Stop Trying To Be Liked And Start Being Yourself

We start with a dumb question that turns into a real one: what happens when you stop trying to be impressive and just become yourself, fully and loudly? Between the bean jokes, the made-up “wordologist” vocabulary, and a quick detour through conspiracies, our guest Gyrodactyl (Garrett) lays out a simple personal development framework that actually sticks: if something about you bothers you, either change it or learn to love it. That sounds harsh until you realize it is also freeing, because it pulls you out of endless self-hate loops and into action.

From there, the conversation gets honest about self-acceptance in the age of social media filters, “perfect” bodies, and constant comparison. We talk relationships and why the wrong partner can quietly kill your creativity, while the right partner makes you feel safe enough to be weird, playful, and ambitious. That shift from performing to belonging is a mental health upgrade most people underestimate.

Then we go deeper on emotions. We push back on toxic positivity, make room for grief, and argue about sadness versus anger as motivation. What helps when you feel stuck is not a magic quote, it is basics you can control: sunlight, food, water, movement, and human connection, plus dropping rigid expectations and refusing to shame-spiral after you miss a step.

If you like funny chaos with real takeaways on happiness, authenticity, emotional regulation, and relationships, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review with the mantra you want to live by next.

Transcript

Identity, Strength, And Self-Acceptance

SPEAKER_01 0:00

I'm big and I hit people real good. I'm like fucking dope. Like, you know, that's so awesome. I'm I love when people are just, you know, like I am myself. I'm a big dude and I run into other motherfuckers and I knock them over. Am I smart? No, but I don't need to be to do that. I'm like, awesome. I love that for you. You be whoever you are. If you're a brainy scientist, like a Neil deGrasse Tyson, awesome. Or if you're just an empty-headed giant fridge that hits people for sport, that's also awesome. You be whoever you want to be. And I I love that. That's that's my favorite type of person.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

Body goals and trying to be a fridge.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Oh yeah. There's a there's like a Rick and Morty joke about that. And he was like, I throw balls far. He was like, You want good words, data languager. I was like, that's great.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Exactly. That's what I love. I did in my video, I was like, I always put all of this next to anything where I'm like, listen, I tried to like crush the watermelon between my knees because I was like, I was thinking I'd have more leverage. Why? I don't fucking know. And why I said in the video, I was like, I'm not a physicsologist. And people were like, You mean a physicist? And I'm like, I'm not a wordologist. Don't fucking come at me with that shit. I don't know. So I just like to add allogist to you know, whatever it is. He knows beans.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

That's that's the beenologist. Yeah, beanologist.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

I could yeah, that's I mean, I don't even really study. I my mouth studies them when I eat them. That's about it. People ask me like questions about them. Like, I don't know how to make baked beans or any of that shit. I just eat a lot of beans. I'm not even an expert in it, I just eat them a lot.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

You know, language is about comprehension, not cohesion. You know, so if you were to say something enough times, especially with the amount of influence that you have, that could catch on. Like, and eventually three 15 years from now, Miriam Webster picks up.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

That's what I was just gonna say. Like Miriam Webster adds things every year when they've become big enough, right? Like, no matter what it is. Like we're getting crunk or something, like somebody makes some shit up and they're like, oh, crunk means brum brem brem brumm. Like now it's a word. So like if you can't say something and people are understanding what it is. Like, there we go. That's language, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Waiting on Miriam Webster for whether or not it's a Scrabble word. Krunk for 12 points.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

It's got two K's, right? Is that how you spell Krunk? So I think

Wordologists And How New Words Spread

SPEAKER_01 2:10

so.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

I think it's C-R-U-A-S-C-C-C-C-1. I will consult Lil John and see what he says.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Oh, I'm thinking of Krunk from Emperor's New Groove.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

I'm thinking of the character.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

That's Krunk.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

Krunk. Krunk. Krunk? It used to be a health and fitness podcast. Fucking why why are we? We've taught everyone everything they need to know. We're done with that. They already know it. We're done. We've moved on.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Now we talk about whatever. And penis jokes. Whatever. Beans.

unknown 2:39

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Always beans.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Whatever we feel like. Beans and clowns. This is our podcast. We do whatever we want. Alright, so how do you all feel about World War II?

SPEAKER_00 2:49

I feel that the movies about glorifying America's role in World War II.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

I'm okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Don't mind me.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Okay. Like it would be nice if it didn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

You

World War II And Toxic Positivity

SPEAKER_03 3:04

know, that's I think my official stance on that. I don't know if that's controversial, but I um yeah. About as neutral as he can be, really. Yeah. Yeah. But the game was bad. See, there we go. Just preparing for the hate messages. We're going, well, actually, World War II led to the invention of the bullpoint pen. Like, I don't care. It probably shouldn't happen. It's always something like that. There's always got to be some contrarian. Something. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Something else could have led to that invention eventually.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Fun fact. So I wrote a guide of happiness back in 2014. And well, uh, one thing was like, look for the positivity and everything. It sounds kind of cliche, corny. I don't give a shit. Um, and it would be like, what do you think about World War II? I mean, are there positives of it? I'm sure. Um, hard to think of off the top of your head. Lots of bad shit, though. Like, more so that. So um my my frame keeps focus, my my brain keeps focusing on the bad shit. I the ballpoint pen, yeah. The invention of the ballpoint pen. That was that's a that's a big turning point for World War II. I don't know where you'd be without it.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Millions of necessity unnecessary deaths. There's really there's always two sides.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Scale is pretty tipped on that one.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Scale is broken and it's fallen off, but you know, absolutely. It's still that one.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Okay, so did did World War II actually lead to the invention of the ballpoint pen, or did you just pull that out of your ass, Mike?

SPEAKER_03 4:16

I think you did. I thought you were about to say, did World War II actually happen at the end of the day. That's where I thought that was cool, too. I thought this when you were going out at a hole. Like, I don't know, Canada took that standard.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

I could have made a uh like moon landing didn't happen type joke, but I'm like, no, no, let's not become a Holocaust.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

We've talked about this before, but what is your favorite conspiracy? Is it like moon landing didn't happen, Earth is flat, you know, like all of those things.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

I'd I I've gotta say the flat earthers just tickled me in a way because it's there's no point. They don't gain anything.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Well, this ra it's flat, so I mean there's not really

Conspiracies, Flat Earth, And Curiosity

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Is there a point when it's flat? I mean, there's definitely no point in the other.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

And if it was, if it's round or if it's flat, what how does that affect anything at all?

SPEAKER_01 4:59

You'd have to ask them. I don't have an answer. I'm sure there's things. I'm sure if there if we did accept the fact that Earth is flat, there'd be changes. I have no idea what those would be.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Most conspiracies are like we need to get ahead of this shadow government that's trying to do some evil stuff. With the flat earthers, it's just like earth flat, earth not round, earth flat. Okay. Ooga booga.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Well next week for a guest, you know, we'll get a flat earther and then we'll see. We'll ask them what, like, if it let we're not gonna debate them. We're just gonna tell you, okay, so the earth is flat, what happens now? And then we're gonna listen to them because we want to hear all sides. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 5:37

You know what? I like that six minutes into this podcast. We have not introduced this week's guests.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

So I was thinking my favorite conspiracy theory is like the pyramids and they're like, you know, what they're power plants. That's my favorite. I like that one a lot.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

I I actually don't know the pyramids. I have no segue into these. Yeah, I was wondering.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

I know Gyridact.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

I don't know what his actual names are.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

Real name is Garrett, so that's just kind of easy to remember. It'd be weird to like make up something completely different, but yeah. Garrett or Garrett, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

I was expecting like a Nathan or like Steve.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Like Nathan. No,

Guest Intro Plus Watermelons And Taxes

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Nathan sucks.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

I don't know about Nathan.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

If your name wasn't your name, what name would you pick? Honestly, Tony. I don't know why. Tony.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yeah, Tony.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Would you become a mob must or like do you just Tony Dactyl has a, you know. Oh, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 6:32

That's that kind of sounds good. I'm not gonna lie. God damn it. Don't make it a thing because I'm gonna have to do it. So I don't know. This whole Gary Dactactyl name, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Hi, my name's Gary Dactyl. What's up? Thanks for having me. Um, psychology expert of sorts, um, proclaimed, not self-proclaimed, proclaimed king of positivity, which I don't know. It's it's kind of cuck holds you. I don't know how to explain that. Where if I say something and I'm like, hey, your opinion's fucking stupid. Sorry, I don't know how much we cuss here. Um, people are like, okay, queen of positivity. It's like, dog, like that just because if you're wrong, I'm gonna tell you. I'm not always nice. That's not the same thing. So um, it does kind of put you in a weird box. So I don't know who I am. There's parts of who I am, and it doesn't, it doesn't control me, you know? Like Liam, he's not all learning.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

You'll fit right in here with that. Like, none of us are like, oh, we got this figured. We have we didn't even have this podcast figured out, let alone our life.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yeah, Liam's just like, I'm the bean guy, I talk about health shit. That's it. I'm not always nice, I'm not always mean, fuck off.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Oh, yeah. People ask me, like, what so what do you do? And like for your content, like you gotta have to watch. I don't know, man. It's shit. Can't explain it. I just I squashed a watermelon today between my thighs. So that's yeah, there you go. That should explain that. Now you're good.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

For for for a good cause, though, right? Like the fact that you have to explain that to the IRS at some point next year. The watermelon that a watermelon as a business expense has been sacrificed.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Like, I people tell me like you gotta like use your biggest business expense for food, but like it's such a pain in the ass because then I need my food. I got my food food, and then my food food's different than the the social food. So, like, I can get like two cards and two carts and like separate the orders. That sounds I don't want to do that. That sounds like work.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Definitely could be the same card because I've learned a lot about taxes lately. Can be the same card, but you just gotta write it all separately. Two different transactions seems the best way to do it, two different receipts in case they start knocking down your door or whatever. Keeping that separate, yeah. Um, in order to write that shit off, especially if it's here's our special guest, watermelon. It's dead now. So you like used it for the content.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

With the cards, then it's all listed out like the end of the year, right? But like if you have one card, then you gotta go in and be like, all right, this one's mine, this one's this, this one's and back and forth. And it sounds like oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

You want to do it? Here's our guest, psychologist Tony Dactyl, about to tell you about taxes.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

You said it was like there was a lack of structure, and I just kind of rolled with it. So, yeah, it sounds good. Tony Dactyl. If that becomes my real name, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

All right. Um ever had.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Oh, hell no. There's no fucking way. We've been 10 minutes in, and it's been nothing but dick jokes. At least, I mean, come on, we're actually doing pretty good right now.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

I was gonna say cocked and loaded with the dick jokes, and then I just stopped myself mid-thought, and I was like, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Don't want to go there. But you said you wrote the guide to happiness. Yes. So, what do we do?

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Just a question.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

I don't know if there was this continuation of that. Yeah, I wrote it. Yeah, that's it. Oh, you want to hear it? Okay, cool, cool, cool. Okay, um, so a lot of them there, it's basically a collection of mantras, and it is a little outdated because my wife likes to bring

Love It Or Change It

SPEAKER_02 9:40

up opinions. She's very, she's very opinionated. Love that for her. Um, she um she was like, Well, how's this make sense? I was like, Okay. Um, one thing is again, here's a bunch of mantras. I'm trying not to get off you know on a tangent. Jesus Christ. Sorry, pause. I don't do this stuff, so hard. One thing was you're fitting her off to thank you so much. God, it's it's I'm just pig swimming and shit right now. It's a shit sour. You have to be a hundred, well, five thousand percent proud of who you are. Doesn't matter what it is. You could have a ginormous fucking nose, and you have two choices essentially. It's like change it or love it. And it's like, well, I don't love it. Well, can you change it? No, then shut up, and you gotta learn to love it. That's that's basically where it stops. Like, those are those two choices.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

I know people were into gigantic noses.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

But there you go. See, that's the part like everybody Hitler found somebody, you can too. I really shouldn't say that. I really fucking dude. I'm not gonna be able to do it. We've already brought up World War II, so you may as well stick with the theme. Sure. And there's a type, everybody, you can find there's anybody, somebody for anybody out there. I'm incredibly nervous.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

Okay, um I have heard Hitler listens to this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Yeah. I bet try not to rejoicing.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Google, help us out.

SPEAKER_03 10:51

He'd be like 102.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

Something. Hey Google, how old would Hitler be if he was still alive? Oh, my my Google thing didn't come up. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

So prepared.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

It was like, yeah, we're not gonna answer that.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

It's gotten to the point where they just hear Hitler and they're like, no, we're not. We're not engaged.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Yeah, no, my grock turtle is just completely shut off. Yeah. Grok chimes in. It's like, uh, you called?

SPEAKER_04 11:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

So, yeah, NSA, Hitler wiki. Let's just start there. So he was born in 89. 1889, so no. Yeah, yeah, 1889, so older millennial. 139? 37, 137, I think. That's 1889. I'm not a mathologist, I don't know. Yeah, you're damn right.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Yeah, it's like 137 years old. Well, continue to tell Hitler some good mantras to go by.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

What advice would you give to Hitler? That's probably a robot. Bring on a guest, and your first question is what advice would you give to Hitler to be happier? This isn't that's not a problematic question at all.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

See, there's two different ways to handle this entire thing. And when I started this, I was like, is this more of an interview thing or just no structure? He's like, No structure. I was like, Great. Then it became an interview, and now we're talking about Hitler. Oh my god. I don't know, just jump off the roof. That's that's pretty good. That's great advice. That's pretty positive. Yeah, that's great advice for him.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

I mean, only him. Yeah, only him. Well, maybe some others, but not you, the listener.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Rob, are you gonna cut this part out? Are you gonna leave us all in? It's just like oh, this is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

I don't think he's ever cut anything out. I really don't think nobody do it. Nobody do it.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

I mean, we're probably not going to be eligible for any advertisements on this, but just have we ever been?

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Has there ever been a time where there's an episode that was eligible for any advertisement?

SPEAKER_00 12:42

You know, surprisingly, we have not had an episode that has not been eligible. So what are we running like Manscaped ads in between this? Dollarshave club Express VPN? I don't know what we're eligible for. I don't look at the ads, but I mean YouTube does among them.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

I mean, we at this point we gotta only be sponsored by like bad dragon or something like that. Can we get a bad dragon sponsorship? That's that's what I would love for this this podcast. Or well, obviously DeLorean, but after that, that's my request.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

What is Bad Dragon?

SPEAKER_01 13:14

Just Google it.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Oh god, yeah. Uh yeah, that's enough. I'm good. First result, I'm good. That's fine. Live reaction to people looking up bad dragon. Ohly here on in moderation.

SPEAKER_04 13:27

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

I'm sorry to anybody else that uh went and looked that up. I'm not. I've seen. I'm glad you're glad you okay. If you don't love it, change it.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

To a different URL.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

That's a good thing. Well, that was such a smooth transition. That's a good one. He's good. If you don't love it, change it. So let's talk about that mentality. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Let's talk. Is there something you would like to talk about specifically?

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Or I just want to hear more about it.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

And how you implement this, how you help people to do it. So, um, one, I don't think you can truly help people unless they want to be helped. Um, because a lot of people have their own ways of thinking, ways they view the world, whether or not something is possible or impossible. You have to get past that first. Pretty much, man. I can't convince a flat earther that it's like be like round picture, look, and they're like, Yeah, I don't care. Be like paper, see, flat. It's like, fuck, you got me. Like, I can't I can't fight past that. If you think it's flat, then fine. Like, but it's pancake. It looks like pancake on a piece of paper. So I was like, I can't, I can't change your perspective on that. It's I I do see happiness as more of an independent, kind of selfish thing in the regards of you can change yourself. That's what you're in control of, truly. And if other people are like, hey, let's do this together, fantastic. But it's truly, it usually never works that way. Again, if they're open to such things. Um, if you're a therapist, for instance, and somebody pays to hear your opinions, well, they'll probably listen. But if it's free, usually unsolicited advice, people don't really like that. So um that's that's the best advice I have there in the regards of if there's something that bothers you about yourself, you got a big nose, that's you gotta learn to love it. Otherwise, change it. And if you can't change it, well, Kim Kardashian can change it. Maybe not you. Save up some money if that's the way you want to go. But otherwise, like, no, you have to learn to love it. And I'm sure there's other people out there. My wife loves big noses, she loves my big nose, so that's that's how you like coalesce with all that. Find a person who loves you for your big nose specifically, and that's how you win.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Yeah, it's unfortunate that with especially with social media being so prevalent and people portraying perfect bodies and filters and Photoshop and all that crap. Um, we have a lot of people that start to hate things about themselves that don't need to be hated. There are absolutely people out there that love different aspects of how the human body looks. You're saying you're into like amateur stuff? Like that the homegrown sort of stuff, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I don't know how that related to amateur, maybe some like you know, different bosses.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

You know, yeah, I know. It's it's you know, it's uh it's a grab bag, uh like a random little surprise bag at the dollar store of like what you're gonna get. Uh, you don't know, it's not gonna be like full, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars production and just be like people in a camera. So, you know, just homegrown, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yeah, yeah. Don't need that that fairly dragon needs to sponsor this podcast right now.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

No, I mean no, I totally agree. Like, real talk, like I like okay, so my like talking about like relationship, my first relationship was like 10 years. I married my high school sweetheart, didn't really work out, right? So, like the you know, there was things I was like trying to like, you know, change myself to kind of like please her. Like as we were growing, like we were kind of growing separately, right? Because at 16 to 26,

Partners Who Let You Be Weird

SPEAKER_01 16:40

you're much different, right? And then as then we split up, and I when I met April, I was like, oh, this this is the chick right here, because I I could be like as weird as I fucking wanted to be, and it did not matter, and that was awesome. That was like the most freeing things. Oh, yeah. We would go to like a thrift store and they would have like those onesies, and there'd be like a sack onesie where you're a big onesie, and I would just throw it on right in the store and start acting shit out and being weird, and she was just cracking up on the floor laughing, and we're just being totally like absurd together, and like that was the best. That was kind of like the most freeing things was like I can just do this. We covered the floor in like soapy water for just because we wanted to slide across it the entire from the living room to the kitchen. We covered the entire thing and like we put soap down, just enough water to make it, and we were just sliding across it, like in like onesies and shit too, because why not? Like, it was just it was weird. I was like, this is great. That was the best, that was like the most like freeing thing.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

That is chaotic as somebody that you can slide across the floor with, yeah, yeah, with soapy water and onesies and uh goodwill, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

And like she and listen, I want to make this clear like I was not doing like social media at all when she met me. So like I had I didn't have money or anything like that. I hadn't like that. She was just like, Yeah, this dude's weird and I like him. Like, this is great. And then that's what allowed me to be more just like, you know, myself about it. And that's when I started making videos, and I'm making like weird shit. And I was like, hey, I want to break down a bunch of wood in the backyard and build a fake gym that made out of wood with a bunch of tape and rope for a two-second clip in a video. And she's like, Yeah, okay, go right ahead. And there was wood in the basement for months. There was like chip, like little pieces everywhere. And she's like, Yeah, no, that's fine. I wasn't making any money off this at all. And she's just like, Yeah, go right ahead. And the fact that she's just like kind of allowed that, and then that allowed me to like keep doing my thing and over and over, and I figured it out, and that's when eventually things started taking off, and I probably would not have been able to do that if it wasn't for her.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

It's awesome. I think having a good partner that compliments your weirdness. Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's um a lot of people um have their personalities stifled because they choose the wrong partner, and choosing the right partner is probably like one of the most important things in your entire life, truly. And some finding someone who compliments your weirdness and who is as weird, if not weirder, than you. My my wife sends me some crazy ass memes. It generally reminds me, oh yeah, nope, she's in there. Like that's her personality is crazy. And I love it. I love it. Like her sense of humor and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

We bought some, we went to the store. Oh, I'm sorry. You talk. No, no, you got I was just gonna say there was a period of time in which I was actually a stand-up comic. I was making a little bit of money that way. I was traveling all over the place uh doing that. And you know, I I I was having a lot of fun with it. It was the only thing I'd ever wanted to do up to that point, and so to get to do it was incredible. And I was in a relationship at the time that was very stifling. Uh she was very you know overbearing and and controlling and didn't like that I was doing things for myself, and it really zapped my creativity and my drive to do things. And I think one of the reasons that I didn't continue to pursue it was because that spirit was just beaten out of me. So yeah, having a partner that you know compliments that kind of thing and encourages it and cultivates it with you is is really, really important.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

But on the positive, then you got a vasectomy and became famous.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

Well, there was that's a rabbit hole. I'm finally now more famous for other things that that's not the first thing that comes up on Google anymore. Is that a positive?

SPEAKER_02 20:19

The vasectomy is not the first thing that comes up.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

When you type in Mike Pridgin on Google, it's just me, and you don't get the vasectomy stuff until like.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Well, soon soon Liam will be the vasectomy poster child.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Uh maybe. I don't know. I haven't figured out. I maybe I'll post about it. I have no idea. I have no fucking clue what I'm doing. I don't even know what the date is for it. I've got nothing.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

Hey Doc, I'm ready.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

I know I'm like, it's at some point next month. I really don't know. I I have no idea. I the fact that I get anything done is amazing. I I have no calendar, no people keeping track of anything. It's shit just I'm like, oh fuck, that's in five minutes. Okay, let's do it. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

I just did that this morning with the podcast. Exactly. I said, oh shit, one o'clock Liam time. Damn. We operate on Liam time here because the three of us are in different uh time zones. So we just go by Liam standard, and uh which is Eastern, and I still messed it up. Nice.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

I'm lucky that I'm on Liam time, so I don't gotta think much about it. You're good.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

Boston, Massachusetts, um Dayton, uh Ohio area. No, I I I lived in Columbus for 10 years.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Nice, nice. Yeah, with people like Ohio, like that's what's the next one after Eastern? I don't fucking know. Mountain? I lived in North Canada many years ago. Central. Who knows? I don't know. Matter.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

But yeah, I get I used to get a lot of people, a lot younger guys that uh would ask about dating advice and stuff, and they'd always be like, they wouldn't directly say it, but it would essentially be like, What do I have to change about myself in order to get this girl and stuff? And it's always like, Don't don't change yourself. If the girl doesn't like you for who you are, then move on.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

Who you are is gonna come out at some point. Right. You can't keep up the act forever. So uh you know, how long do you want to keep up whatever acting?

SPEAKER_01 22:06

And even if you can, that shit fucking sucks. Like years of being like, Well, no, I can't do this thing because I because of that, and that's that's who I am. That's that's awful. That's not a life worth living, honestly. I would much rather live my life and like be uh what like you'd much rather be sledding across floors on soapy water than yeah. I'd rather do that shit by myself and have fun. I'm just lucky enough I found a weirdo who likes it too.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

And you get paid for it. So he's he's got the blessed life. He is his true authentic self. Absolutely weirdo.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

About as about as good as it possibly could have gone. Absolutely magical. Now I go to my dentist.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

It seems like I saw you in the news because he was his authentic self.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

Yeah, not in spite of because he was his authentic self.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

This shit's I'm I I I wanted to I ended up in like GQ or some shit. I don't know. They I meant something. Yeah, it's weird. Fucking it's wild.

SPEAKER_03 23:03

What a way to find out GQ's still around.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Yeah, they are. They're still kicking. Next up, the onion. That's what I want to be in. Dude, that shouldn't be hard. Something stupid, something making fun of me somehow. I don't know. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Man eats all beans in existence. No more beans. Bean crazy. Taking over.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Like I want to maybe some like you know, like in the Twilight Zone where he finally has all the books, but his glasses smash or somehow, or something like I have all the cans in the world, but I don't have a can opener of beans. Smash it on a rock eventually. Ah, the beans, you know, like that. That would be fucking great. Onion. If you're literally had all the time in the world, I'll send you I'm finding all the time for the beans and I can't get any of them. Um listen, I'll send you whatever you need, onion. Just saying.

SPEAKER_03 23:47

You have a claw machine full of cottage cheese, but no quarters.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Oh no, that would be that's a hell. That's an actual glass. Oh no, what if it's a claw machine? But if there's beans in there, and like obviously you can't get any of the beans because it just won't pick it up. So like every I'm just constantly trying to get one bean, and it's just like it keeps dropping every time. I just want one bean, but I'm surrounded by cottage cheese. Come on, man. It's everywhere around me. And all I want is one bean from this machine. I can't get one.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

But it won't grab hard enough. So it just they keep slipping through the cracks. By the way, anybody listening, if you see a video of a claw machine full of cottage cheese, please tag at the plant slant.

unknown 24:29

Don't do it!

SPEAKER_04 24:31

I've seen him.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

I've seen him.

unknown 24:32

I'm still getting tagged in that.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

I don't know if it's actually gonna be audible in the back, but he's yelling at us, don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Don't do that. Oh, my throat hurts from yelling so loud. Holy shit, I'm glad I got this tea. Fucking that stupid ass cottage. It was thousands. I mean, I my comment had 60,000 likes on it, and people are like, Liam, have you seen this?

SPEAKER_02 24:54

And then you said, uh, if this takes off, I'm so fucked.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Yeah, I said if this takes off, I'm so fucked. And I knew it would, and I got fucked. It was like all I could see in my fucking tags. For days. For days. Oh, that pissed me off.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

You gotta be thankful for the opportunity. That's that's how people know you. They find you. It's like the ball is rolling, you're the cottage cheese guy.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

People ask me, like, yeah, no, they asked me like, what's your handle? I'm like, just Google cottage cheese guy. That's all you gotta do.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Yeah, it actually did work. I did look it up. He Rob told me to do it, and it was like the first example, and I was like full circle.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Yeah, if you look up Bean Guy, you get Mr. Bean first, and then eventually I'm down there. It takes you have to scroll up.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

You're number two on the bean rankings.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Oh, it kind of sucks. It's fine. That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

You'll eventually overtake Mr. Bean. We believe in you.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Yeah, I did like that. Send him a formal email. Mr. Bean was an alien. Can I? What? That's the whole premise of the show is he's an alien trying to pretend to be a human.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

Nope, didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Yeah, I watched that as a kid like so much, and I thought he was just a weird dude. And then later, there's even like a scene in the beginning where he's like dropped down from a spaceship or some shit. I'm like, I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Well, yeah, there's the light beam. I just assumed that that was like a spotlight. No, he's an alien.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Yes, no, he's a fucking alien trying to pretend to be a human. That's why he doesn't talk.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Well, uh, see, like I know the the origin of Mr. Bean because it was he debuted it at um a comedy festival in Montreal, and he specifically asked to be on the French roster. And um, they were like, Well, you don't speak a word of French, and he was like, Yeah, I want to be on the French roster. That sounds like he specifically debuted Mr. Bean because he wanted to make a comedy that trans uh transbounded transcended.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

He debuted it and transcended it.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Transbuted it. Transcended language, and so that's why it was so popular because you know he didn't need language. Bean guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:51

So here, if if you want to scroll on over to YouTube or is there a video component on Spotify?

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Why is Bad Dragon also in this in one of the tabs? I'm just curious. Well, that's that's for later.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

I've got to do something. That's for the sponsorship. We've got we've got I typed in Bean Guy on Google.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Yeah, it's mostly Rowan Atkinson. There's A, see Bean Guy. There is me. Okay, there he is. So it's on the first page.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

About halfway down, we got Liam in a thumbnail. Now, I typed in cottage cheese guy as well on Google, and the results.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Yeah, oh yeah. It's all Liam, Liam, Liam.

SPEAKER_03 27:27

Yeah, it's it's just straight down the list. Um, it's it's all here. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

It's most there's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

The first time I Googled this, the the first question was who is Liam Leighton? Now it's not there. That's great. Let me see if if I refresh it, maybe it'll be there. Yeah, there it is. Who is Liam Leighton?

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Uh oh. Oh yeah, there's me. The Times Union. Hell yeah, let's go. I didn't even know that. Fucking cottage cheese. I'm telling you, yeah, cottage cheese. I mean, hey, it listen, there's worse things. Listen, I made a video recently where all I ate was like corn, beans, and cottage cheese mixed together. That's just what I ate every single day. So being known for beans and cottage cheese, you know, it's kind of it's fitting.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

And on Reddit three weeks ago. So what's the deal with that Liam guy who eats beans and cottage cheese? What's your deal, guy? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

But is Liam in the uh the the what was it, gay uh people that there was that who was that? Where are you going with this? I have no idea where this is going. I searched somebody on on the internet, and one of the results was a gay Reddit thread that was like, yeah, I I have the hots for this guy. Oh looked up Liam and there was nothing. I don't remember who that guest was.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

I have no, I I don't remember, I don't even remember what we talked about last week. Don't ask me, man. I I don't fucking know shit.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

I got nothing.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

I could always try looking up Tony Dactyl.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

If you'd if you'd like. I don't know if I started trending yet. I don't know if it ever will in May. Check if it's taken. I looked up the well, well, funny enough, if you ever look on Discord, if you find me on Discord, you're like, why is your name not Garrettactyl? Because some fucker took it. So if somebody if somebody took Tony Dactyl, that's why. Well, it's funny because it was my name from 2015 onward, and then I did rebrand to Tony Too Wicked, and the Too Wicked part is it's an Aqua Teen joke. That's that's all. Um, and then when I went to change it back, it was like Garrett Actel's taken. I was like, what the fuck? Rookie mistake, and I was like, God damn it, fine. Um, so third option, Tony Dactyl. Still, still might happen. You can check Twitch and stuff, see if that's available.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

So, what other mantras do you have for people?

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Well, going on the last one, I didn't want to interrupt. We went talked about Hitler, World War II, uh, cottage cheese, um, bad dragon, like imagine bad dragons. Um, one of them, especially the one he was going off of, was always be yourself honest and sincere.

Self-Love Without Being Nice

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Basically, um, you have to love yourself first. And even though I never I didn't get a lot of great advice from my parents, my parents were terrified to give advice because they were like, Well, if it's bad, they're gonna be like, Hey, you steered me the wrong way, you sold me some snake oil, and then they thought I would blame them for stuff. So they did actually teach me a lot in not teaching me anything, kind of hilarious. Um, my mom did say you have to love yourself before you can love someone else. And a lot of people were like, Yeah, a lot of people are like, no. And I was like, whatever. I genuinely think you do have to love yourself first. You have to be comfortable with yourself and comfortable being alone in your own head, in your own thoughts, and doing stuff by yourself first. Otherwise, if you're just uncomfortable always, you kind of create that energy in other people. Like me, not super awkward. If anything, I think awkward is simply like apprehension to really just word vomit and throw stuff out. Hitler jokes, World War II, blah, blah, blah. Bad dragon, sex jokes. And the apprehension comes in with, oh, I'm on a podcast being recorded, I don't know what I should be saying. That's where the awkward comes from. And by default, I'm not awkward, but other people can make me awkward pretty easily. And then I try to like push through it. Like I ask people a question, they're like, Yeah, I don't know, kinda. I was like, Can you just give me a straight answer? Yes or no? Like, come on, dude, like stop. Like you're ruining it for both of us. But you do have to learn to love yourself first and be comfortable in yourself to create that comfort for someone else. And when you have two people like uh Liam and his partner, April, I do believe. April. Yeah, that's like a fantastic, like, I don't know, I'd say a paragonal like matchup, which is really great. Not only are you a weirdo, but she's a weirdo and you love each other for it, and it's perfect. It's great. That's that's exactly it. Um, I could not imagine being someone else. Because people have always said before, they're like, oh, like positively, blah, blah, blah. He can't be happy all the time. That's not what I said. Or it'd be like positivity, this and that. And I like call someone out, they're like, see, I told you he wasn't nice. I didn't fucking say that. Like, that's not what that means. And I shouldn't have to explain this shit. So it bothers me to be like, here's this tagline. Well, that doesn't fully cover my whole personality of sorts. If anything, no, I do resonate a lot with Liam because he's like, hey, happy. Hey, fuck you. It's like, all right, see, there you go. Like it's justified, and you can't just put yourself in a little box. Positivity doesn't always completely describe me. No, there's times where I make a lot of like, I don't know, dark jokes or cynical humor, sarcasm. It's it's in my blood. So like I can't just be one thing. But being your honest and sincere self, that's how you learn to love yourself and then find someone who loves you for you. Bingo bingo, that's simple.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Yeah, yeah, it's very noticeable while um like while streaming or while doing gaming with people. If somebody in the group is being down or something, it will drag everything down. It does.

unknown 32:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Being positive all the time.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Absolutely go to relationships as well.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Sounds awful. Like if you're trying to be positive constantly, fuck that. Like, you need to be at this time for I'm like, yeah, I'm really sad. I'm like, yo, yeah, they're taking money away from like poor women and children. I'm fucking sad about that shit. I'm also angry, but I'm sad, and I need to be able to feel that. And exactly. Like, and I'll be I'll be positive at another point, but not right now.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Right. I think you once again need to tell the story of your friend that died and his dad. Who? Liam. Wait.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Oh, that one. Okay. I was like, yeah, I listen, you gotta be a little more specific because like I'm I'm I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

I wanted to give you room to put in the details.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

Yeah, it was that so basically I was working at a restaurant, there was uh uh uh a cook there. He was in his 30s

Grief, Sadness, And Anger As Fuel

SPEAKER_01 33:17

and he passed away uh basically from a staph infection that went undiagnosed. It was incredibly sad. He went to the hospital, they sent him home, and he died there, which was like incredibly sad. So all of us obviously were very sad. And so I was like doing okay until we got to the funeral, and then when I got there, and you know, there's pictures everywhere and all the friends and everything, and I'm just like a mess. I'm like crying like crazy. And so, like, uh you go up to his parents were there and you shake hands with them, and you you know, you wish them well, whatever. And his dad could see that I was crying, and he looked at me and he goes, Man up, basically, man up, stop crying. And I'm like, at first, you know, I felt bad about that because I'm like, Oh, well, he's telling me to stop crying, but like later, I'm like, his son died. Like, his son died, and his friends are sad about that, and he's telling his telling them to basically not be sad about or not to show it, at least, I guess. That seems like a that seems problematic, you know. And I guess that's from the older generation that you know that's fairly common.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

I'm really passionate about this, if I may speak. Um, part of my guide of happiness, it's again, things need updated in the modern world, but um, I was obsessed with the idea of this was around 2011, 2014, onward, that I only needed two emotions. I know this sounds psychotic, but it it has a good point in my head. You only need two emotions in the regard of happy and angry, where sadness overall, useless emotion, let me explain. If somebody dies feeling that empathy, that's different. I would say that's grieving and that's respect, and that's um really soaking up those memories and everything. Having empathy for other humans is very important, and that doesn't take away from the sadness. If anything, if people out in the world are being neglected, like, oh, these children are being starved, I'm sad about that. Certainly sad for that, but I'm more angry for the people that allow that to happen. So I suppose I really filter and put a lot of emphasis on happy and angry, which that that usually fills the cup for me. Um, I remember having a discussion with my wife where she was like, Well, what about if a family member dies? And I was like, that's grieving, that is completely normal. To say, like, man up, like you can't be sad because someone dies, that's some stupid ass shit where you're gonna pay for that in 10 years, where it's gonna be like you're gonna break down. Like all that's gonna hit you all at once if you don't process all that emotion. So um, sadness overall, I'd say, is a useless emotion because we could talk about it, we can go into specifics, but grieving for someone who has died, totally normal. Feeling empathy for people that are going through some very hard times, also normal. Sadness in the regards of like if I'm like, hey, I get sad sometimes, it happens, and I'm like, I don't have any friends. It's like, see, that's where your brain is playing tricks on you, where it's not entirely true. We've moved, so our friends who have been physically close near us, they're not here right now because we moved. Please leave a message after the beep. I hear not here right now, it's where my brain goes. Um, so physically near us, no, we don't have a lot of friends because we've moved so many times. But online friends, I got a bunch, and that's one thing you have to like remind yourself. This is I'm very passionate about this. So um, it's when your brain likes to just ruin your own happiness for you. That is where I think sadness and stuff like that is useless and stupid. And I try not to give it much thought. Like, um, damn, I really miss this. Well, regret is another big thing where um, I don't know. Um if I would have moved certain places sooner, I would have spent more time with family members who unexpectedly died. But it's not like I knew that. I knew I didn't know they were going to die, and then it's like you're like, oh, beating yourself up over it. Regret usually doesn't have much of a place in the world. All it does is drag you back to the past and ruins your future because you're fixating on those bad old things. Like, don't blame yourself for things that you've really had no like control over. So that's another thing that ties into sadness that I think is essentially self-sabotage and useless personally. Blah. I don't I know we're not much for debating here, but if you want to talk, we can talk.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

I mean, well, would you say then that sadness is a more passive emotion that is kind of useless? You're not actively doing anything for yourself, whereas anger it it has more drive to it. Without an angry, you are more likely to go and change something.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

I don't know how people do it, but for me, sadness and shit is very debilitating and it just bugs me. Like all I want to do is lay in bed and sleep when I'm not tired. I hate that shit. That bothers me so much. If I'm happy about something or if I'm angry about something, I want to go for a run, I want to go outside. If I'm sad, my body just shuts down. I don't want to do anything. I don't like that. So, in that regard, definitely, without a doubt, very debilitating, and it just it just shuts your body down. I don't like that. It's not it's not a fuel. Happiness and angry feels like a fuel to push for other things. Be like, oh, I'm pissed off, let's go lift some weights. Fine, there you go. I'm sad, I'm gonna lift. Not usually where people's brains go. Like you're not like, hey, I'm I'm sad, I need to go work out. You're like, all right, let's go. And then like when you're like motivated to go do something, you're already past the sadness, like you're good, or you just start running mindlessly, which is fine. But I usually, whenever you're in deep in, I don't know, depression or something, then no, it's like you're debilitated and you can't really do anything else. Now, um, this is a nice quote. I like it. It's like depression does exist, but if you're not getting enough sunlight, getting enough water, getting enough food, socializing enough, and those things, positive mantras and positive thinking, that stuff, no, you're not giving yourself a chance. It's like you could just throw a plant in a in the garbage. Yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna die. It's not seeing the sun, it's not getting enough water, nutrients, that sort of stuff. Same with you, you gotta go outside. You gotta go talk to people. Even if you're not much of a social person, you might have like a social battery that extends so far. I'm more of an introvert, like whatever people. I I am an extrovert that was raised to be an introvert, and I'm I'm figuring that out. You know, I like people, but certain people, hee hee, and no, you need socialization regardless of where you sit on that spectrum. I think human interaction is very important no matter who you are, truly. And um, yeah, you can't really function without it.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

Yeah, that's what I that's why I started with the streaming, is because that gives me uh social interaction, even out here in the middle of the boonies where everybody I know is apparently over in the US. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Yeah, coming back to I was just looking something up there because there was a class I took. I think I mentioned this on the podcast before, but there was a class I took called Death and the Meaning of Life at the Ohio State University, and there was like a cool concept, and it basically we're talking about the different religions and their uh the the meanings to life in each of those religions, basically. And Buddhism had this idea called Krishna, which is like desires lead to suffering, basically, like in a very broad, but there was there was a lot of like caveats with that. And I remember in the class he gave an example that I was like, this that this this hit me. And it was basically like it's not like all

Want Nothing And Drop Expectations

SPEAKER_01 39:52

desires, there's like certain desires that are very problematic. Basically, the example he gave was like if you go to uh your cafeteria where you always eat, and the cafeteria food is usually kind of eh, it's like it's fine, you eat it. One day you go and it's the best ever. You get the best, it's the best food you've ever had, and you're like, wow, this is amazing. I can't wait to come back tomorrow. Then you come back tomorrow and it's like it always was before that. It's like it's it's fine again, and now you're mad. Now you're upset, now you're sad, now you're whatever, because you're like, it was so good yesterday. Why isn't it like this again? And it's like that sort of desire can be problematic. And I was like, you know, I I I feel I definitely that I resonate with that a little bit, you know. So in my life, it's trying to like, well, you know, hey, this thing didn't work out as well as I'd hoped, but like, you know, getting upset over this isn't really gonna help.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

In my guide, I actually have two mantras that actually stick to that exactly. And I'm very happy about this. I don't get to talk about this shit, it's fun. Um, one is simply want nothing, need nothing. And the other one is uh never hold expectations because they pave the way for negativity. I could phrase things a little better, a little bit more uh graceful, but exactly that. No, I'm I'm not a wordologist. No, exactly. I'm not. I didn't get an English degree, I swear to God. Okay, I had a friend in college, I was gonna make it really fast. She was going for a like a bachelor's degree in English, and she was like, How do you spell business? And I was like, What do you what do you mean? She's like, How do you spell business? I was like, first off, there's Google. Second, how do you not, how don't you know that? And she's like, Well, I mean, there's the spell check. You're right. And also, why are you asking me if they're spell checked? I was like, Oh my, you're going to be an English teacher. You are a wordologist, you should probably know this. But um, regarding that, uh, one, no, definitely be more open to new experiences. This is a silly thing, but I find it, I find it interesting. Um, having expectations in certain regards is very important. It's fun. Where I was in college, I was in class, and I was like, I really want a power rate. Like I just hyper-focused on it, not sponsored, you know, sports drink, unbranded sports drink. It would make me happy. Um, and I was just like, that's all I could focus on to get it. And you you create that expectation in your head, I'm gonna go get this, boom, and then it makes you like 10 times happier, yippee. Overall, though, no, um, life changes all the time. The butterfly effect is so real. It's like this tiny little thing can change this, and then next thing you know, plans for the entire day change. Just try not to let it um like affect you too much. Shame is actually a concept that I haven't woven into the guide, but that's something I've been adding is um if plans change, you have to pivot. Or if you're like, I'm going to the gym Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then you're like, you skip Friday, then you skip Monday. A lot of people would be like, oh, I'm so blah, blah, blah, something negative, I suck.

Shame Spirals And Learning To Pivot

SPEAKER_02 42:29

And then that makes it 10 times harder to continue onward for the cycle you already broke. Just go, just go. Don't think about it, just go. And uh, the more people focus on, oh, I'm so this, I'm so bad, I'm so blah, blah, blah like shaming yourself. No, it's like that's extra difficulty to return to the damn gym. And so it's like you're creating difficulty for yourself just by unknowingly. And same with the like sadness stuff. Like, I try not to think I just go where things aren't the way you planned. Or, I mean, I have a I have a bachelor's degree in psychology. I've never really done anything with it, and that sometimes makes me sad, you know? And or I was in the military. I was in the military for less than a year, and that was 10 years ago, and I'm actually going back to the military. I could look at it and be like, damn, I've wasted 10 years of my life. What the hell am I doing? Because the rank that I'm going in now, I could have done that from the start. Well, I did work at a lot of different places, started my own business, married my wife. We have two children, moved a lot and learned a lot of big things. So I can't really focus on like, damn, I've wasted 10 years of my life. It's a pretty F you to uh my wife and all of the challenges and things we face together, and how we've grown together. So I don't want to do all that. So that's why I have to look at the positive of like, what have I carried with me that'll help my future? And like, are you are you appreciative of what you have now? Yeah. Well then, hell yeah, brother, keep walking. Like, that's all. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

Speaking of the the wasted years aspect, uh there's always that question of like, if you could go back X amount of years, what would you change? Whenever that comes up, I'm always like, Well, if I go back and change something, even if it's something That I absolutely hated that happened, that is going to change who I am as a person today. And I kind of like who I am as a person today.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

I've wanted to always be a therapist and also just be like a no bullshit kind of therapist, but I was afraid of that because I was like, maybe they'll just stop coming back because I think a lot of people like to be coddled and told what they want to hear. And so I'm not gonna have any fucking customers. So um, exactly with that, it'd be like, hey, okay, this you wouldn't be who you are today. Do you like yourself? They'd be like, no, and be like, we gotta fix that first, and then we can go back or whatever. When like then we can discuss other things.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

People ask me if I could go back in time. I say yes, I would use a DeLorean, and that's usually just my response to that. That's it. That would be my means just of transportation. I'd figure it out. Then as long as I get to use that, it doesn't really matter. Oh, guys, I have an idea for this. Sorry. Um, for the when people, when

DeLorean Bits And Comedy Rabbit Holes

SPEAKER_01 44:51

I have my DeLorean and people ask me, so you've seen the movie, which one's funnier? Do I say, oh, you mean back to the past, or you do you mean ahead to the future? Because I want to say the movie title wrong because that will be extra funny, but which one of those is funnier?

SPEAKER_03 45:08

What if you just don't know about the movie? Like, oh, is that featured in a film?

SPEAKER_01 45:13

I think I thought about that. I think that's good too. I could I could try all of these and see how they do, but I think getting the movie title almost right is more maddening. What do you mean? Back to the past.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

What about if it's back to the future, you change back to a headems for back to the past and future? It's a double wrong.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Back to the what I don't even know what you would say there, though. Back to the past what's besides past, previous? So back to the previous.

SPEAKER_03 45:39

You could also go extremely obscure and use one of the working titles that was provided by one of the head executives that was turned away, which is Spaceman from Pluto.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Dude, that's pretty fucking funny.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

If I know like a specific lore, you're gonna piss off people who are really into the movie. Mainly Mikey's plan.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

That's funny. Uh was it Michael J. Fox? He wasn't even the original actor, right? Eric Stoltz. So yeah, be like, oh, the one with Eric Stoltz, and be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like that's like four levels deep.

SPEAKER_03 46:11

I want Eric Stoltz. Yeah, they they filmed like six weeks of the movie with him and then they realized it wasn't working. I didn't be like, I don't like you.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Get rid of it. It's just like with Air.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

And also Men in Black, uh, the dude who played like the Alien Guy, uh, I forget his name. He played uh Private Pile, you know, Full Metal Jacket. Apparently, they they gave him the script, and they're like, and the director was like, Don't ask me any questions about this. And they're like, What do you mean? They're like, Don't ask me any questions. Like, just do it. And they're like, uh, okay. And he started doing it. And then after a bit, they were like, Your performance is terrible, but keep going. And they're like, What do you f I sure? And then he kept doing it, even though he told like his performance was shit, and he said, keep doing exactly what you're doing. And then uh the director was like, He's just bad, he sucks. And then apparently, like 20 years later, they're like, That was one of the best performances ever. I hope the director shoved his fist up his ass with that one. Like, be like, Your performance sucks. Well, actually, it's world renowned, it's really good. You're definitely wrong.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

I remember, like, are you talking about the guy that was like a cockroach or whatever? Yeah, yep. Because I I watched a thing with him, and what he he couldn't figure out what to do, and he went to like a prosthetic shop where they had, you know, like for like people like amputees and whatnot. And he went in, he's like, I'm playing this alien, I don't know what to do. And so he put a bunch of braces on him, like all these different braces, so he couldn't walk right. And then he started walking around. He's like, Oh, this is perfect. Now I look weird as shit. I kind of look like a giant cockroach or whatever inside a human body.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

I don't know how to use my legs.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

Yeah, exactly. So it's just yeah, like that's what he went with. I was like, it looks pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

Be like, you've been a paraplegic for 20 years, you've just now gained like control of your legs. Figure it out. All right, is that insensitive? Is that a dark joke?

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Vincent D'Nafrio. That's his name. He's yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, so that was interesting. Anyway, what are you talking about? Yeah, so anyway, yeah, we'll go with one of those. I'll try different like DeLorean things and I'll see what like people, you know, what resonates with people, and I'll just I'll just kind of uh go with that.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

Ahead to the past was a contender, or the spaceman 3000 or play spaceman from Pluto or something, uh with Eric Stoltz. Be like, yeah, either one of those. Just make it really fucking obscure.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Then be like, that is man from Pluto with Eric Stoltz. You mean the you mean spaceman from Pluto with Eric Stoltz?

SPEAKER_02 48:21

Like, why do you know these very detailed things?

SPEAKER_01 48:23

How do you know things?

SPEAKER_02 48:24

You're not just wrong, you're you're tactically, purposefully beyond like you're impressively wrong.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Like, you're so wrong, you're actually kind of right.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

The Big Bang Theory quote that always sticks with me. It's like, um, you couldn't be more wrong. It's like, more wrong? It's like that's a definitive right or wrong. He's like, oh no, no. He's like, it's wrong to say um a school bus is a station wagon. It's very wrong to say it's a tomato or whatever. And he'd be like, no, that's that's very wrong. Like, that's really off base. You're tactically wrong on purpose. It's impressively bad. I'm very impressed with this.

SPEAKER_01 48:56

Yeah, I think I think it'll it'll go well.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

I just fucked up that quote, right? Something, something suspension bridge. Okay, but you get the point.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

I couldn't watch that show because I I even with like the studio audience and all the laughing, I hate that shit. Don't tell me when to laugh. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

I shit. You didn't tell me when it just happened to you. I don't like that. So I like the awkward funny enough, yeah, because there's no laugh track, it's just fucking awkward silence.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

Yeah, it's just awkward silence. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

I I gotta get into that. I just can't for that specific reason. It's like tactical awkward. And yeah, I swear I started watching it. I worked at Microsoft for like three years. I I started watching it. I watched the second episode, which was like race day, out loud when I was one of the only white dudes there. I was like, oh fuck me. I was like, this is a storm maiden hell. I was like, I can't watch this out loud. Okay, so I was like, all right, so either bring headphones or stop watching it. And I stopped watching it. I gotta go back to it, but it's worth it.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

It is awkward, but it's fucking worth it. It's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

I didn't really notice the whole laugh track shit until I got older. Like, my brain was like, Oh, this is normal. There's people there, this is fine. And then it was like, no, that's a laugh track thing. It was from like the 50s, all these people are dead, and they just put it there from the studio. I was like, oh, damn it, it's kind of killing my fun now.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

I hate that. I even what yeah, I hate that fucking shit. It's the worst. It's the worst.

unknown 50:11

Ow.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Is that what cringe feels like? That that I felt that I genuinely What's the show with the banana stand?

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Like, what's that fucking uh arrested development? Arrested development. Yeah, that when that came along, there was no laugh. I was like, oh, this is my shit. Let's fucking finally got rid of that. There's no studio audience, there's no laugh track, get rid of that shit. I hate it. How I met your mother, can't watch it, same thing. Fuck that. I hate it.

SPEAKER_03 50:37

Fair enough. I'm not smart enough for arrested development. It's it is a very like they it's it's masturbatory. The the the writers were just allowed to do whatever they wanted and they were making each other happy.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

And I think that's why it got like canceled eventually, is because the jokes were just like kind of a lot of them were like either going over people's heads, like it was too inside.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

So like the people who are into it are really, really into it because they get it. It's like performance art.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Yeah. That's but that's a message about that. Yeah, you love it. Like, this is it's great. I love the fucking doctor where he's just like, oh yeah, he's all right. Oh, I said he's uh he lost his left arm. He's all right now. Like I fucking oh, that's the best. I fucking love it. It's so dumb. Jesus. It's like it's a I love shows that are smart, but also really dumb at the same time. I don't know. Like, there's certain shows that really just walk that, like your South Parks, maybe, or even like your early seasons of Rick and Morty. Like that sort of shit. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

Norm McDonald as an entity. He's he's exactly that.

SPEAKER_01 51:43

Yeah, yeah. Norm McDonald. Okay, just as a I was like, wait, as an entity. I was like, is that a show he was on? Norm McDonald as an entity. That'd be a great time. Norm McDonald as the entity. Yeah, I was like, wait, I don't remember that show. But yeah, no, Norm McDonald was great. He was fucking yeah, it was I what is his name?

SPEAKER_02 51:59

Damn it. Um, Norm McDonald. I know him, not that guy. I've heard the name. We just said it's really not that hard to remember. Different guy. Okay, um, I forget his name. Uh early 2000s, long hair, kind of looked kind of a hippie, glasses. He was on that 70s show, and he always made jokes like that. I think that's probably it. Mitch Hedberg. Not Mitch Lucker. Um, Headberg.

SPEAKER_01 52:24

Mitch was he on that 70s show?

SPEAKER_02 52:26

He was on at least one episode. So this is the joke where um he went, um, he made some hot dogs because he was at the place, the hub is what they call it. Ashley Coacher went to go pick up the hot dogs. He was like, I did not lose my legs in Vietnam so I could serve like food to school kids. He's like, he's like, I said I did not lose my leg in Vietnam.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

So that's same same type of joke, yeah. Yeah, so I I love Mitchell. Oh, he was great. He's just like, I like escalators because they can never break down, they only become stairs. So if you just if it breaks down and leave aside, sorry, temporarily stairs. Like it's so stupid, and I fucking love it.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

I used to do drugs, I still do drugs, but I used to do drugs too.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_03 53:08

Oh, he's great.

SPEAKER_02 53:11

Notable works by Mitch Hedberg, Strategic Grill Locations. Is that an is that a recording album? That's a comedy album, Strategic Grill Locations.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

Oh fuck, yeah. No idea.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

No, any alive won't people find you for the next year because you'll be gone.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Oh me? Shit. Um, either Gyrodactyl or Tony Too Wicked. Um, just kind of like toss it back and forth. We'll see. And um is that is that the segue to the end? Are we leaving now?

SPEAKER_01 53:40

Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

We stopped recording 45 minutes. Really? Yeah. Okay, cool. We're just bullshitting, it's fine. At Gyrodactyl

Where To Find Gyrodactyl

SPEAKER_02 53:47

at most things. You'll find it. Unless it's Discord where that fuckface took my name. But besides that, yeah, at Gyaradactyl usually.

SPEAKER_00 53:53

At least on Twitch, which is where I know at least on Twitch.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

Right, right, right. I was actually thinking of like switching some things back around because my original channel, I don't even know what the name is I think it's Gyradactyl 247. I was gonna change that back to Gyradactyl and change the new one to Tony2 Wicked. Just you know, whatever flavor I'm feeling for the week. I really get a Tony Dactactyl, dude. Seems like you guys are pretty supportive of that, so I might have to check it out. But the whole military thing, yeah. I'm gonna be, I'm not gonna be able to stream until I even put up a thing. I was like, I'll be back soon, summer 2027. And my one friend was like, that's not soon, man. And I was like, that's about as soon as I can make it. Shit. Like, I gotta like um basically 2045. Right. Definitely sooner than that. Yeah, I'll get to it when I can.

SPEAKER_03 54:33

It's all relative. Sometime between now and 19 years from now.

unknown 54:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:38

We can expect.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

I'll see you. And um do-do-do. I don't know. There's a lot of other things I've been working on, especially getting the guide of happiness into like a book, because I've actually started like breaking that down and stuff. I actually like writing papers, among other things. Uh, if you do it right and structure it right, if you're like, I'm gonna separate this into chapters, just talk about this for like a couple pages. Okay, I can do that. Hey, write a 500-page book. Yeah, that's a pretty big task. I gotta break that down a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Um just hire a wordologist to go over it before you publish.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

I would just be like, I don't think I borderline want to get AI involved, and I was like, I don't know. I don't want to, I think they're gonna just like mess it up. AI is gonna mess it up. Yeah, people copy. And I was actually thinking of like starting, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

Yeah, and I'm like, no, I'm not a you get get a bookologist to write it for me and I'll say, like, yeah, bookologist.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

His specialty is um, I think you were on like the roof or whatever with the watermelon. I don't even know where you were.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

I don't remember. I don't matter. Sure. The roof, underground, bowl men. That I saw like shingles or something.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

I was like, he's on his roof. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

The earth is next week. We're getting a flat earther. We'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_03 55:37

Can we do that?

SPEAKER_01 55:40

We really like asked one of them. I don't know if I can't talk to you. They want to talk, they love to talk about the earth is flat. I'm sure we can get one of them.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

I don't want to criticize them. I don't want to name call. I just want to know what do they get if they win? Yes. Yeah, what's the goal? That's all I want to know. A dopamine rush, that's about it. Is that it?

SPEAKER_01 56:00

I'm not sure they have a system, though. No, I'm sure they have a whole thing about like a plan. And I want to know that plan first.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

If you're listening, are a flat earther. Send your name in to Mike. Uh no.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Yeah. We promise we're not gonna say you're stupid or anything. We're just gonna go, uh-huh. And then what? And then what about the aliens or whatever? Like, you know, it doesn't matter. We're just gonna go.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

I really want to I've never left the earth, right? Like, I don't know what it looks like. Yeah. I I tend to believe that it's round, but I don't know. Come and convince me.

SPEAKER_02 56:34

Well, when you're playing like Doom, they're basically just little PNG pictures, right? And like you turn and then it like turns your perspective. It could be the same way with the earth. It could be flat, but it keeps turning to like for our perspective. It's like an illusion. We can't see it's made out of paper.

unknown 56:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:48

We don't get all the priests, don't worry. I'm sure they'll teach us. Something, something Delorean.

SPEAKER_00 56:52

Tune in next week when we discuss flat earth, apparently. Bring in a flat earther.

SPEAKER_01 56:57

Or DeLorean. I don't know. Whichever. One of those.

SPEAKER_03 57:01

One of the DeLorean children, Neil deGrasse Tyson, or a Flat Earther.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

It's basically all the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 57:07

Walk into a bar.