Because we know it increases your risk for cancer, for all of your other chronic um issues. So it's like increases your risk for comorbidity. So the diseases that exist with the one we're trying to address. That's what a comorbidity is. So they would say, well, if you can only have like one Big Mac a day, then like you're gonna be calorie restricted. Everything else is gonna be restricted the sodium, the fat, the protein, everything. And as you lose weight, all of these other comorbidities are going to improve. But what they're not telling you is what happens to everything else, where it's like now you have an electrolyte imbalance. Now you have muscle loss, now you have no energy, you're not sleeping. This affects how your heart works, this affects how your muscles work, um, it affects the energy for the organs that need to work, like your kidneys, you can have severe dehydration, like this cardiologist that I saw who was like, you have malnutrition. Yes, your comorbidities have improved, but you've created now a new condition that needs to be addressed. And if you're not exercising, they can say all they want all day long that when you lose weight, you're gonna lose muscle mass. But we can stunt that with resistance exercise with progressive overload. So that whole like, oh, you're gonna lose like 20% of your muscle mass, anyways, like, what does it matter? Okay, you can still lose bone density by not exercising and having one big Mac a day. And so at the six-month mark, I'd really like to see if you had a full health assessment with everything, including your like physical capacity for exercise. I'd like to know how healthy those people really are.
SPEAKER_03:My health doesn't as much as their ability to pay for it. Yeah. No, you're always dropping the mic. That's why I wanted you to get on here and and rant to everybody. Uh, because it I I know that there's probably a lot of just I'm pretty sure Liam has been taken out. Oh, he's back. He's returned. Hi. Oh my goodness. Anyone for those listeners? There's always one visual hanging out with Oakley on on screen. Yeah, he was back for he's been gone, and we've just been watching an empty screen for like 20 minutes. And uh very briefly, Liam and Oakley just popped back in. But um, Brittany, where can everybody find you?
SPEAKER_01:Um on Instagram, metabolic underscore dietitian. I'm not posting as much right now. My life's been kind of crazy, so I archived all my stuff. I know, I know. I've archived everything, but I'm always open. My DMs are always open. So I I do still answer like a lot of questions from people, um, give like some general advice. Um, not taking new clients at the moment, but that will be changing probably like second half of the year.
SPEAKER_03:I did have you teach a class in my group. So if anybody wants to watch a full lesson from her, uh, let me know. I'll send it to you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was really fun. I still talk about that.
SPEAKER_03:It's you were the the first person that I wanted to have as a as a guest speaker in the group, so I'm I'm super glad that we were able to make that happen. And um, I know everybody loved you there, and I hope that everybody listening here follows Britney. She's not only super smart and her heart is in the right place, but she's goddamn too funny. And um, it's it's not fair that you get to all the cool reels before I do. Like, leave some for the rest of us, motherfucker.
SPEAKER_06:Always 50 ahead.
SPEAKER_03:She's also wearing a Gator NASA suit. Also wearing the NASA Gator track suit. But yes, um, thank you for joining us on such short notice.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, thank you for having me. I was so excited. I'm like, oh, I've been waiting to say these things. I've been waiting for the opportunity.
SPEAKER_03:And everybody listening in, if you would like Brittany to go even deeper into some even angrier stuff, uh cast your votes now, and we'll bring her back for a whole session of just yelling. Scream on the mic. Liam yelling. All I'm seeing is Oakley pull this chair around. Liam's not here anymore. Oakley's now the co-host of the chair. Finally been passed along to the next generation in moderation, a hundred years. So the volume is not on. This is something that you're gonna have to do.
SPEAKER_02:Now we're just sitting here watching Oakley and Liam.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, there's some kind of negotiation happening. Oh, they're gone.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay, episode over.
