In Moderation

Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Please Come On The Podcast

Rob Lapham, Liam Layton Season 1 Episode 133

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A ring light complaint turns into a surprisingly honest question: are people listening to podcasts for the ideas, or watching for the performance? We kick things off by messing with each other about audio vs YouTube, then swap real podcast recommendations, from Conan-style comedy interviews to darker history shows that dig into what you never learned in school. It’s light, it’s unserious, and it’s exactly how a hangout conversation should feel right before it isn’t. 

The mood shifts hard when we get into school shootings and the brutal gap between the United States and the rest of the world. We talk numbers, the weird way headlines compete for attention, and what it does to a culture when tragedy becomes routine. From there, we do what our brains always do when reality feels stuck: we try to “solve” it with time travel. Cue Superman physics, Doctor Who logic, and a full commitment to the DeLorean time machine bit, including the classic rule about not meeting your younger self and the only practical time-travel advice anyone ever gives: invest early. 

Then we spiral into public health anxiety with cruise ship hantavirus chatter, quarantine questions, and the uneasy feeling of living in a world where outbreak response is political. To cleanse the palate, we debate internet pedantry, misinformation vs harmless mistakes, and the “technically berries” rabbit hole that somehow becomes a plan to book a botanist and bait Neil deGrasse Tyson into talking fruit classification before we hit him with DeLoreans. If you like comedy podcasts that stumble into real issues, science literacy, and cultural commentary, this one gets weird in the best way. 

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SPEAKER_00

Dark. It's kind of like in moderation after dark, because we're we're getting all these comments about how Liam needs a ring light because he's so dark. So listen, listen, If Liam's dark and then the rest of us go dark, relatively we're all the same lights.

SPEAKER_01

What I'm saying is stop. Why are we trying to bring everyone up to a better level when we should bring everyone down to the lower level and then we can all just wallow in our own filth together? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

Who's watching podcasts? This is what you put on when you're making dinner.

SPEAKER_01

Some people are really bad right now. They're like, I only watch podcasts. I will never listen only to a podcast. I'm sure there's some people saying that right now.

SPEAKER_00

To be fair, Mike, you yourself have done several things on episodes where you're like, if you want to see this, you should go to YouTube.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I'm trying to like promote the platform that people would go to to watch it if they so choose. I but like I don't know. It's it I'm I'm listening to the podcasts like on the road while I'm driving when I want to keep the voices from coming in.

SPEAKER_01

What podcast do you listen to, Mike? Besides I listen to this one on repeat.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I'm usually listening to the episodes of in moderation that I mostly the DeLorean heavy ones.

SPEAKER_01

That's the ones that's the one Mike likes the most.

SPEAKER_02

I use the AI search to find like the summary of where did Liam mention the DeLorean so I can play that part back. What podcast am I listening to? Yeah, we never know what other podcasts Mike listens to. I've I've gotten hundreds, if not thousands, of messages from people asking me what podcasts are you listening to, Laman.

SPEAKER_01

Well, lay it out on the table for us or wherever you want to lay it. I don't really care.

SPEAKER_02

I'm a big fan of um I I like comedy podcasts. I like Conan. Conan's got a great podcast. I just love listening to Conan. He's uh just a fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

I'm assuming he brings people he brings guests on, right? And like just talks to him like other comedians or whatever. He does, just like we used to.

SPEAKER_02

Back in the day when we were productive. Well, what what podcasts are you guys listening to other than moderation?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I my favorites are definitely Behind the Bastards. I'm a history buff. I love all like the history shit. Uh so like his uh the behind the bastards is the worst people of all of history and all of history and the things you don't know about them. And that's what I love it. It's like you're they're talking about like Stalin or obviously like Hitler and stuff and the things you never learned in school. And it's quite fascinating. I love that like these some people like Saddam Hussein and a bunch of other of these dictators love old westerns. They just love old for whatever reason they're they they have like when they raid their compounds, they have a bunch of old western DVDs. And I'm like, that's just interesting to me. They they that that they are they the guy in like the old western that like pulls up and they're like, there's old there's only enough room for one of us, or whatever they say. I don't know what they say. I don't really watch old westerns, but you know what I'm saying? Like, is that why dictators like old westerns?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, certainly. Yeah, interesting theory.

SPEAKER_01

That's that was what I was kind of thinking because so many of them were like watching it would just have like sin, like Murica and your guns. Maybe they like the gun, they just like the guns they're gun buff.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, geez. Like the other day I was just like de-stressing and just kind of randomly browsing the internet, and I ended up on um I didn't realize it when I landed on him, but the guy who did uh one of your mass school shootings, the second biggest one.

SPEAKER_01

That yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um the way you're bringing this up sounds like a sports person.

SPEAKER_00

Like that's what I was really thought that like there was like a politician or like so I I I from there I started venturing into looking at all your school shootings and stuff, and I knew it was bad, but then I looked at the actual statistics for the entire world school shootings by country, and I was like, holy shit America. We make up what percentage of it? I know a lot, like all of it. You're you guys are at 288 school shootings. The next highest was, I believe, Mexico at eight.

SPEAKER_01

But if you put every other country together, I don't think they'll still add up to America. I yeah, I don't think oh when I I I went to Albany High here. That's where I grew up in Albany, and it was literally every day you'd come in and there would be metal detectors, and they check your bags and you go through and they they check you down, and they had eventually right before I left, they started getting cops and they put them in the halls. We had hall monitors in every hall forever. Uh, but then you'd have cops and they some of them had dogs, and like it that's you know, it was a lot. There was there. I remember someone brought a gun in one time, they found a gun on someone. Luckily, there wasn't actually a shooting, which was which was good. Um, but it just progressively got worse and worse. And that's when I met my high school sweetheart and we moved to Florida and I finished my senior year down there. It was much better. I much preferred that to Albany High. That show that was that was rough.

SPEAKER_00

I have a friend in uh Northwest Florida that was a teacher, and yeah, he told me all the stories about how they had to go through all this preparation and stuff in case of shootings. Yeah, and I was just like, wow, that does not exist in Canada.

SPEAKER_01

No, and most really, I mean, you you can you could replace Canada with pretty much any other country. Pretty much every country, yeah. Pretty much any country that is in America. Um yeah, I this is it's it's really sad because it's almost like you're just like, oh, another school shooting. Like the fact that you can even think that is is is wild.

SPEAKER_02

Like the the names of the schools that it would happen at, because it would be headline news for weeks, and now we don't hear about it anymore. There's a school shooting.

SPEAKER_00

The day that Charlie Kirk died, and you heard more about Charlie Kirk than the school shooting.

SPEAKER_01

I do I do remember people talking, but I don't even know. Yeah, I couldn't even tell you what school that was. I don't even know. Yeah, it's in it's incredibly incredibly sad. What we need to do is go back in time to fix things. Does anyone know of any like methods that we might use to go back and like didn't Superman use one one time? Who's that? Superman, he did so. What he did was he went he pushed the earth backwards, which as we all know, we learned in physics class. When you turn the earth the other way, then time goes the other way with it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But like, wouldn't it be useful if we didn't have to make the whole world go back? That perhaps we could maybe just take like one or two people and send them back.

SPEAKER_00

Um, Doctor Who has this like telephone box thing. The telephone box.

SPEAKER_02

No, too big. It's it's much bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.

SPEAKER_01

But I've uh I I've also wanted to see the sun set in the what is it, the east? Sure, now it'll be the east. So yeah, I want to say the sun set in the east. So yeah, let's just swap it around. Just move, let's just move the earth the other way. Let's see what it looks like. The stars, everything might be a little different. Navigation, I'm assuming everyone navigates by stars still. I don't know. But like that might be a little tricky.

SPEAKER_02

If the earth starts moving in a different direction, GPS is not our biggest problem.

SPEAKER_01

I don't would uh we need uh unfortunately, we didn't bring Neil deGrasse Tyson in on this episode. We were so close. But if he was here, he could definitely tell us the issues if we just started spinning the other way. Like, obviously, we would if we if it's if the earth stopped like immediately, everyone would go f everything would go flying and it'd be horrible. But let's say it slowed down and then it went to the room.

SPEAKER_00

Neil deGrasse Tyson as many times as you can so that he gets flagged in this episode and he'll see it and then he'll come on and tell us. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Neil deGrasse Tyson.

SPEAKER_02

This is part of the thing.

SPEAKER_00

I think Neil deGrasse Tyson would want a DeLorean.

SPEAKER_02

DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01

Would Neil deGrasse Tyson want a DeLorean?

SPEAKER_02

I mean he's been trying to get on this podcast for a while now.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I know. Obviously, it's just pestering us. But like I feel like he's getting older too, and I feel like the DeLorean is just not like a comfort vehicle at all. You know what I'm saying? So I just for that factor, probably not.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's very small. It's kind of difficult to navigate in. Getting in and out doesn't even seem like No, it's I've sat in one before. It's it's not it's not a comfortable squeeze.

SPEAKER_01

I'm if I buy one, I'm I'm gonna buy it without ever fucking sitting in it, driving it. It's just gonna be like just ship it, send it to me.

SPEAKER_02

They're literally collecting dust.

SPEAKER_00

What happens if you take the DeLorean back in time and give it to your your younger self to then take it?

SPEAKER_01

No, you can't interact with your younger self. You know that messes up the time space continuum. Everyone knows this.

SPEAKER_00

Interact with somebody else to give it to you.

SPEAKER_01

So you'd have to what you'd have to do, obviously, is drop it off somewhere where your younger self wouldn't see you because that would be a major problem. And leave a little room. And then they can get in and then they hopefully figure out how to use it to go back in time. Is that the what's the plan?

SPEAKER_00

No, they they go forward in time, so therefore you have a younger self that is Okay.

SPEAKER_01

In the future, you're yeah, you just swap.

SPEAKER_00

Then that younger self can just look up all the information that your older self did and carry on from that point. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

We didn't really accomplish anything here, Rob. That's my main problem with this, is we just got a swaparooney.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but we got younger.

SPEAKER_01

No, well, no, you you went back and stayed the same age, and your younger self came forward, and we did we did we accomplished nothing. We might as well invest in Bitcoin or something here. Like, give me something. Give me a blue. Great. All right. Well, that's yeah, no, that's the best thing you could do with a time machine. I think no one's ever thought of anything better to do with a time machine, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02

I think we could go back in time and maybe prevent this uh the sequel to COVID that's coming. You know, they just took people off with the sequel to COVID.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the ship. Okay, so you're talking about the henta virus, was it?

SPEAKER_02

I believe that's the the Japanese anime porn.

SPEAKER_01

I I I didn't hear much about it. Somebody look tell me what's what I I don't know what's going on with the ship. I've only seen it.

SPEAKER_02

So there's a cruise ship floating out somewhere right now. Uh, and they they've got a couple of cases of the hantavirus, which is it's very contagious and it's got a very high fatality rate.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, out here in the rural areas, anytime you like have to move things that mice could be living in, you want to wear gloves.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's the thing is with like the viruses that have like a high fatality rate generally don't spread that much because they just take out whoever they infect, whereas like COVID spread because it was had a low fatality rate and it could be could be spread fairly easily. So I bet I'm just I don't know what uh was it pathologist, epidemiologist, uh diseasologist, whoever studies this sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00

Radologist.

SPEAKER_02

Do we have any radologists listening to the to the podcast right now?

SPEAKER_00

So speaking of radologists, I told you guys. I told you guys last last podcast when you started talking about PETA that PETA would come after us, and they did. Do we want to talk about that? Does that take us in deeper?

SPEAKER_01

I yeah, we're just gonna oh, we're just gonna make this worse.

SPEAKER_02

So I I did make like last time I whatever I had said, I was like, fact-check me. I'm not sure if this is true. You know, uh avoiding making any sort of claims. Uh Pita, I'm I'm sure you're very nice people. Somebody fact-check me on that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, yeah, I say we don't we don't play with live grenades. How about that?

SPEAKER_00

Wes Birdette, if you if you want, you can uh go ahead and get in touch with Mike here.

unknown

No!

SPEAKER_02

I don't I don't have an email address. I just shot I live off grid. Going on a cruise ship until this COVID sequel is gone. Yeah, COVID sequel. Oh God, I'm sweating now.

SPEAKER_00

So is this is this hantavirus actively spreading between humans right now?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Uh there were on this cruise ship several yes. Uh there were there were have already been fatalities. And the thing is right now, they're deep.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that actually does sound bad.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, they're taking people off of the ship and they're bringing them back home. And I'm like, why you've got the perfect quarantine situation right now. Leave them there. Leave them on the ship. I'm watching this footage and I'm thinking to myself, like, this is gonna be if there is people or are people around to make a documentary about this. This is gonna be that point where we're like, why did we take them off of the ship?

SPEAKER_01

I would feel a lot better if we didn't have people like RFK in charge. I'm not gonna lie to you right now.

SPEAKER_02

I feel yeah, because we pulled out of the World Health Organization, we gutted the CDC. Are we great again yet?

SPEAKER_01

I remember we I mean we defunded like our our like disease preparedness. Like we were like, no, we don't really need that after COVID. That doesn't seem that important. I was like, oh fuck, this is gonna bite us.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's exactly what I want to read is that there's an asymptomatic carrier.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, somebody was on a plane in like Switzerland or something. And so now they've got to figure out like all the people that were on that plane and they have to track them. And I'm just like, nah.

SPEAKER_01

That's the thing about old timing diseases, is it was like people never went anywhere, you know, maybe occasionally by sh by a fucking sailboat or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

But now it's just like oh, it would take so long that they would die on the ship on the way there.

SPEAKER_01

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

But then no, we actually did introduce a shit ton of diseases to North America when Europeans came over.

SPEAKER_01

For for sure. That was that was real, yes. But like in general, like now, but you get on a plane, oh yeah, you can just spread it to people in Japan in, you know, a day. I preferred when we talked about DeLoreans and not the future eradication of the human race by various epic, you know, well, if we had a DeLorean, we could go back to the start of this episode and just do it all over again.

SPEAKER_02

You know what DeLoreans remind me of? The DeLorean.

SPEAKER_00

Of uh John D.

SPEAKER_02

Rockefeller. That's the inmoderation vehicle that we're gonna sell on the inmoderation website. DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01

Is it like in the shape of a DeLorean or is it something completely different?

SPEAKER_02

It's it's a garbage vehicle.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's it's as close as we can get without getting copyright struck.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we it's it is it's a parody covered under parody law. Okay, wait a minute. We're we're back. We're so back. It's the weird Al version of the DeLorean. We got this, it'll be fine.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think we got anything. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think we got shit. We've we never have a firm grasp on anything.

SPEAKER_02

No, but I'm sure the DeLorean Motor Company will send us a uh nicely worded email.

SPEAKER_01

If there was ever a fucking company to sponsor us, like we it would it would be the DeLorean Motor Company. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_02

What other podcast out there is doing this much legwork for DeLorean in 2026? If it it would be the smartest move on their part to reach out to us. We've got a collective week.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody listening needs to just start sending our podcast to DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't believe we'd ever thought about this. We just need them to get us to sponsor us. It doesn't the money doesn't matter. They give us like 10 bucks. Like, who gives a shit? But the fact that we could start each episode brought to you by the DeLorean Motor Company, that would be fucking amazing. In my DeLorean. Brought to you by DeLorean? Holy shit, this will be the greatest thing ever. We need them to sponsor us for any it doesn't the money for whatever amount of money, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02

Just let us drive one for a day. Like fly us out to wherever the DeLorean is, and just like the head of the yeah, the I think the head is actually on that cruise ship, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01

I'm pretty sure that's where the headquarters is.

SPEAKER_02

It's really unfortunate. They thought it was gonna be smart to give themselves a mobile HQ and we're gonna keep moving mobile.

SPEAKER_01

Let's go. Oh shit. Ah. The hantavirus. Oh, we should really go back in time and rethink this. How do we do that?

SPEAKER_03

Jim.

SPEAKER_02

It really like I don't at what point do we just change this whole thing to be a spinoff?

SPEAKER_01

Once we get sponsored by DeLorean, the DeLorean Motor Company, then we go all in.

SPEAKER_02

That's the plan. I think it's a good one. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

We'll stick to it. All right, we've had a lot of plans that we haven't stuck to at all. I'm not gonna lie to you guys, but like this one for sure, for sure's this one's gonna have to stick to that. This one this is.

SPEAKER_02

Do you remember any of our other plans? Anything else that we had?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, there was the meal bucket. I don't remember. I don't know, the food bucket.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, the nutrition bucket, I think.

SPEAKER_01

I don't even remember the name of it. I don't know. We were gonna sell alpha water for a while. Uh, that was a thing. You know, we've had a few, we've had some ideas to Tesseractal water. Tesser. I I thought it was alpha water because we ain't no beta bitch.

SPEAKER_00

There was also tech tesseractyl water. Oh, there's like another thing um chemthug.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that sounds right. I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

What is the extra dimension of water? Like what what what what is what is being added to it? Because the tesseract is it's like a 4D object, right? That's the whole point of it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we'll have to bring Chemthug back on the back.

SPEAKER_01

You're asking the wrong person here. Yeah, we're gonna need Chemthug back on this because I have no idea. I thought that was a dinosaur. Tesseract, the testeractyl everywhere. God damn it. They just snatched a baby. The tesseractyl. Someone's gonna get mad and be like pterodactyls aren't even real dinosaurs, and you're making a stupid joke off it.

SPEAKER_02

That that's always the thing, because anytime I'm asked what my favorite dinosaur is, I'll say the pterodactyl. Because I first off, they can fly. Actually, that's not a dinosaur. The room actually is every fucking time. Like, first off, where's your whimsy? Secondly, when you see a picture of the dinosaurs, what do you always see flying in the background? You're not always gonna see the Dilophosaurus, you're not always gonna see the Dimitrodon or whatever, but you will always in the background see a fucking pterodactyl flying through. Because that it illustrates that there are dinosaurs present.

SPEAKER_01

But, you know, people get real mad. They go and get real mad. It's like when I say, you know, fucking peanuts are a nut. Fucking fuck me. They people don't like that.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna have like the Royal T Rail Museum of Paleontology now emailing us being like pterodactyls are actually this, this isn't this. Come here. You've been giving some misinformation.

SPEAKER_01

Um actually, and then we just go, fine, we'll just stick to our DeLoreans. Shut up, everyone. Everything else has been bad for us. We've nothing's gone well.

SPEAKER_02

We know that a tomato is a fruit, but it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. Okay, like it's just because it's not like technically what does it matter? What does it matter? Anyone listening right now, does it affect you if I say that a pterodactyl is a dinosaur? Is it a problem?

SPEAKER_01

The thing that I don't like, like here's the thing like angry comments and shit, I don't they don't bother me at all. People get mad at me for all sorts of stuff and whatever. The only the ones that do bother me is just like I replied to like hundreds of comments, and once I'll make make a mistake once in a while. Like, I'll say I bought like to buy, but I'll say B Y instead instead of B U Y, like on accident. And I'll just get a bunch of people like, um, I see that you made a mistake there. It's actually I'm like, oh my fucking god. The you know what language is for? So that I tell you something and then you understand it. Do you understand what I'm saying? Okay, perfect. Why are you?

SPEAKER_00

You clearly do understand what you're saying because you're trying to correct it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Um, actually, you made I see you made a small mistake. And I had one person say, I hate to be that guy, and I'm like, Don't. Then just don't. Don't finish that sentence. You could have just said I hate to be that guy, and then just ended it. And I know I knew what you were talking about, and at least you admit that you're a terrible person.

SPEAKER_02

You can choose not to be the guy.

SPEAKER_01

Just don't be that guy. I'll be the guy, so I won't. So don't. That's I'm gonna make a video and be like, I hate to be that guy, so I'm not gonna be, and then fucking end a video. That's it.

SPEAKER_02

Are we contributing to uh no ultimately no? Cool.

SPEAKER_01

No, whatever you're about to say, we're not contributing to shit.

SPEAKER_02

Because, like, is this a gateway drug to other things being excused? How how granular do we need to get with our corrections? Because like there was something I had mentioned a long time ago. Uh Liam, I'm sure you don't remember this, but I had said on this podcast, I I had a hot take that I don't feel like flat earthers are hurting anybody. I don't agree with them, they're fucking stupid, but like the worst thing they're doing is making themselves look dumb. And then you had raised the point that it it increases the likelihood that scientific illiteracy will continue to uh uh uh persevere, which made sense. You know, it's like, well, if we allow them to believe that, then you know what else is it we're gonna deal with. Anti-consulture. I would say yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So like I think when when you see when you spread something that is like a Objectively was objectively wrong. But I'm saying like for us, when you get down to like when you see something that is clearly someone made a mistake, you know, and you don't you don't you clearly see what they meant, and then this is what they said, and you don't have to go in and say, um, actually, or like the fruits or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

The defining line would be language versus science.

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SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Right. If you're if it's saying something that's like scientifically like this is wrong, like, oh, the fucking sun or the earth, the sun revolves around the earth, and be like, all right, that's fucking you're stupid, and that's wrong, and we should probably not like all start believing that that's not great. But when it comes to like fucking botanical definitions of a fruit or whatever, okay, sure.

SPEAKER_02

I gotta pull up a picture here.

SPEAKER_01

Of of what? Scrotox like you did last time, or what? Do you have that saved? Did you have that tab just left open from last time?

SPEAKER_02

I do have a bunch of pictures of ball sacks saved, but scrotox specifically. They're mostly mine. They're mostly it's it's all just me. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Except one. Can you tell which one's different?

SPEAKER_02

Throw them up on the screen. We're about to play uh good old fashioned inmoderation classic. Who's in my mouth? Name that sack. How about name that sack? Okay, how do I share my screen? So you're gonna have to go over to uh YouTube for this one, I suppose. Here we go. Pinning the uh the YouTube again. Uh, can I share my screen? Yes, I can. Are we playing? So this right now, name that sack? We're gonna play name that sack. We're first we're gonna look at this picture right here, which is the Captain Crunch's technically all berries. Which is a play on this before. Have we?

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I know we've turned this up because we've yes it's no, it pisses me off enough that I'm like, yeah, every time, let's let let's educate people as much as possible.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so this is a play on oops all berries, which is you know, it's they they've made light of a manufacturing error. Uh but here in this picture, this satirical image, we've got in the bowl, we've got a tomato, a banana. What's this orange thing here? We've got percent. That's that's the I was looking for a P word that wasn't penis. Uh, that is a ghost pepper or something, an avocado. Yeah, you said eggplant. We've got a watermelon. These are all technically berries. Would this belong in Captain Crunch's oops, all berries? No, of course not. We would not consider any of these.

SPEAKER_01

It would be gross. Imagine you just dump this out and it's up to the city.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it literally says on the box poisonous and taste terrible.

SPEAKER_01

Poisonous?

SPEAKER_00

What's poisonous in here?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good question. Are one is one of those poisonous?

SPEAKER_02

One of these things is deadly.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe this one here. This looks like one of those berries that like you see on a on a nature walk.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and that you're like tempted by. You're like, well, how bad could it be? You know?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's so little.

SPEAKER_02

It is cannery.

SPEAKER_00

Let's bring on an expert in berries and technically berries and stuff, and we'll ask, we'll just have them play a guessing game.

SPEAKER_01

Can we get oh, can we get a botanist on? Can we get a botanist as a as a as a guest? That would be perfect.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we can. All right.

SPEAKER_01

Do we know him?

SPEAKER_00

I do know a couple.

SPEAKER_02

Is Neil deGrasse Tyson a botanist?

SPEAKER_00

Neil deGrasse Tyson is anything we want him to be.

SPEAKER_02

Get him on to we we get through to his people, we figure it out, we schedule like two months in advance, and then we bring him on to talk about berries.

SPEAKER_01

The whole episode is just us asking him about berries, and at the end we go, So have you heard about the DeLorean? It's like, yes, they got him.

SPEAKER_02

In this bowl, what would be the thing that would kill you the soonest if you had a certain amount of it? Like, what's the hypothetical limit of poison for an eggplant? So, can we talk about space? No, no, we can't.

SPEAKER_01

Uh you do that enough in your own time. Yeah, when you come over here, Neil, we're we're asking the real questions.

SPEAKER_02

Let's give you a break. So, how do you how do you feel about Bruce Simmons? We've got you for another 57 minutes. Uh please, Neil, sit down. And that's why it's so hard to get on our show. Everybody wants to be on it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, let's go with that. Let's go with that one.

SPEAKER_02

We just we just need to nail down a recording time. That's it. If if we can if we can do that, I we can we can get Neil Degrasse Tyson.

SPEAKER_01

That's that's our only barrier according to Degrasse Tyson. And pretty much whoever we want, fucking Gordon Ramsay, get that bitch on here. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00

What would you ask Gordon Ramsay?

SPEAKER_01

About the DeLorean, obviously. What else would I fucking ask that guy? What is his opinion on the DeLorean?

SPEAKER_02

If you wanted to time travel in style, which vehicle would you convert into a DeLorean or into a time machine?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly. That's the obvious question. I can't believe we even have to ask what the question would be.

SPEAKER_00

You're right. I'm I feel so embarrassed.

SPEAKER_02

You should. He would say, you know, I'm kind of stumped. Could I call a friend?

SPEAKER_01

And I would say Neil deGrasse Tyson. And then you'd call Neil deGrasse Tyson and he'd say, Neil, and he'd say, get out of there. And then you'd say, Neil, what are your thoughts on persimmons? And then it would go, well, technically they're berries. Like, oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, a watermelon is a berry. Yes, yes. Botanically speaking, the number one DeLorean and Berry podcast.

SPEAKER_01

I don't want the berry thing to be us. I don't want it. I want it just DeLorean. I think that better.

SPEAKER_02

Just DeLoreans.

SPEAKER_01

Just DeLoreans.

SPEAKER_02

I want to do that.

SPEAKER_01

I don't want to talk about berries all the time. I want to talk about the DeLorean all the time.

SPEAKER_00

We just want to talk about berries with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

SPEAKER_02

Just for an episode, just as like a little detour. And of course, we'll get back to it.

SPEAKER_01

We'll talk and then I would why is it like mass murderers always have three names? Neil deGrasse Tyson. I've got a question for you.

SPEAKER_02

What are you implying?

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't imply anything. I would just ask him that way and let him figure it out. John Wilkes Booth. Lee Harvey Oswald. Well, I guess they're not mass murders, but they're assassins. Why is assassins always have three names? Neil deGrasse Tyson.

SPEAKER_02

Gordon James Ramsay.

SPEAKER_01

Do you have to look up his fucking middle name if you were just gonna make that shit up? Like Gordon DeLorean Ramsey.

SPEAKER_02

Gordon DeLorean kind of has a ring to it. Gordon DeLorean. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02

Just ask him why don't you why didn't you go with that as your name?

SPEAKER_00

I wanted to name a petition to get him to change his name.

SPEAKER_01

We should do that. I'm sure we'll get really far with that. I wanted Oakley's middle name to be Danger. I've mentioned that, but I couldn't make it happen.

SPEAKER_02

That'd be so cool.

SPEAKER_01

That would be so cool. Like you're at the you're at the playground, they're like, don't do that, it's dangerous. And they're like, don't worry, danger is my middle name. Like that would be the fucking dopest shit ever if a like a five-year-old did that to you.

SPEAKER_00

Got the like Indiana Jones hat, and you just tip it as you're saying it.

SPEAKER_01

That would be I if that if a five-year-old did that to me, I'd be like, that is the coolest five-year-old I've ever seen in my entire life.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, you you'd be getting a call from the school saying, uh, hello, Mr. Leighton, we uh we have your daughter. She jumped off of the swing scene.

SPEAKER_01

And I would be like, no shit. Did you look at her middle name? Or what? Why are you even calling me? Danger's literally her middle name. Like that would be so cool. And like that, I always have to I say you gotta do it for the joke. Like that's we buy the DeLorean for that, you name the middle kid, your kid's middle name, you know, danger. It's always for the for the bit. I just always gotta commit to to the to the bit, and most important.

SPEAKER_02

What what is the process? It must not be impossible to reach Neil deGrasse Tyson.

SPEAKER_01

Obviously, it's not impossible. He does things and he goes places, but impossible for whom?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so I'm on Neildecrass Tyson.com slash contact. Okay. Uh requests.

SPEAKER_01

Does it have his stance on berries up there, or is that like what where do we go for that?

SPEAKER_02

It depends. Do we count as media, Rob? Uh it's just request an interview and it says media only, please.

SPEAKER_01

What else? Wait, hold on, wait, back up. What is the other things?

SPEAKER_02

What are the other things that are So we've got request to speaking engagement, schools, organizations, and corporations only. Okay. Uh request an interview, media only, please, general comments drop box. Um, general comments about life, the universe, and everything. All posts will be read, but due to high volume, there will be no replies. So that I guess that's just if you want a vent.

SPEAKER_01

So we can be we can claim that we are we are a podcast that has been read by the Neil deGrosse Tyson.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, podcasts are considered a form of digital new media.

SPEAKER_02

We just have to make sure he never hears this episode. I think, yeah, we we can. I mean, it doesn't say there's like a amount of money we have to pay him.

SPEAKER_00

I mean he could say we can shoot our shot. That's how I've gotten a couple people.

SPEAKER_02

I got Zach Anner, I got Tessa Violet, I got I don't know, somebody anybody that I've reached out to about coming on here, no one has said no. I we haven't gotten all of them on because it's just you know a matter of like scheduling and stuff, but I've no one's ever said no. So Neil.

SPEAKER_01

Did you ask John? Did you ask John Rockefeller DeLorean? Is he still he's not still alive, right?

SPEAKER_02

He's been dead since 2005. 2005, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So only I guess we'll have to use a DeLorean to go back and interview him.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we can get him.

SPEAKER_01

So he saw Back to the Future then. That's nice.

SPEAKER_02

He was a big fan of it. It's uh he he liked the you know the cultural relevance it provided.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know that, and that makes me happy. No, uh, that's that's a good so considering we started with school shootings, now I'm feeling a little bit better about with with that little tidbit. I like that.

SPEAKER_02

Does he have children? He has three children. Could we get one of the DeLorean children?

SPEAKER_01

We could maybe do that. Seems plausible. That seems plausible. Can we get one of DeLorean's kids on our mostly DeLorean podcast?

SPEAKER_02

And then get sponsored by DeLorean. Who's running the DeLorean Motor Company right now?

SPEAKER_01

Let's see. I say I I think I think one of John DeLorean's kids is more plausible than Neil deGrasse Tyson. So maybe we start there and see how it goes.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't seem like the company is active, I guess. I think they may have just been leasing or uh, you know, like had some kind of agreement with the name.

SPEAKER_01

So they were making a new one, so are they just borrowing the name?

SPEAKER_02

We we I don't know if we can be sponsored by but we can we can pay them to allow us to use the name.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so um we're gonna first have to raise money for that, and then raise money to buy a DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01

Alright. Well, I say we start with uh one of DeLorean's kids. Let's I I'm gonna I'm gonna I've got I've got some some kind of following. I'm gonna use that somehow, and I'm gonna reach out and find out how to contact one of DeLorean's kids, and I'm gonna get them on the podcast. They might be fans of yours. They might there's not an insignificant chance. Or at least one of maybe one of the grandkids at this point. It's probably some grandchildren. Someone in the DeLorean family. That's our I think that's our next plan.

SPEAKER_02

We got it. We got we got this.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, my next plan after this is to get some pizza because we ordered it from Gusto's. Oh, so good. Is it there yet? It's here. Oh, it's been here, and I came on to do this, and now I'm thinking about all I want to do is eat pizza.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01

Uh pizza's like the best. No, I say French fries, favorite food ever. Mike, go. Pizza's uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Pizza's number one pizza's really good. That's just all choice. There's a specific slice of pizza from a shop in my hometown of Medford, New Jersey called Labella. Shout out to them. They make the monster slice, which is about the size of your forearm. And it's it's just I I could eat that every day forever. That's nice.

SPEAKER_00

Rob, besides you could roll that up and read it every day forever.

SPEAKER_01

There you go, yeah. Rob, besides bear liver or whatever Canadian seat, I don't know. Like, what's your favorite food?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, there's moose and there's maple syrup. Maple bacon.

SPEAKER_01

That's that is pretty good.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna I'm about to do some research and see if any of the DeLorean lineage is following Liam or me or you, Rob, and figure out what we're doing.

SPEAKER_01

Well, how we can contact them and get them. That would be the fucking greatest. That would be that for this podcast, that would be the greatest option ever. Anyone in the world, like, no, none of these super no, one of the DeLorean family members, getting them on the podcast would be the greatest thing we could do.

SPEAKER_02

Considering how many negative responses I received for not mentioning the DeLorean in my solo episode, I people have come to expect it more than anything.

SPEAKER_01

More than talks about food. We didn't even talk about like fucking today. We didn't even talk about like, oh, here's nutrition and some no, it was fucking DeLorean's, and I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_00

Go eat some beans. There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Go eat and and and your favorite food. Go eat some beans and your favorite food.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let yourself have your favorite food today. Yeah, we'll get back to education next week. Maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, oh yeah, we I got a plan for next week, someone in which actually we'll talk about things that are like pertinent.

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Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01

And you know what I'm excited about.

SPEAKER_00

In the meantime, everybody go send this episode to uh Neil DeGrasse Tyson. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

What's that? Pizza? No. DeLorean. Eating pizza. The DeLorean family. Yeah, tag your uh if anybody knows anybody connected to the Delore Steve Wynne, you said Steve. If you know him, Steven Wynn Wynn or any of the DeLorean children. Anyone who might be able to get us closer to the prize, uh, reach out.

SPEAKER_03

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00

And if you're PETA, reach out to Mike instead of me.

SPEAKER_02

No